Should I run the system with bleach water for some kind of super clean? Of course not with the ladies in it? super confused.
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I must be crazy. Just went back down to check again with my new digital meter which I have calibrated 3 times just to make sure. Everything is fine PH is at 6-7. I would blame it on good smoke but I got nothin. I just pray it stays like this. I just wanna rest and go watch the end of LOST.
Dude that's fuckin weird man,something wrong with the flow of that right side? I have a 4 bucket system blazeoneup style I have a 633gph pump in it aith 1/2" feed lines and 3/4" drain lines click on my current grows,man that's fucked up.
Well after a crazy night everything is up to par now and im a happy man. Ph is @ 7ish, ppm is around 350 room temp 80 and water is 71. What is a good ppm for first couple weeks in flower?
I think it could be higher than 350,my 4 in veg are at 750ish and I plan to bump it up a wee bit every week til I hit 900-1000ppm (depending on what they look like...) then I'll flip em to 12/12 @ 1000ppm or so,but I'm runnin a different strain.
I'd say just leave it there for a day or 2 then if they take it and things stay stable (PH wise!!!) start bumping it up 100ppm or so and see how they like it.
As everyone says "The gals will tell you what they want/like, You just gotta pay a little extra attention to them and to sometimes the most simple things "I've found".
Good luck dude...
I'd say just leave it there for a day or 2 then if they take it and things stay stable (PH wise!!!) start bumping it up 100ppm or so and see how they like it.
As everyone says "The gals will tell you what they want/like, You just gotta pay a little extra attention to them and to sometimes the most simple things "I've found".
Good luck dude...
Oh and I'd try to work that PH down to 5-6 maybe target for 5.8ish??
And maybe look into getting a much larger 500-700gph pump as recommended before, sometimes a little overkill on certain things works best.
To tell you the truth if I sout out to build a system that big I would have gone with a 1000+ gph pump I almost got a 900gph for my 4 bucket system cuz it was only $60 or something but that was a little too overkill. Picked up the eco 633gph for $35 can't beat that.
I think I get like 38 circulations per hour or something like that which I'm sure is enough and with not having a chiller and res temps hitting 75-80 Deg I'm glad I went with a way bigger pump,I'm lovin blazes teachings so far. I wish I had the space to go as big as you got,someday man someday...
To tell you the truth if I sout out to build a system that big I would have gone with a 1000+ gph pump I almost got a 900gph for my 4 bucket system cuz it was only $60 or something but that was a little too overkill. Picked up the eco 633gph for $35 can't beat that.
I think I get like 38 circulations per hour or something like that which I'm sure is enough and with not having a chiller and res temps hitting 75-80 Deg I'm glad I went with a way bigger pump,I'm lovin blazes teachings so far. I wish I had the space to go as big as you got,someday man someday...
Should I just PH down it. Or add nutes to bring it down? I will get a larger pump. Thanks alot guys. PS. How much ph down should be added. It seems like it doesn't do anything, but I know it does. Thanks again.
From Blaze's Tutorial:
"Below is a guideline to follow for feeding both sativa and indica,They both grow well within the same ph levels however Sativa's require less nutrients.Also ruderallis "Auto flowering" plants have the highest ammounts of chlorophyll production their for will be mostly in the indica area of the chart,And may require slightly higher levels,To maximize results,However take into mind that is based on a 30 day veg,And 60 day flowering scedule,And is mainly for the indoor grower,Also size will also play a role in the chlorophyll levels in the plant,But not the ammount it produces,Because a sativa still uses/produces much less chlorophyll than an indica,And auto flowering strains have the highest levels,Even more than the indica.Basically a 7ft tall sativa will have as much chlorophyll as a 3ft tall indica,But this does not mean its producing as much chlorophyll as the indica,It just has as much as the indica,Because its larger mass,So what this means is just because the7ft tall sativa has as much chlorophyll as the 3ft indica,Dont mean it needs as much nutrient up-take as the indica,Because its still produces less chlorophyll than the indica,There for still requires lower levels of nutrients,Because it dont produce as much chlorophyll as the indica,The ammount it contains has nothing to do with the ammount it produces.A larger mass will naturally contain a larger ammount,But it was still produced at a much lower rate.
Indica's hydro soil
early vegg 500-600ppm 5.3-5.6 ph / 300-400ppm ph 6.3-6.6
middle vegg 600-800ppm 5.4-5.6 ph / 400-600ppm ph 6.4-6.6
late vegg 800-1000ppm 5.5-5.7ph / 600-800ppm ph 6.5-6.7
early flower 1000-1300ppm 5.5-5.7ph / 800-1000ppm ph 6.5-6.7
middle flower 1400-1600ppm 5.5-5.8ph / 1100-1300ppm ph 6.4-6.6
late flower 1000-1100ppm 5.5-5.7 ph/ 900-1000ppm ph 6.4-6.6
ripening 300-500ppm 5.4-5.6ph / 200-400ppm ph 6.4-6.6
sativa's hydro soil
early vegg 300-500ppm 5.3-5.6 ph/ 200-300ppm ph 6.4-6.6
middle vegg 500-700ppm 5.4-5.6 ph / 300-500ppm ph 6.4-6.6
late vegg 700-900ppm 5.5-5.7ph / 500-700ppm ph 6.6-6.8
early flower 1000-1100ppm 5.5-5.7ph / 700-1000ppm ph 6.6-6.8
middle flower 1100-1300ppm 5.5-5.8ph/ 1000-1300ppm ph 6.4-6.6
late flower 800-1000ppm 5.5-5.7 ph / 700-900ppm ph 6.3-6.6
ripening 300-500ppm 5.4-5.6ph / 200-300ppm ph 6.3-6.5
Remember in hydro optimal ph ranges are 5.3-5.9 best ranges are 5.5-5.8.Either way you will get healthy growth if you keep it within the 5.3-5.8 range 5.5-5.8 most optimal..
Soil growers optimal soil ranges are 6.3-6.8 optimal being 6.4-6.7 either way you will get healthy growth as long as you keep it inbewteen the 6.3-6.8 ranges.
Now these can be tampered with a little but dont go to accessive with it,And adjust as needed to maximize growth with your particular strains needs,This is just a good guideline to get you close enough,To insure no problems,And will allow you to set it,And adjust on the strains needs,A good thing to do is slowly test your strains,Raise the ppm's a little drop it a little,Same with the ph take note of the differences in growth,And save them as well,See where your getting the increased health and vigor,And try to keep it their,Test it often through-out the whole grow slowly making adjustments,You will eventually find the levels your strain best grows at,Because all strains have different genetic make/ups,And will require different levels of nutrients,And temperature/humidity levels to maximize,So be sure to slowly change all aspects a little at a time,And learn your strain,Then maximize your growth/Yeilds!"
*With the circulation you have: #gals in filled system/GPH of your pump = rough estimate of circulations per hour.
So, (with an eco 2??) that would explain why your pH doesn't change so fast. Start a little at a time, record how much you use, and how long it takes to stabilize pH and you will find a system that works for you.
Nutes can bring it down, but probably won't all the way.
Then you also have friction, but we aren't getting that technical.
*'Member "patience is a virtue".
"Below is a guideline to follow for feeding both sativa and indica,They both grow well within the same ph levels however Sativa's require less nutrients.Also ruderallis "Auto flowering" plants have the highest ammounts of chlorophyll production their for will be mostly in the indica area of the chart,And may require slightly higher levels,To maximize results,However take into mind that is based on a 30 day veg,And 60 day flowering scedule,And is mainly for the indoor grower,Also size will also play a role in the chlorophyll levels in the plant,But not the ammount it produces,Because a sativa still uses/produces much less chlorophyll than an indica,And auto flowering strains have the highest levels,Even more than the indica.Basically a 7ft tall sativa will have as much chlorophyll as a 3ft tall indica,But this does not mean its producing as much chlorophyll as the indica,It just has as much as the indica,Because its larger mass,So what this means is just because the7ft tall sativa has as much chlorophyll as the 3ft indica,Dont mean it needs as much nutrient up-take as the indica,Because its still produces less chlorophyll than the indica,There for still requires lower levels of nutrients,Because it dont produce as much chlorophyll as the indica,The ammount it contains has nothing to do with the ammount it produces.A larger mass will naturally contain a larger ammount,But it was still produced at a much lower rate.
Indica's hydro soil
early vegg 500-600ppm 5.3-5.6 ph / 300-400ppm ph 6.3-6.6
middle vegg 600-800ppm 5.4-5.6 ph / 400-600ppm ph 6.4-6.6
late vegg 800-1000ppm 5.5-5.7ph / 600-800ppm ph 6.5-6.7
early flower 1000-1300ppm 5.5-5.7ph / 800-1000ppm ph 6.5-6.7
middle flower 1400-1600ppm 5.5-5.8ph / 1100-1300ppm ph 6.4-6.6
late flower 1000-1100ppm 5.5-5.7 ph/ 900-1000ppm ph 6.4-6.6
ripening 300-500ppm 5.4-5.6ph / 200-400ppm ph 6.4-6.6
sativa's hydro soil
early vegg 300-500ppm 5.3-5.6 ph/ 200-300ppm ph 6.4-6.6
middle vegg 500-700ppm 5.4-5.6 ph / 300-500ppm ph 6.4-6.6
late vegg 700-900ppm 5.5-5.7ph / 500-700ppm ph 6.6-6.8
early flower 1000-1100ppm 5.5-5.7ph / 700-1000ppm ph 6.6-6.8
middle flower 1100-1300ppm 5.5-5.8ph/ 1000-1300ppm ph 6.4-6.6
late flower 800-1000ppm 5.5-5.7 ph / 700-900ppm ph 6.3-6.6
ripening 300-500ppm 5.4-5.6ph / 200-300ppm ph 6.3-6.5
Remember in hydro optimal ph ranges are 5.3-5.9 best ranges are 5.5-5.8.Either way you will get healthy growth if you keep it within the 5.3-5.8 range 5.5-5.8 most optimal..
Soil growers optimal soil ranges are 6.3-6.8 optimal being 6.4-6.7 either way you will get healthy growth as long as you keep it inbewteen the 6.3-6.8 ranges.
Now these can be tampered with a little but dont go to accessive with it,And adjust as needed to maximize growth with your particular strains needs,This is just a good guideline to get you close enough,To insure no problems,And will allow you to set it,And adjust on the strains needs,A good thing to do is slowly test your strains,Raise the ppm's a little drop it a little,Same with the ph take note of the differences in growth,And save them as well,See where your getting the increased health and vigor,And try to keep it their,Test it often through-out the whole grow slowly making adjustments,You will eventually find the levels your strain best grows at,Because all strains have different genetic make/ups,And will require different levels of nutrients,And temperature/humidity levels to maximize,So be sure to slowly change all aspects a little at a time,And learn your strain,Then maximize your growth/Yeilds!"
*With the circulation you have: #gals in filled system/GPH of your pump = rough estimate of circulations per hour.
So, (with an eco 2??) that would explain why your pH doesn't change so fast. Start a little at a time, record how much you use, and how long it takes to stabilize pH and you will find a system that works for you.
Nutes can bring it down, but probably won't all the way.
Then you also have friction, but we aren't getting that technical.
*'Member "patience is a virtue".
You have some kind of issue if half of your buckets are reading 2-3 and the other half around 6 ph. I would dump it and run it with water with a few bottles of rubbing alcohol for a couple hours. then dump, rinse, and remix nutes. Plenty of people (including blaze if i remember correctly) only use 1/4" feed lines. I think the larger pump is really more for convenience as in it mixes nutes through your system faster so you don't have to wait as long to check readings. That is not the only benifit but you can definitely get by without a 900-1000 gph pump.
Don't run rubbing alcohol through the system with PLANTS in it.
WTF!
H2O2 if you must feel like killing all the micro-organisms.
Depending on what PH down you have use little at a time,I have AN PH down and its crazy concentrate 1/4 tsp will move 18-20gal down 1-2 PH so be careful you don't over shoot then youl just start chasing yourself.
And you could get by without a 900-1000gph pump but that's just getting by and not being sure with a little overkill,I'd look at plantlightinghydroponics.com or horticulturesource.com they have pumps for way cheap.
Good luck and I hope your gals pull thru all this crazyness.
And you could get by without a 900-1000gph pump but that's just getting by and not being sure with a little overkill,I'd look at plantlightinghydroponics.com or horticulturesource.com they have pumps for way cheap.
Good luck and I hope your gals pull thru all this crazyness.
I clearly wasn't referring to running rubbing alcohol with the plants in the system. OP mentioned running bleach without the plants in......
Thanks everyone for the comments, Much appreciated. Do I just add nutes little by little to raise ppm? Its around 450 now after adding cal-mag plus.
Yeah just like that,you would much rather under feed than over feed.
Just watch em and if they look like they can take more add a little more but with being in bloom for this long I'd take it up to 500-600PPM then go up from there but that's just me and I'm not lookin directly at them.
Just watch em and if they look like they can take more add a little more but with being in bloom for this long I'd take it up to 500-600PPM then go up from there but that's just me and I'm not lookin directly at them.
Ok thanks alot Green.
Your welcome dude.I really wana see your ladys make it and I wana see you produce some sticky dank ya know?
so whats up?? how are things growing??
yeah I'm curious.... I'll try to stop by tomorrow if you're around....
bad news also; the mother plant of the G13haze that we love is dying
..... I went to the guys house today and he told me it's not looking good and the clones are getting harder to root so he's taking it out. He wants me to hook him up with a new strain to run from some of my shit. So that sucks, no more g13haze in the future.
bad news also; the mother plant of the G13haze that we love is dying
..... I went to the guys house today and he told me it's not looking good and the clones are getting harder to root so he's taking it out. He wants me to hook him up with a new strain to run from some of my shit. So that sucks, no more g13haze in the future.
