I heard today that Obama will not be using any more federal funds against our girls, distributors or growers! I've not checked the site or any other media for that matter well enough, but I don't think i've seen anything about this yet.... ??
The clubs are being shut down by State police though right? tHis isn't DEA I believe..
This thread started with several posters saying that "there are too many dispensaries", "most are corrupt and only care about $", "most sell poison, bad medicine or medicine that hurts" lol, and a bunch of other accusations that the coops are the bad guys. Then Joe said his posts were getting deleted by the mods, and truly it seemed like his posts would magically get edited, and he claimed it was a mod...
Now I would just like some clarification as to why people are saying that most clubs suck because they sell poison, bad meds, don't suck the patients dick, or whatever the ludicrous complaints are. Where is the evidence and proof that most clubs do this or that they are evil for getting herb from a bunch of sources and deliberately selling patients poison...sounds like a tin hat wearing conspiracy theory or something...I don't want bad rep or to start any flame war, just I live here, am a patient, go to many clubs in between harvests and don't see this attitude these people claim are so prevalent. 2 years ago they shut every single coop in san diego down, was it because the coops were evil? No it is because many people have interests in closing clubs down, specially street dealers who want to keep prices high.. You gotta be kidding me with these accusations of all the club bud being poison......and what, are business owners not supposed to make money?
How it got side tracked into this veteran BS I have no clue..we're talking about CLUBS IN L.A. getting shut down
you assume facts noy in evidendence who is going to test mj?for chemicals ?there is no august body to submitt each strain of mj too.
wow you actually went to a coop you didn't like,and you kept going to that same coop right?wrong!
a free market society is one where people choose daily which businesses they wish to patronize.regualtion does not mean quality ,quanity, price will go down.all that the city would have to do in theory is wait,and market forces will seperate the shitty clubs from the good .yea I am sure you were out there protesting a starbucks opening with a group of protesters not..
you can't define a free market thru goverment. or say people are out for the $while selling varying quality bud.you are engaging in conjecture,and assuming undefined facts.
unless a dispensary owner specifically told you his ambitions your are just speculating without anyevidentiary basis.
so try to keep the comments rooted in reality not fantasyland.
They CAN become patients but they can not possess on federal property. The laws that are enforced on that land are federal and have nothing to do with state laws.
The patients I am talking about are/will be living on the VA land in a massive mental/ physical heath facility, and will be subject to federal laws enforced by the police on the VA grounds, since the land is federal and not part of the state, they enforce federal laws not state. It would be unwise to posess any amount on federal land regardless of your status as a mmj patient.
IMO, it is the installation of the government services, along with creation of more dependency as a result, that leads us to where we are today. If the government kept it's nose where it belonged, and concentrated on keeping the people safe from foreign and domestic dangers (as it was intended to do and no more) then we wouldn't have a problem with herb. The free market and the human spirit can handle all thing MJ quite well without the intervention of the stinking assed government....often more efficiently and effectively than the legislature who still can't pass a budget and are responsible for the ever spreading shutdown of government services.
Man, where have you been? People talk shit about starbucks all the time for having a store on damn near every corner. The cookie-cutter vibe makes my city look bad and attracts a lot of vagrants for some reason.
Problem I have with all the unregulated pot shops isn't that they're there or that there are a particular number of them...it's that with lack of regulation comes lack of quality control. And when it comes to medicine- that can be dangerous. Not to mention the fact that you never really know what the quality of that 1/8th you just bought is until you get home and find out it looks nice, smells nice, and smokes like ass.
Free markets are all good and fine concepts to talk about, but when it comes to making sure nobody is spraying shit on my buds to make them "sparkle" more or limiting the number of shops that can open to those who are able to keep trained and knowledgable "bud-tenders" (like pharmacy techs)...I'll settle for a little regulation. So long as we all get our say in it of course.
so what the hell you implying here how are you going to regulate an industry and how is regulation a free market?
you want your weed certified?who's to define quality?a lot of clubs allow sampling meds and or hash bars.
so according to you I need a fucking white coat to make blood pressure go up?
there reasons why some clubs are better than others,is because more people tend to frequent quality places.and hence the shitty clubs can't pay bills and close.its not like anyone is going to frequent a club that lacks the following..
In 2008 there were around 234 coffee shops in Amsterdam
In 2009 we have 600 or so collectives and dispensaries in L.A.
In Amsterdam life less than a million people. How much in LA?
so the shiite stores of the world deserve your money and your patronage right?like a moth to flame I'm going back to a shitty dispensary ?or a shitty dispensary is gonna waste their time spraying something that costs$when they can just rip you off outright?,and Ill just come back and hand them more cash?the free market is just that free from the banal assertions unsubstiated by your part by any coop.Every industry is regulated somehow. When did I say I wanted to be the decider of everything? I'm simply suggesting that letting things go all willy-nilly the way they have been leads to all the problems we've been having and the reason many people still have a negative view of MMJ. We need to get together and decide what is acceptable, and what is not. That's how our country maintains order. If you want complete anarchy that's fine, but I prefer a lean system...not no system.
I don't know who would define the quality. Again, no organization has been set up because we are all still in a legal grey area.
No idea what you're talking about...as usual. But if you're asking if I only want to go see a doctor or get my medication from a pharmacist who is licensed the answer is YES! I don't like to gamble with my health.
That's simply delusional. There are stores open in every city in the world that are shite. Just less in other areas of food/health industries than in MMJ because they are regulated...for health reasons. MMJ has no such regulation, so a place could be exercising any number of dubious practices to improve their bottom line like spraying shit on their buds to make them look more "sparkly" or make them heavier...seen it. If you haven't yet, consider yourself lucky. But just because you haven't experienced something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
so the shiite stores of the world deserve your money and your patronage right?like a moth to flame I'm going back to a shitty dispensary ?or a shitty dispensary is gonna waste their time spraying something that costs$when they can just rip you off outright?,and Ill just come back and hand them more cash?the free market is just that free from the banal assertions unsubstiated by your part by any coop.
you know whats delusional is the hypocrisy of your assertions.
since when is opening a store anarchy?maybe theres 600 dispensaries because most of the other cities in so cal have banned them.
these stores that opened justify their need by the mere fact that they are open and operating .how many starbucks, pizza ,liquor stores are there?leave em alone if they serve a need then they will have the economic justification for remaining open and serving the public,if not their business will fail.