NASA-Funded Research Discovers Life Built With Toxic Chemical

[BrainSellz]

What do you want them to do? So find another source of money to be angry at.

use there brilliant minds to figure things out on the planet to make life better.....bro people dont have ways to get water....nasa made a way to the moon....they can make a way for folks to get water, m2.
Not lookin for anything to be angry at hence you are talking to me

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

What is Nasa here to do?

NASA's mission is to pioneer the future in space exploration, scientific discovery and aeronautics research.

To do that, thousands of people have been working around the world -- and off of it -- for 50 years, trying to answer some basic questions. What's out there in space? How do we get there? What will we find? What can we learn there, or learn just by trying to get there, that will make life better here on Earth?

A Little History

President Dwight D. Eisenhower established the National Aeronautics and Space Administration in 1958, partially in response to the Soviet Union's launch of the first artificial satellite the previous year. NASA grew out of the National Advisory Committee on Aeronautics (NACA), which had been researching flight technology for more than 40 years.

President John F. Kennedy focused NASA and the nation on sending astronauts to the moon by the end of the 1960s. Through the Mercury and Gemini projects, NASA developed the technology and skills it needed for the journey. On July 20, 1969, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin became the first of 12 men to walk on the moon, meeting Kennedy's challenge.

Meanwhile, NASA was continuing the aeronautics research pioneered by NACA. It also conducted purely scientific research and worked on developing applications for space technology, combining both pursuits in developing the first weather and communications satellites.

After Apollo, NASA focused on creating a reusable ship to provide regular access to space: the space shuttle. First launched in 1981, the space shuttle has had 120 successful flights. In 2000, the United States and Russia established permanent human presence in space aboard the International Space Station, a multinational project representing the work of 16 nations.

NASA also has continued its scientific research. In 1997, Mars Pathfinder became the first in a fleet of spacecraft that will explore Mars in the next decade, as we try to determine if life ever existed there. The Terra and Aqua satellites are flagships of a different fleet, this one in Earth orbit, designed to help us understand how our home world is changing. NASA's aeronautics teams are focused on improved aircraft travel that is safer and cleaner.

Throughout its history, NASA has conducted or funded research that has led to numerous improvements to life here on Earth.

Organization

NASA Headquarters, in Washington, provides overall guidance and direction to the agency, under the leadership of the Administrator. Ten field centers and a variety of installations conduct the day-to-day work, in laboratories, on air fields, in wind tunnels and in control rooms.

NASA Today

NASA conducts its work in four principal organizations, called mission directorates:

Aeronautics: pioneers and proves new flight technologies that improve our ability to explore and which have practical applications on Earth.

Exploration Systems: creates capabilities for sustainable human and robotic exploration.

Science: explores the Earth, solar system and universe beyond; charts the best route of discovery; and reaps the benefits of Earth and space exploration for society.

Space Operations: provides critical enabling technologies for much of the rest of NASA through the space shuttle, the International Space Station and flight support.

In the early 21st century, NASA's reach spans the universe. Spirit and Opportunity, the Mars Exploration Rovers, are still studying Mars after arriving in 2004. Cassini is in orbit around Saturn. The restored Hubble Space Telescope continues to explore the deepest reaches of the cosmos.

Closer to home, the latest crew of the International Space Station is extending the permanent human presence in space. Earth Science satellites are sending back unprecedented data on Earth's oceans, climate and other features. NASA's aeronautics team is working with other government organizations, universities, and industry to fundamentally improve the air transportation experience and retain our nation's leadership in global aviation.

The Future

NASA is making significant and sustained investments in:
Transformative technology development and demonstrations to pursue new approaches to space exploration, including heavy-lift technologies;
Robotic precursor missions to multiple destinations in the solar system;
U.S. commercial spaceflight capabilities;
Extensions and increased utilization of the International Space Station;
Cross-cutting technology development in a new Space Technology Program;
Climate change research and observations;
NextGen and green aviation; and
Education, including focus on Science, Technology, Engineering and Math (STEM).

 

[Weird]

Again, I don't see what NASA has to do with other world problems really. If you feel that more money needs to be allocated to other problems, there are many more useless government programs that should be downsized before NASA, imo.

Everybody is so cynical all of a sudden. Yeah, so they over-hyped a PR event for the release of the study to the public/peers:

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2010/12/01/science.1197258

What do you want them to do? Pretend they live in a non-capitalist, altruistic society where people can develop good and beneficial projects without having to beg/advertise for money at every turn? They have to beg for their portion like the DEA and Halliburton. At least NASA is in the group of programs we're paying for that don't contribute more to the problems. So find another source of money to be angry at.

IMHO NASA's actions in some part are controlled by private interests that use NASA's scientific gains to get free R&D on our tax dollars

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

IMHO NASA's actions in some part are controlled by private interests that use NASA's scientific gains to get free R&D on our tax dollars

like tang... and scratch resistant lenses.

 

[sac beh]

use there brilliant minds to figure things out on the planet to make life better.....bro people dont have ways to get water....nasa made a way to the moon....they can make a way for folks to get water, m2.
Not lookin for anything to be angry at hence you are talking to me

I hear ya. I can think of a handful of programs and/or agencies together worth trillions of dollars, that we can de-fund and be able to tackle some major water, food and environmental issues. Unfortunately our society still doesn't have the willingness and mental maturity to do it on such a scale. But the last thing I would do is de-fund a science-based program that leads to discoveries and mental breakthroughs that can help get us to that mature point. My opinion...

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

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Below is a "small" sampling of the many other ways that space technology has improved our lives and benefited mankind. It is truly a remarkable list and not nearly complete but I believe you will begin to appreciate the answers to "Why do we go in space" and "What does the space program do for me?" So the next time you hear these questions being asked, you will be able to explain it.

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Computer Technology - NASA Spinoffs

GROUND PROCESSING SCHEDULING SYSTEM - Computer-based scheduling system that uses artificial intelligence to manage thousands of overlapping activities involved in launch preparations of NASA's Space Shuttles. The NASA technology was licensed to a new company which developed commercial applications that provide real-time planning and optimization of manufacturing operations, integrated supply chains, and customer orders.uu

SEMICONDUCTOR CUBING - NASA initiative led to the Memory Short Stack, a three-dimensional semiconductor package in which dozens of integrated circuits are stacked one atop another to form a cube, offering faster computer processing speeds, higher levels of integration, lower power requirements than conventional chip sets, and dramatic reduction in the size and weight of memory-intensive systems, such as medical imaging devices.

STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS - This NASA program, originally created for spacecraft design, has been employed in a broad array of non-aerospace applications, such as the automobile industry, manufacture of machine tools, and hardware designs.

WINDOWS VISUAL NEWS READER (Win Vn) - Software program developed to support payload technical documentation at Kennedy Space Center, allowing the exchange of technical information among a large group of users. WinVn is an enabling technology product that provides countless people with Internet access otherwise beyond their grasp, and it was optimized for organizations that have direct Internet access.

AIR QUALITY MONITOR - Utilizing a NASA-developed, advanced analytical technique software package, an air quality monitor system was created, capable of separating the various gases in bulk smokestack exhaust streams and determining the amount of individual gases present within the stream for compliance with smokestack emission standards.

VIRTUAL REALITY - NASA-developed research allows a user, with assistance from advanced technology devices, to figuratively project oneself into a computer-generated environment, matching the user's head motion, and, when coupled with a stereo viewing device and appropriate software, creates a telepresence experience.

Other spinoffs in this area include: Advanced keyboards, Customer Service Software, Database Management System, Laser Surveying, Aircraft controls, Lightweight Compact Disc, Expert System Software, Microcomputers, and Design Graphics.

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Consumer/Home/Recreation - NASA Spinoffs

ENRICHED BABY FOOD - A microalgae-based, vegetable-like oil called Formulaid developed from NASA-sponsored research on long duration space travel, contains two essential fatty acids found in human milk but not in most baby formulas, believed to be important for infants' mental and visual development.

WATER PURIFICATION SYSTEM - NASA-developed municipal-size water treatment system for developing nations, called the Regenerable Biocide Delivery Unit, uses iodine rather than chlorine to kill bacteria.

SCRATCH-RESISTANT LENSES - A modified version of a dual ion beam bonding process developed by NASA involves coating the lenses with a film of diamond-like carbon that not only provides scratch resistance, but also decreases surface friction, reducing water spots.

POOL PURIFICATION - Space technology designed to sterilize water on long-duration spacecraft applied to swimming pool purification led to a system that uses two silver-copper alloy electrodes that generate silver and copper ions when an electric current passes through them to kill bacteria and algae without chemicals.

RIBBED SWIMSUIT - NASA-developed riblets applied to competition swimsuits resulted in flume testing of 10 to 15 percent faster speeds than any other world class swim-suit due to the small, barely visible grooves that reduce friction and aerodynamic drag by modifying the turbulent airflow next to the skin.

GOLF BALL AERODYNAMICS - A recently designed golf ball, which has 500 dimples arranged in a pattern of 60 spherical triangles, employs NASA aerodynamics technology to create a more symmetrical ball surface, sustaining initial velocity longer and producing a more stable ball flight for better accuracy and distance.

PORTABLE COOLERS/WARMERS - Based on a NASA-inspired space cooling system employing thermoelectric technology, the portable cooler/warmer plugs into the cigarette lighters of autos, recreational vehicles, boats, or motel outlets. Utilizes one or two miniaturized modules delivering the cooling power of a 10-pound block of ice and the heating power of up to 125 degrees Fahrenheit.

SPORTS TRAINING - Space-developed cardio-muscular conditioner helps athletes increase muscular strength and cardiovascular fitness through kinetic exercise.

ATHLETIC SHOES - Moon Boot material encapsulated in running shoe midsoles improve shock absorption and provides superior stability and motion control.

Other spinoffs in this area include: Dustbuster, shock-absorbing helmets, home security systems, smoke detectors, flat panel televisions, high-density batteries, trash compactors, food packaging and freeze-dried technology, cool sportswear, sports bras, hair styling appliances, fogless ski goggles, self-adjusting sunglasses, composite golf clubs, hang gliders, art preservation, and quartz crystal timing equipment.

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Environmental and Resource Management - NASA Spinoffs

MICROSPHERES - The first commercial products manufactured in orbit are tiny microspheres whose precise dimensions permit their use as reference standards for extremely accurate calibration of instruments in research and industrial laboratories. They are sold for applications in environmental control, medical research, and manufacturing.

SOLAR ENERGY - NASA-pioneered photovoltaic power system for spacecraft applications was applied to programs to expand terrestrial applications as a viable alternative energy source in areas where no conventional power source exists.

WEATHER FORECASTING AID - Space Shuttle environmental control technology led to the development of the Barorator which continuously measures the atmospheric pressure and calculates the instantaneous rate of change.

FOREST MANAGEMENT - A NASA-initiated satellite scanning system monitors and maps forestation by detecting radiation reflected and emitted from trees.

SENSORS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL - NASA development of an instrument for use in space life support research led to commercial development of a system to monitor an industrial process stream to assure that the effluent water's pH level is in compliance with environmental regulations.

WIND MONITOR - Development of Jimsphere wind measurement balloon for space launches allows for making high resolution measurements of the wind profile for meteorological studies and predictions.

TELEMETRY SYSTEMS - A spinoff company formed to commercialize NASA high-data-rate telemetry technology, manufactures a high-speed processing system for commercial communications applications.

PLANT RESEARCH - NASA research on future moon and Mars bases is investigating using plants for food, oxygen, and water to reduce the need for outside supplies. This research utilizes Hydroponics (liquid nutrient solutions) instead of soil to support plant growth and finds applications for vegetable production on Earth.

FIRE RESISTANT MATERIAL - Materials include chemically-treated fabric for sheets, uniforms for hazardous material handlers, crew's clothing, furniture, interior walls of submersibles and auto racer and refueler suits.

RADIATION INSULATION - Aluminized polymer film is highly effective radiation barrier for both manned and unmanned spacecraft. Variations of this space-devised material are also used as an energy conservation technique for homes and offices. The materials are placed between wall studs and exterior facing before siding or between roof support and roof sheathing. The radiant barrier blocks 95% of radiant energy. Successful retrofit installations include schools and shrink wrap ovens.

Other spinoffs in this area include: Whale identification method, environmental analysis, noise abatement, pollution measuring devices, pollution control devices, smokestack monitor, radioactive leak detector, earthquake prediction system, sewage treatment, energy saving air conditioning, and air purification.

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Health and Medicine - NASA Spinoffs

DIGITAL IMAGING BREAST BIOPSY SYSTEM - The LORAD Stereo Guide Breast Biopsy system incorporates advanced Charge Coupled Devices (CCDs) as part of a digital camera system. The resulting device images breast tissue more clearly and efficiently. Known as stereotactic large-core needle biopsy, this nonsurgical system developed with Space Telescope Technology is less traumatic and greatly reduces the pain, scarring, radiation exposure, time, and money associated with surgical biopsies.

BREAST CANCER DETECTION - A solar cell sensor is positioned directly beneath x-ray film, and determines exactly when film has received sufficient radiation and has been exposed to optimum density. Associated electronic equipment then sends a signal to cut off the x-ray source. Reduction of mammography x-ray exposure reduces radiation hazard and doubles the number of patient exams per machine.

LASER ANGIOPLASTY - Laser angioplasty with a "cool" type of laser, caller an excimer laser, does not damage blood vessel walls and offers precise non-surgical cleanings of clogged arteries with extraordinary precision and fewer complications than in balloon angioplasty.

ULTRASOUND SKIN DAMAGE ASSESSMENT - Advanced instrument using NASA ultrasound technology enables immediate assessment of burn damage depth, improving patient treatment, and may save lives in serious burn cases.

HUMAN TISSUE STIMULATOR - Employing NASA satellite technology, the device is implanted in the body to help patient control chronic pain and involuntary motion disorders through electrical stimulation of targeted nerve centers or particular areas of the brain.

COOL SUIT - Custom-made suit derived from space suits circulates coolant through tubes to lower patient's body/ temperature, producing dramatic improvement of symptoms of multiple sclerosis, cerebral palsy, spina bifida and other conditions.

PROGRAMMABLE PACEMAKER - Incorporating multiple NASA technologies, the system consists of the implant and a physician's computer console containing the programming and a data printer. Communicates through wireless telemetry signals.

OCULAR SCREENING - NASA image processing techniques are used to detect eye problems in very young children. An electronic flash from a 35-millimeter camera sends light into the child's eyes, and a photorefractor analyzes the retinal reflexes, producing an image of each eye.

AUTOMATED URINALYSIS - NASA fluid dynamics studies helped development of system that automatically extracts and transfers sediment from urine sample to an analyzer microscope, replacing the manual centrifuge method.

MEDICAL GAS ANALYZER - Astronaut-monitoring technology used to develop system to monitor operating rooms for analysis of anesthetic gasses and measurement of oxygen, carbon dioxide, and nitrogen concentrations to assure proper breathing environment for surgery patients.

VOICE-CONTROLLED WHEELCHAIR - NASA teleoperator and robot technology used to develop chair and manipulator that respond to 35 one-word voice commands utilizing a minicomputer to help patient perform daily tasks, like picking up packages, opening doors, and turning on appliances.

Other spinoffs in this area include: Arteriosclerosis detection, ultrasound scanners, automatic insulin pump, portable x-ray device, invisible braces, dental arch wire, palate surgery technology, clean room apparel, implantable heart aid, MRI, bone analyzer, and cataract surgery tools.

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Industrial Productivity/Manufacturing Technology - NASA Spinoffs

MAGNETIC LIQUIDS - Based on the NASA-developed ferrofluid concept involving synthetic fluids that can be positioned and controlled by magnetic force, the ferrofluidic seal was initially applied in a zero-leakage, nonwearing seal for the rotating shaft of a system used to make semiconductor chips, solving a persistent problem‹contamination due to leaking seals.

WELDING SENSOR SYSTEM - Laser-based automated welder for industrial use incorporates a laser sensor system originally designed for Space Shuttle External Tank to track the seam where two pieces of metal are to be joined, measures gaps and minute misfits, and automatically corrects the welding torch distance and height.

MICROLASERS - Based on a concept for optical communications over interplanetary distances, microlasers were developed for the commercial market to transmit communication signals and to drill, cut, or melt materials.

MAGNETIC BEARING SYSTEM - Bearings developed from Space Shuttle designs support moving machinery without physical contact, permitting motion without friction or wear, and are now used in electric power generation, petroleum refining, machine tool operation, and natural gas pipelines.

ENGINE LUBRICANT - A NASA-developed plasma-sprayed coating is used to coat valves in a new, ten-inch-long, four-cylinder rotary engine, eliminating the need for lubricating the rotorcam, which has no crankshaft, flywheel, distributor, or water pump.

INTERACTIVE COMPUTER TRAINING - Known as Interactive Multimedia Training (IMT), originally developed to train astronauts and space operations personnel, now utilized by the commercial sector to train new employees and upgrade worker skills, using a computer system that engages all the senses, including text, video, animation, voice, sounds, and music.

HIGH-PRESSURE WATERSTRIPPING - Technology developed for preparing Space Shuttle solid rocket boosters first evolved into the U.S. Air Force's Large Aircraft Robotic Paint Stripping (LARPS) system, and now used in the commercial airline industry, where the waterjet processing reduces coating removal time by 90 percent, using only water at ultra-high pressures up to 55,000 psi.

ADVANCED WELDING TORCH - Based on the Variable Polarity Plasma Arc welding technology, a handheld torch originally developed for joining light alloys used in NASA's External Tank, is now used by major appliance manufacturers for sheet metal welding.

Other spinoffs in this area include: Gasoline vapor recovery, self-locking fasteners, machine tool software, laser wire stripper, lubricant coating process, wireless communications, engine coatings, and engine design.

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Public Safety - NASA Spinoffs

RADIATION HAZARD DETECTOR - NASA technology has made commercially available new, inexpensive, conveniently carried device for protection of people exposed to potentially dangerous levels of microwave radiation. Weighing only 4 ounces and about the size of a cigarette pack, it can be carried in a shirt pocket or clipped to a belt. Unit sounds an audible alarm when microwave radiation reaches a preset level.

EMERGENCY RESPONSE ROBOT - Remotely-operated robot reduces human injury levels by performing hazardous tasks that would otherwise be handled by humans.

PERSONAL ALARM SYSTEM - Pen-sized ultrasonic transmitter used by prison guards, teachers, the elderly, and disabled to call for help is based on space telemetry technology. Pen transmits a silent signal to receiver that will display the exact location of the emergency.

EMERGENCY RESCUE CUTTERS - Lightweight cutters for freeing accident victims from wreckage developed using NASA pyrotechnic technology.

FIREMAN'S AIR TANKS - Lighter-weight firefighter's air tanks have been developed. New back-pack system weighs only 20 lbs. for 30 minute air supply, 13 lbs. less than conventional firefighting tanks. They are pressurized at 4,500 psia (twice current tanks). A warning device tells the fireman when he or she is running out of air.

PERSONAL STORM WARNING SYSTEM - Lightning detector gives 30-minute warning to golfers, boaters, homeowners, business owners, and private pilots.

SELF-RIGHTING LIFE RAFT - Developed for the Apollo program, fully inflates in 12 seconds and protects lives during extremely adverse weather conditions with self-righting and gravity compensation features.

Other spinoffs in this area include: Storm warning services (Doppler radar), firefighters' radios, lead poison detection, fire detector, flame detector, corrosion protection coating, protective clothing, and robotic hands.

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Transportation - NASA Spinoffs

STUDLESS WINTER TIRES - Viking Lander parachute shroud material is adapted and used to manufacture radial tires, increasing the tire material's chainlike molecular structure to five times the strength of steel should increase tread life by 10,000 miles.

BETTER BRAKES - New, high-temperature composite space materials provide for better brake linings. Applications includes trucks, industrial equipment and passenger cars.

TOLLBOOTH PURIFICATION - A laminar airflow technique used in NASA clean rooms for contamination-free assembly of space equipment is used at tollbooths on bridges and turnpikes to decrease the toll collector's inhalation of exhaust fumes.

WEIGHT SAVING TECHNOLOGY - NASA research on composite materials is used to achieve a 30-percent weight reduction in a twin-turbine helicopter, resulting in a substantial increase in aircraft performance.

IMPROVED AIRCRAFT ENGINE - Multiple NASA developed technological advancements resulted in a cleaner, quieter, more economical commercial aircraft engine known as the high bypass turbofan, featuring a 10-percent reduction in fuel consumption, lower noise levels, and emission reductions of oxides of nitrogen, carbon monoxide, and unburned hydrocarbons.

ADVANCED LUBRICANTS - An environmental-friendly lubricant designed to support the Space Shuttle Mobile Launcher Platform led to the development of three commercial lubricants for railroad track maintenance, for electric power company corrosion prevention, and as a hydraulic fluid with an oxidation life of 10,000 hours.

ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM - The Flywheel Energy Storage system, derived from two NASA-sponsored energy storage studies, is a chemical-free, mechanical battery that harnesses the energy of a rapidly spinning wheel and stores it as electricity with 50 times the capacity of a lead-acid battery, very useful for electric vehicles.

NEW WING DESIGN FOR CORPORATE JETS - NASA-developed computer programs resulted in an advanced, lighter, more aerodynamically-efficient new wing for Gulfstream business aircraft.

AIDS TO SCHOOL BUS DESIGN - Manufacturer uses three separate NASA-developed technologies originally developed for aviation and space use in their design and testing of a new school bus chassis. These technologies are a structural analysis computer program infrared stress measurement system, and a ride quality meter system.

Other spinoffs in this area include: Safer bridges, emission testing, airline wheelchairs, electric car, auto design, methane-powered vehicles, windshear prediction, and aircraft design analysis.

 

[BrainSellz]

I hear ya. Unfortunately our society still doesn't have the willingness and mental maturity to do it on such a scale. But the last thing I would do is de-fund a science-based program that leads to discoveries and mental breakthroughs that can help get us to that mature point. My opinion...

word
its too bad cos nasa has the minds to do it....
i respect it

 

[CANNATOPIA]

wow. Very interesting. Good post friend!

 

[mrwags]

Well the next time any of you turn on your DTV and watch it thank NASA.

Space is money just like war and any damn thing else the G-Men get involved in simply to make money for the 5%. If you can find and talk to anyone that works there and can get them to tell you maybe a hint of what they see day in day out I think you might be surprised what you find out.

As far as other life besides us? The universe being as big as it is (that we even know about) I think it to be pretty damn selfish to think it's just us. Spaceships on the caveman's wall I think would be something to make ya go so your saying these guys that had just recently discovered fire and the freakin wheel just all of a sudden out of thin drew a picture of a disc in the sky right next to the sun.?

The news on tv is a joke and we all know that BUT some of you are not thinking outside the box and understanding RIGHT HERE at IC we have a network of folks are over the world and who better to give you the CORRECT information then someone who lives there.?

It is simply up to YOU the member to use this network to your advantage and wade through the bullshit to find the right person to share with.

LIFE WILL ALWAYS FIND A WAY.

It is the correct nature of things for an organism to fight to stay alive and evolve with the times in order to do so. It's just like saying that the possibility of cannabis actually starting from a fish not a plant,but that's another thread all together.

The point is selfishness is what stops folks from looking outside the box and it's damn hard to learn something if you know everything already.

We are all born and we all die what we as human's do in between is all that matters. Some of you need to open the box for a minute and get some fresh air in there.


Have A Great Day
Mr.Wags

 

[CANNATOPIA]

dude, too funny & I love yr Avatar!

dude, too funny & I love yr Avatar!

space shrimp that can survive toxic environments and mine foreign celestial bodies for minerals and have them collected for testing

 

[Honkytonk]

All that funding and all they have to show for is earthbound bacteria?
Where the fuck is my jet-pack?

 

[CANNATOPIA]

All that funding and all they have to show for is earthbound bacteria?
Where the fuck is my jet-pack?

Yeah... WTF! lol

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

All that funding and all they have to show for is earthbound bacteria?

Well... that, and a host of other things too, a few of which I listed in a previous post : https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=4052303&postcount=46

 

[juicepuddle]

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Good info there, however I would like to see what they are working on for the future, this stuff is passed, and from what other people on this forum say this new discovery isnt so new after all.

I never said they did not give us anything, simply referring to the future, yall wanna go look for cookies when you live on cookie mountain go for it

But the last thing I would do is de-fund a science-based program that leads to discoveries and mental breakthroughs that can help get us to that mature point. My opinion...

This makes sense however I do not see how it has brought us to a mature point, in fact I think its going the opposite direction, people seem to be dropping maturity more day by day.

I am simply saying why fund this much into something that wont benefit us as much as checking out the place we have grown into existence on.

Imo if we search hard enough the answer to every illness is out there in this world, I say we focus on that, once we can sustain our life longer then 100 or so years, then focus on exploring the insanely vast universe surrounding us if we havent found all the answers we need.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Good info there, however I would like to see what they are working on for the future, this stuff is passed,

I'd like to be able to see into the future too. That'd be an awesome super power.

and from what other people on this forum say this new discovery isnt so new after all.

People say lots of unverified things. If This is really an old discovery, it should be easy to document as such.

I never said they did not give us anything, simply referring to the future, yall wanna go look for cookies when you live on cookie mountain go for it

There are constantly new useful discoveries and inventions made available through NASA's activities. Their well documented consistent history and current habit of doing so does nothing if not indicate that it will continue into the future.

I fail to grasp the applicability of your confusing cookie analogy. Nobody in the article or discussion was doing anything resembling 'looking for cookies on cookie mountain'.

This makes sense however I do not see how it has brought us to a mature point, in fact I think its going the opposite direction, people seem to be dropping maturity more day by day.

I am simply saying why fund this much into something that wont benefit us as much as checking out the place we have grown into existence on.

Imo if we search hard enough the answer to every illness is out there in this world, I say we focus on that, once we can sustain our life longer then 100 or so years, then focus on exploring the insanely vast universe surrounding us if we havent found all the answers we need.

Why not do both...? Enough benefits have come from and will continue to come from the research into aerospace tech. and space exploration (including in the arena of extending life and increasing health) to easily justify continuing to do so.

Some of the most frequently asked questions about the U.S. space program are "Why go into space when we have so many problems here on Earth?" and "What does the space program do for me?" These are legitimate questions and unfortunately not enough people have been made aware of the vast benefits the space program provides that increase the quality of our daily lives. Applications on Earth of technology needed for space flight have produced thousands of "spinoffs" that contribute to improving national security, the economy, productivity and lifestyle. It is almost impossible to find an area of everyday life that has not been improved by these spinoffs. Collectively, these secondary applications represent a substantial return on the national investment in aerospace research. We should be spending more.

Out of a $2.4 trillion budget, less than 0.8% is spent on the entire space program! That's less than 1 penny for every dollar spent. The average American spends more of their budget on their cable bill, eating out or entertainment than this yet the benefits of space flight are remarkable. It has been conservatively estimated by U.S. space experts that for every dollar the U.S. spends on R and D in the space program, it receives $7 back in the form of corporate and personal income taxes from increased jobs and economic growth. Besides the obvious jobs created in the aerospace industry, thousands more are created by many other companies applying NASA technology in nonspace related areas that affect us daily. One cannot even begin to place a dollar value on the lives saved and improved lifestyles of the less fortunate. Space technology benefits everyone and a rising technological tide does raise all boats.

One small example is the Hubble Space Telescope. Much maligned at first because of its flawed optics, it still produced better photographs than anything here on Earth. Once fixed, it has produced even more startling scientific data which we have only begun to understand and apply. One of the many spinoffs from the Hubble telescope is the use of its Charge Coupled Device (CCD) chips for digital imaging breast biopsies. The resulting device images breast tissue more clearly and efficiently than other existing technologies. The CCD chips are so advanced that they can detect the minute differences between a malignant or benign tumor without the need for a surgical biopsy. This saves the patient weeks of recovery time and the cost for this procedure is hundreds of dollars vs. thousands for a surgical biopsy. With over 500,000 women needing biopsies a year the economic benefit, per year, is tremendous and it greatly reduces the pain, scarring, radiation exposure, time, and money associated with surgical biopsies.

 

[Honkytonk]

Well... that, and a host of other things too, a few of which I listed in a previous post : https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=4052303&postcount=46

I wasn't serious 'bout that. Interesting list, though.
I'm all for more NASA funding, after all, more funding means I get my jet-pack sooner, right?

Have a nice weekend.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

I'm all for more NASA funding, after all, more funding means I get my jet-pack sooner, right?

let's hope so.

 

[sac beh]

Good info there, however I would like to see what they are working on for the future, this stuff is passed, and from what other people on this forum say this new discovery isnt so new after all.

From what I've seen people are confused and using their confusion to justify their anger towards government spending in general, in this case towards NASA.

Yes, they already knew about a microbe that could survive amidst such arsenic levels. But this study was not published before yesterday:

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2010/12/01/science.1197258

We report the discovery of an unusual microbe, strain GFAJ-1, that exceptionally can vary the elemental composition of its basic biomolecules by substituting As for P. How arsenic insinuates itself into the structure of biomolecules is unclear, and the mechanisms by which such molecules operate are unknown.

NASA’s press conference concerns another nearly-alien kind of life on our own planet. NASA has sponsored many expeditions to the toughest places on Earth for life to survive, from glaciers to deserts to acid-drenched mines. One of these expeditions was to Mono Lake, a practically toxic body of water. It’s very salty, very alkaline, and is steeped in arsenic. The “weird life” report singled out arsenic-based life as one topic worth investigating, so Felisa Wolfe-Simon of the NASA Astrobiology Institute and her colleagues isolated a strain of bacteria and brought it back to the lab to study its growth.

Wolfe-Simon and her colleagues reared the bacteria in their lab, initially feeding them a typical diet of essential nutrients, including phosphate. But then they gradually reduced the phosphate in their diet and replaced it with arsenate. Before long, as they report today in Science, the bacteria were growing nicely on an all-arsenate diet, without a speck of phosophate. The scientists then probed the DNA of the bacteria and concluded that they were sticking the arsenate into the DNA in place of phosphate. Phosphate is also vital for other molecules, such as proteins, and the scientists found arsenate in them as well.

You can find some criticisms of the study, its conclusions, and the PR hype here:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/n...-using-arsenic-and-no-this-isnt-about-aliens/
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2010/12/02/of-arsenic-and-aliens/
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/g...(Discover+Magazine)&utm_content=Google+Reader

But that's the great thing about publishing this study, its now public for other scientists to review and improve our understanding on the topic.

 

[Green lung]

I wasn't serious 'bout that. Interesting list, though.
I'm all for more NASA funding, after all, more funding means I get my jet-pack sooner, right?

Have a nice weekend.

Dude they've had jet packs around since the 60's.lol

 

[juicepuddle]

People say lots of unverified things. If This is really an old discovery, it should be easy to document as such.There are constantly new useful discoveries and inventions made available through NASA's activities. Their well documented consistent history and current habit of doing so does nothing if not indicate that it will continue into the future.

I fail to grasp the applicability of your confusing cookie analogy. Nobody in the article or discussion was doing anything resembling 'looking for cookies on cookie mountain'.
Why not do both...? Enough benefits have come from and will continue to come from the research into aerospace tech. and space exploration (including in the arena of extending life and increasing health) to easily justify continuing to do so.

As for people spouting stuff not verified, yeah I know that, and I have said the exact same thing many times, if its actually an old discovery why doesnt anyone stand up and document it, however I do not know the truth,and doubt I could get the evidence to actually prove its an old discovery... no one can rofl, just looking at other opinions, not fully adopting them, just wanted to throw it in there because I dont dismiss it. Chances are they have had the new info for a super long time, just using it for funding.

I'd like to be able to see into the future too. That'd be an awesome super power.

Sorry, cookies represent life they are looking so hard for, when in fact there is undiscovered life right here on earth, you meen you dont see how thats silly?

I would love for them to do both, thats the best way for things to work, but 13 trillion is so fucking crazy rofl, I guess some people will justify it and some wont, I guess only the future will tell what "new discoveries" come from nasa, to bad I dont have that awesome super special super power eh?