outdoor grows in irish climate?

[Cookie monster]

Hiya grim,

I tryed some afghan kush ryder autos but they were a failure dont think i'll bother with autos again.

I must check out the iranian short season are they mould resistant at all ??

Lost a lower branch on the bushy plant to mould a few days ago, damaged area on the branch started to mould so it was cut off.

I ended up trimming off a lot of the yellowing fan leaves just to let the air flow inbetween the branches a bit better, with all this rain lately it's only a matter of time before i see a spot of mould on the buds .

 

[The_Grim_Reefer]

Hows the weather treating ya today ?, sorry to hear bout the mold man, shitty 1. Yer better off takin it soon as it takes hold imo though, as im sure u know.

The ISS was just something i had been looking up previously that day so twas on the brain. It has a pretty high calyx to leaf ratio so i'd imagine she aint too mold resistant . While we didnt get it this year, surely 1 of these bloody summers has to revert back to what we used to get early to mid 90's.

I dunno, ive been toying around with the idea of outdoors in ireland for some years now, but theres alot against us. The cold, the rain, the shitty shitty sun lol. But more than that i think plants will begin to bud later in ireland due to where we lie above the equator, the light hours just aint on our side. And the 1 thing we cant afford is to extend our outdoor period lol.

I might toy around with a few auto's next year (the auto hindu kush, and the diesel ryder) raise em indoors, climatise em, then throw em out. I also have a spare quicksilver from an attitude order, no use to me indoors, she may join the other auto's, but will be climatised earlier as she'll grow larger.

Anyways just shootin out idea's really, here some Violator Kush ive going at the moment, 6 weeks in flower to the day as of pic take, just to show i aint talking through my ass lol (indoors of course)

EDIT: That plant looks great by the way man, must be a thrill to go out into the garden every day!

 

[Cookie monster]

The weather was great today full sun all day long in fact sunday dinner today was a bbq

You know your 100% right in what you say about the weather and flowering time being against us, mid to late september for the start of flowering is just a few weeks too late for nearly every strain i've planted outdoors.

Just for laughs i always clone a few of the indoor lot just to see how they fare outdoors and many strains have started to flower well only to be knackered by mould or frost.

The hollands hope is the best performing so far but even that will have to be cut early whether i want to or not .

The kush looks great man nice n frosty hoping she piles on the weight in the next few weeks let us know how it gets on.

Anyways bro stay safe n happy.

 

[The_Grim_Reefer]

You n me both m8, i have another 10 strains running aswell, few plants of some strains, 1 of others, looking for mothers for future runs

I've been keeping an eye on this irish forum since i joined here but icmag is more for research for me, i might pop round a bit more, its great to see more irish out of the rut!

 

[Hurley]

nice

 

[b1oK0mp0St3R]

Great stuff, folks.
Very nice!
Outdoors coming in around these parts, since we have a nice blast of snow here and there.
The glasshouse is making it, but outdoors is DONE!
Oddly enough, outdoors la nina from shanti- is frost covered and virtually unaffected (frost resistance- high); she is getting stunted of course though, so she asked for a boarding pass inside, prefers the aisle seat right by the hps bulb. Her wish is my command!

Peace,
BKompost

 

[Dakuta]

Nice hurley. Cook those Outdoor look good.Nice Purple in before the cold.

 

[Cookie monster]

Cheers bro.

Was a bit sad they had to be chopped a bit early but they were still mature enough to get stoned off, everything was hashed.

I was only reallly testing them out this year but they did well enough for me to decide to plan a few big outdoor plots next year.

The mould resistant description holds true, i did suffer from mould but none of it was on the buds.
I did suffer from mould on the plant i had kept topped but it was only on the branches that were rubbing off each other when the wind picked up.

Next year things will be done differently,

I wont be topping any of them, too much chance of wind damage and too many little popcorn buds to be dealing with.
Clones are going to be planted as early as possible rather than in july and they will be fed a pretty heavy diet of compost teas, hollands hope seems to be a hungry strain.

The seeds were dutch passion feminized and despite our less than perfect outdoor conditions i didn't notice a single male flower, definatly they are a strain to be considered for anybody who is planning an outside grow imo.

Stay safe and happy all

 

[Dakuta]

got some of Hollands hoop whilst visiting ADAM. Bright Orange Pistils and couchlock.

 

[ganjabrother]

wow, haven't been on icmag in like forever...
im gonna have to interject here.
A lot of people in this thread are complaining that one can't grow any good weed in ireland. Even though light intensity sucks, and sunny days are rare, i guarantee anyone can grow good pot in Eire, with a minimum of preparation.
(in BC, 49N, they grow good outdoor pot with rainy autumns).
The advantage in an irish climate is that frost is rare and very light, so you can let plants go on for a long time as long as they have a minimal resistance to cold AND MOLD.
looking at the strains that people answering this thread mention i see a lot of:
hollands hope, kush...
many are dutch based, have suffered so much inbreeding (the genepool is dangerously narrow), that many of the socall "outdoor" dutch strains have a poor resistance in terms of adapting to the wild, low vigor and will mold at the first rains. *on that note, if you rely on buying seeds from an irish headshop, even if the choice of seedbanks and different seeds offered is large, the choice of genetic diversity is low.
I, quite frankly would expect poor results and mold from an average Hollands hope. Im sure many canadian genetics bred outdoors in BC would survive much better and would be a killer potency wise compared to HH.

I recommend sativas, anything mold resistant for a start.
Many nepalese landraces could survive cold and the buds could withstand a wet climate.
You can find landraces from therealseedcompany, aceseeds (who also work on sativa hybrids), these guys are first class experts in breeding and understand why genetic diversity is important, they dont simply use the same genetic lines over and over, they are pioneers.

A lot of Danish and Swiss genetics are good for harsh outdoor climates (both get a lot more frost than us in ireland, but produce plants which give amazing buds... with those you have no excuse not to produce huge frosty outdoor buds ).
For those you can check out Nectar seeds, which even have some oldschool landraces mixed in with classy swiss bred strains,
Zen seeds, bluehemp.... NONE of which are found in irish headshops, and i doubt anyone would even find these in the NL.

Personally i have just finished a Bangi Haze fully matured ( even under light pollution), on the 25 oct, could have even been cut before, as this bush was collapsing under its weight with the wind.
For this particular strain buds were slightly leafier (very sweet and resinous though), than indoors or under a hot climate (however this might be partly due to light pollution. it started flowering in oct, but flowered very quickly, and showed no signs of any color change at all in the absence of cold shock (no frost obviously), no mold under heavy rains

 

[Hell9]

.Nice Purple in before the cold.

There u go, it's not all bad, the Irish climate can be good for cannabis in some ways!

 

[Hell9]

Bhangi Haze - a sativae suitable for outdoor growing and flowers in less than 4 weeks? C'moffit man! I'd hate to call anyone a liar but have you got any links or pics to back this up? I'd be amazed if you did.

I have zero outdoor growing experience but if I was going to grow outside in Ireland I would be looking for something that finishes quickly, which most sativas do not, and I would think landrace sativas to be especially long finishers as it a common charisteristic. For stealth and dealing with the elements (as well as finishing time) I would go for an
squat/sturdy indica, but I am sure a sativa would deal with the hard wind and heavy rain just as well. Again, you seem to have a strain(s) that defies all of the above and if it does what you say it does then I can see it becoming an very popular strain, if it isn't already. Either that or I am losing my marbles, which is a definite possibility.

 

[rorymullan]

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[tonto]

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[rorymullan]

username?

what?

 

[DublinHaze]

WHATS THE STORY-RORY?

WHATS THE STORY-RORY?

Sorry couldnt resist-im stoned

 

[ganjabrother]

haha, i laughed at the above while baked.

alright guys, hear me out, i was talking about a bangi haze plant, i grew outdoors.
when you grow indoors and switch 12/12 (assuming an 8 week strain), plants only start flowering on the 3rd or 4th week really (at which point, there are tiny flowers), and it produces most of it's flowers later on.
outdoors, since the amount of hours of light gradually decrease, so in my example, i mean it produced flowers for a month, before maturing, so it's not quite a paradox

i grossly exagerated the quality of the end product, which doesnt actually appear to be that good, beneath the leaves are actually pretty skinny buds, but smell alri.
but it was grown on litterally DIRT to say the least, a clone which i was goin to throw away...
i'll post some pics of the harvested plant when i have more time

when i talked about nepalese landraces, some should do well in good soil, cos even if they don't flower quickly, some should be adapted to cold (some landraces are found at >2500m in the himalayas).
however if one takes a sativa landrace eg.from thailand, i doubt that will yield many results outdoors in ireland.

anyways, peace to y'all enjoy your smoke ,

and have a great christmass,

 

[tonto]

ganga, start a thread about irish friendly strains, strains that people have tryed themselves and put their money on

 

[Cookie monster]

Right well I spent the last few days sorting out a little plot for some this years plants.

8 bags of store bought compost, 10 barrows full of home made compost,2 bags of sand,blood n bone and lime were dug in to the soil.
Ph is good and the plot gets sun for the majority of the day,when it's not cloudy that is and drainage or nutes wont be a problem.

So far i have Royal Dane,Hollands Hope and some indoor strain called Pakistan Valley germinating, Hollands Hope will be from a clone of last years and I hope to pick a few more strains that stand a chance of finishing over here.

Pretty much the plan for this year is to select the healthiest female from 5-6 different strains plant them in the best spot in the garden and see which is worth growing again.

 

[shaner123]

That looks pretty tidy Cookie Monster! You're certainly getting organised early enough! Oh yeah, why is there a green dalek in your garden? haha
Looking forward to seeing how you get on outdoors, particularly with the Royal Danes. Maybe seeing as winter was so shite, we might get a real summer this year!
Peace.