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Monsanto Going to Trial for Crimes Against Humanity

marrdogg

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Von, that was my moms name funny. But anyways dude I get bored easily and you bore me. You keep talking sources but and disputing everyone like you KNOW the answers. Not one mention of your "sources" mentioned in any of your posts we all have to get our info from somewhere. But please stop trying to dissect everyones posts and post the sources you hold so dear. You cannot come here saying everyone else gets false info and by some strange means you "Von" has the ultimate means to the truth without backing up anything you say. You haven't given substantial evidence to prove anything you've said either.
Let's not be like politicians in a bullshit debate slinging a bunch of untruths lets post sources and research those sources starting with yours.

PEACE!
 

VonBudí

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Not one mention of your "sources" mentioned in any of your posts


:dunno:

You keep talking sources but and disputing everyone

why dont people say what their issues are with monsanto/gmos rather than attacking krunch.

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MJPassion

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are you fucking kidding me!!! you still havent read the article??? stop wasting peoples time and educate yourself. jesus. spoiler - theres no trial.



so that was the intention:laughing:



how thick is your cotton wrapping?





this strikes you as a moderate site? no motherjones,globalresearch, isistoday, infowars lol?


if you steal, there are consequences, why is this so hard to understand?




hows that famine working out for you? did you have to bring a wheelbarrow full of cash to the supermarket last time?





another myth (hint its rt),reaons given by krunch but mainly government policy and plummeting cotton prices* let to suicides which are heavily,exaggerated.
*http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/commoditysummary/symbol-COTTON.cms



i didnt realize i had to spoon feed you, reputable sources please :huggg:. page 5 and you still havent strung an argument together, yikes




again that common problem in this thread.



its so sad to be a on a site whos members prides them selves on seeing through drug war propaganda yet you all lap up anti monsanto/gmo propaganda unquestionable and spread it with out thinking.

The link provided doesn't say much from my point of view.
Could you please point out & possibly explain what it shows?
Is it the buy/sell items that is being referenced?

Also... those Indians allowed their goats to forage on the harvested cotton fields after harvest. After using the new bt cotton seed & harvesting then allowing the goats to feed as in the past... goats ended up dead... all of them.
How is that explained?
 

iTarzan

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Go old school and return to your roots Von Bundi. Communicate via limericks.

There once was a troll named Von Bundi
He typed posts wearing shit stained undies.
He thought he was right just wanted to fight
But his mom came home and turned out the basement light!
 

Wendull C.

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People are posting green peace as a reputable source? I have hunted my whole life and have had the pleasure of pointing out where green peace not is just full of shit but specifically lies to people about hunters and what we do, among other things.

Green peace is full of shit.
 

Skunky McNugget

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Monsanto, NONE of you have the slightest clue what they do OR what they are about, you just hear they are bad and follow like sheeple...

Without Google NONE of you people can tell me WHY Monsanto is "evil"....

Dont even get started on GMO's! EVERYONE ONE OF YOU eat GMO foods without realizing it. You ingest meat that is raised on GMO food...

Shills...
Wow, I thought pot made you mellow. What an ass or asssheeple. Go have a big bowl of GMO Loops. :kissass: Krunchy bubble head
 

Genghis Kush

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1. GMOs increase herbicide use.
Most GM crops are engineered to be “herbicide tolerant”―they deadly weed killer. Monsanto, for example, sells Roundup Ready crops, designed to survive applications of their Roundup herbicide.

Between 1996 and 2008, US farmers sprayed an extra 383 million pounds of herbicide on GMOs. Overuse of Roundup results in “superweeds,” resistant to the herbicide. This is causing farmers to use even more toxic herbicides every year. Not only does this create environmental harm, GM foods contain higher residues of toxic herbicides. Roundup, for example, is linked with sterility, hormone disruption, birth defects, and cancer.

2. GMOs harm the environment.
GM crops and their associated herbicides can harm birds, insects, amphibians, marine ecosystems, and soil organisms. They reduce bio-diversity, pollute water resources, and are unsustainable. For example, GM crops are eliminating habitat for monarch butterflies, whose populations are down 50% in the US. Roundup herbicide has been shown to cause birth defects in amphibians, embryonic deaths and endocrine disruptions, and organ damage in animals even at very low doses. GM canola has been found growing wild in North Dakota and California, threatening to pass on its herbicide tolerant genes on to weeds.

3. GMOs do not increase yields, and work against feeding a hungry world.
Whereas sustainable non-GMO agricultural methods used in developing countries have conclusively resulted in yield increases of 79% and higher, GMOs do not, on average, increase yields at all. This was evident in the Union of Concerned Scientists’ 2009 report Failure to Yield―the definitive study to date on GM crops and yield.

The International Assessment of Agricultural Knowledge, Science and Technology for Development (IAASTD) report, authored by more than 400 scientists and backed by 58 governments, stated that GM crop yields were “highly variable” and in some cases, “yields declined.” The report noted, “Assessment of the technology lags behind its development, information is anecdotal and contradictory, and uncertainty about possible benefits and damage is unavoidable.” They determined that the current GMOs have nothing to offer the goals of reducing hunger and poverty, improving nutrition, health and rural livelihoods, and facilitating social and environmental sustainability.
On the contrary, GMOs divert money and resources that would otherwise be spent on more safe, reliable, and appropriate technologies.

4. Genetic engineering creates potentially dangerous side effects.
By mixing genes from totally unrelated species, genetic engineering unleashes a host of unpredictable side effects. Moreover, irrespective of the type of genes that are inserted, the very process of creating a GM plant can result in massive collateral damage that produces new toxins, allergens, carcinogens, and nutritional deficiencies

5. Government oversight is dangerously lax.
Most of the health and environmental risks of GMOs are ignored by governments’ superficial regulations and safety assessments. The reason for this tragedy is largely political. The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), for example, doesn’t require a single safety study, does not mandate labeling of GMOs, and allows companies to put their GM foods onto the market without even notifying the agency. Their justification was the claim that they had no information showing that GM foods were substantially different. But this was a lie. Secret agency memos made public by a lawsuit show that the overwhelming consensus even among the FDA’s own scientists was that GMOs can create unpredictable, hard-to-detect side effects. They urged long-term safety studies. But the White House had instructed the FDA to promote biotechnology, and the agency official in charge of policy was Michael Taylor, Monsanto’s former attorney, later their vice president. He’s now the US Food Safety Czar.
 

lawlrus

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Monsanto, NONE of you have the slightest clue what they do OR what they are about, you just hear they are bad and follow like sheeple...

Without Google NONE of you people can tell me WHY Monsanto is "evil"....

Dont even get started on GMO's! EVERYONE ONE OF YOU eat GMO foods without realizing it. You ingest meat that is raised on GMO food...

Shills...

I made it halfway down the first page and almost had an aneurysm before I finally saw your voice of reason...thanks for this post
 

Genghis Kush

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nothing that I eat is GMO.

its poison


"without google"
what a stupid statement. That's like saying if you didn't read than you wouldnt know anything..


its called educating yourself. you may want to try it
 

snake11

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krunchbubble and Von bundi. This just might be the worst attempt at a debate I have seen. I have no problem with opposing viewpoints but make some points that are supported by facts instead of flinging insults and getting mad when people use google to find their info. Wow.
 

krunchbubble

Dear Haters, I Have So Much More For You To Be Mad
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1. GMOs increase herbicide use.
Most GM crops are engineered to be “herbicide tolerant”―they deadly weed killer. Monsanto, for example, sells Roundup Ready crops, designed to survive applications of their Roundup herbicide.

Between 1996 and 2008, US farmers sprayed an extra 383 million pounds of herbicide on GMOs. Overuse of Roundup results in “superweeds,” resistant to the herbicide. This is causing farmers to use even more toxic herbicides every year. Not only does this create environmental harm, GM foods contain higher residues of toxic herbicides. Roundup, for example, is linked with sterility, hormone disruption, birth defects, and cancer.

2. GMOs harm the environment.
GM crops and their associated herbicides can harm birds, insects, amphibians, marine ecosystems, and soil organisms. They reduce bio-diversity, pollute water resources, and are unsustainable. For example, GM crops are eliminating habitat for monarch butterflies, whose populations are down 50% in the US. Roundup herbicide has been shown to cause birth defects in amphibians, embryonic deaths and endocrine disruptions, and organ damage in animals even at very low doses. GM canola has been found growing wild in North Dakota and California, threatening to pass on its herbicide tolerant genes on to weeds.

3. GMOs do not increase yields, and work against feeding a hungry world.
Whereas sustainable non-GMO agricultural methods used in developing countries have conclusively resulted in yield increases of 79% and higher, GMOs do not, on average, increase yields at all. This was evident in the Union of Concerned Scientists’ 2009 report Failure to Yield―the definitive study to date on GM crops and yield.

The International Assessment of Agricultural Knowledge, Science and Technology for Development (IAASTD) report, authored by more than 400 scientists and backed by 58 governments, stated that GM crop yields were “highly variable” and in some cases, “yields declined.” The report noted, “Assessment of the technology lags behind its development, information is anecdotal and contradictory, and uncertainty about possible benefits and damage is unavoidable.” They determined that the current GMOs have nothing to offer the goals of reducing hunger and poverty, improving nutrition, health and rural livelihoods, and facilitating social and environmental sustainability.
On the contrary, GMOs divert money and resources that would otherwise be spent on more safe, reliable, and appropriate technologies.

4. Genetic engineering creates potentially dangerous side effects.
By mixing genes from totally unrelated species, genetic engineering unleashes a host of unpredictable side effects. Moreover, irrespective of the type of genes that are inserted, the very process of creating a GM plant can result in massive collateral damage that produces new toxins, allergens, carcinogens, and nutritional deficiencies

5. Government oversight is dangerously lax.
Most of the health and environmental risks of GMOs are ignored by governments’ superficial regulations and safety assessments. The reason for this tragedy is largely political. The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), for example, doesn’t require a single safety study, does not mandate labeling of GMOs, and allows companies to put their GM foods onto the market without even notifying the agency. Their justification was the claim that they had no information showing that GM foods were substantially different. But this was a lie. Secret agency memos made public by a lawsuit show that the overwhelming consensus even among the FDA’s own scientists was that GMOs can create unpredictable, hard-to-detect side effects. They urged long-term safety studies. But the White House had instructed the FDA to promote biotechnology, and the agency official in charge of policy was Michael Taylor, Monsanto’s former attorney, later their vice president. He’s now the US Food Safety Czar.

And where source did this come from? Quotations around other peoples' words...

nothing that I eat is GMO.

its poison


"without google"
what a stupid statement. That's like saying if you didn't read than you wouldnt know anything..


its called educating yourself. you may want to try it

You took that wrong. What im saying is most sheeple automatically think that GMO's are bad, along with Monasanto without any kind of education on the subject...

Im asking to explain WHY are they wrong, without using Google. You know, like how you used Google for your last post...
 

krunchbubble

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Veteran
1. GMOs increase herbicide use.
Most GM crops are engineered to be “herbicide tolerant”―they deadly weed killer. Monsanto, for example, sells Roundup Ready crops, designed to survive applications of their Roundup herbicide.

Between 1996 and 2008, US farmers sprayed an extra 383 million pounds of herbicide on GMOs. Overuse of Roundup results in “superweeds,” resistant to the herbicide. This is causing farmers to use even more toxic herbicides every year. Not only does this create environmental harm, GM foods contain higher residues of toxic herbicides. Roundup, for example, is linked with sterility, hormone disruption, birth defects, and cancer.

2. GMOs harm the environment.
GM crops and their associated herbicides can harm birds, insects, amphibians, marine ecosystems, and soil organisms. They reduce bio-diversity, pollute water resources, and are unsustainable. For example, GM crops are eliminating habitat for monarch butterflies, whose populations are down 50% in the US. Roundup herbicide has been shown to cause birth defects in amphibians, embryonic deaths and endocrine disruptions, and organ damage in animals even at very low doses. GM canola has been found growing wild in North Dakota and California, threatening to pass on its herbicide tolerant genes on to weeds.

3. GMOs do not increase yields, and work against feeding a hungry world.
Whereas sustainable non-GMO agricultural methods used in developing countries have conclusively resulted in yield increases of 79% and higher, GMOs do not, on average, increase yields at all. This was evident in the Union of Concerned Scientists’ 2009 report Failure to Yield―the definitive study to date on GM crops and yield.

The International Assessment of Agricultural Knowledge, Science and Technology for Development (IAASTD) report, authored by more than 400 scientists and backed by 58 governments, stated that GM crop yields were “highly variable” and in some cases, “yields declined.” The report noted, “Assessment of the technology lags behind its development, information is anecdotal and contradictory, and uncertainty about possible benefits and damage is unavoidable.” They determined that the current GMOs have nothing to offer the goals of reducing hunger and poverty, improving nutrition, health and rural livelihoods, and facilitating social and environmental sustainability.
On the contrary, GMOs divert money and resources that would otherwise be spent on more safe, reliable, and appropriate technologies.

4. Genetic engineering creates potentially dangerous side effects.
By mixing genes from totally unrelated species, genetic engineering unleashes a host of unpredictable side effects. Moreover, irrespective of the type of genes that are inserted, the very process of creating a GM plant can result in massive collateral damage that produces new toxins, allergens, carcinogens, and nutritional deficiencies

5. Government oversight is dangerously lax.
Most of the health and environmental risks of GMOs are ignored by governments’ superficial regulations and safety assessments. The reason for this tragedy is largely political. The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), for example, doesn’t require a single safety study, does not mandate labeling of GMOs, and allows companies to put their GM foods onto the market without even notifying the agency. Their justification was the claim that they had no information showing that GM foods were substantially different. But this was a lie. Secret agency memos made public by a lawsuit show that the overwhelming consensus even among the FDA’s own scientists was that GMOs can create unpredictable, hard-to-detect side effects. They urged long-term safety studies. But the White House had instructed the FDA to promote biotechnology, and the agency official in charge of policy was Michael Taylor, Monsanto’s former attorney, later their vice president. He’s now the US Food Safety Czar.



Oh, found some of what you posted. FIRST post I found using Google, which makes you THAT person I was talking about, how ironic. Maybe post some info from a more RELIABLE source? http://responsibletechnology.org/gmo-education/10-reasons-to-avoid-gmos/

A non-biased study of some sort maybe?
 

krunchbubble

Dear Haters, I Have So Much More For You To Be Mad
Veteran
Some GMO tomatoes for your viewing pleasure...

Considered the most tasty and stinky tomato varieties in the world, Garden Gem and Garden Treasure. Gas chromatography was used to select the desired flavors and scents of the tomato...

Not available for public sale, you have to donate money to the University of Florida Horticulture department to acquire these...

these are about 2 weeks old from seed, ready to be transplanted outdoors...

 

Genghis Kush

Active member
I explained why they are harmful. It is because of the herbicides associated with them.



"GMOs increase herbicide use.
Most GM crops are engineered to be “herbicide tolerant”―they deadly weed killer. Monsanto, for example, sells Roundup Ready crops, designed to survive applications of their Roundup herbicide.

Between 1996 and 2008, US farmers sprayed an extra 383 million pounds of herbicide on GMOs. Overuse of Roundup results in “superweeds,” resistant to the herbicide. This is causing farmers to use even more toxic herbicides every year. Not only does this create environmental harm, GM foods contain higher residues of toxic herbicides. Roundup, for example, is linked with sterility, hormone disruption, birth defects, and cancer.

2. GMOs harm the environment.
GM crops and their associated herbicides can harm birds, insects, amphibians, marine ecosystems, and soil organisms. They reduce bio-diversity, pollute water resources, and are unsustainable. For example, GM crops are eliminating habitat for monarch butterflies, whose populations are down 50% in the US. Roundup herbicide has been shown to cause birth defects in amphibians, embryonic deaths and endocrine disruptions, and organ damage in animals even at very low doses. GM canola has been found growing wild in North Dakota and California, threatening to pass on its herbicide tolerant genes on to weeds."


All information comes from somewhere. Google is no less credible than a library.
Critical thinking skills are always necessary .

The point you are trying to make is moronic.
 
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