VACCINE-AUTISM DOCTOR GUILTY OF ‘DISHONESTY AND MISLEADING CONDUCT

[bombadil.360]

nah... Edward Holmes of Oxford University was willing to believe it, until all the evidence came in... so were lots of scientists... here is eddie Holmes number if you would like to call and ask a real virologist opinion... http://www.cidd.psu.edu/people/ech15

you are just helping me with my point.

Oxford as well as the whole of westernized medicine will never take the responsibility, for they are the "wise" ones, as opposed the savage africans.

They blamed AIDS on africans by saying they are crazy uncivilized people who have sex with monkeys.

But knowing our western buddies like we do, facts are that they indeed had chimps in the Congo labs, and fact is their tissues were used.

facts are that they indeed used the vaccines on hundreds of thousands of the african population.

it is all on record, there are only a few dudes denying it.

in the french documentary, you even get to see video of the labs and the chimps.

and now you post Paul Osterrieth denying it; shit, you get to see him and the chimps together in the video lol.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Whatever...
buy into the conspiracy theory all you want to...
There is no actual evidence that polio vaccinations originated AIDS. period. The french Documentary can be debunked with ease.
There is a small bit of circumstantial evidence... I'm not going to entertain such a weak case... as far as science is concerned there is NO link which can be shown.

While SIV was present in chimpanzees in the area, the strain of SIV infecting these chimpanzees was phylogenetically distinct from all strains of HIV, providing direct evidence that these particular chimps were not the source of HIV in humans

However...
we now KNOW...
The autism link to vaccines was fabricated...

 

[bombadil.360]

Whatever...
buy into the conspiracy theory all you want to...
There is no actual evidence that polio vaccinations originated AIDS. period. The french Documentary can be debunked with ease.
There is a small bit of circumstantial evidence... I'm not going to entertain such a weak case... as far as science is concerned there is NO link which can be shown.


However...
we now KNOW...
The autism link to vaccines was fabricated...

I guess that settles it lol...

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Since HIV was demonstrated to be genetically unrelated to the SIV found in the chimps 'which would have been used had chimps ever been used', it is not bloody likely at all that HIV resulted from polio vaccines. I'm sure it doesn't settle it... there will always be hardcore conspiracy theorists.

 

[mexilandrace]

I ask a question of you:

If your son had autism would you not look anywhere you could for the answer of why?

My son was born with a cleft pallet, there is a guilt there that it was my fault. To look on someone you love that much and feel like you needed to do something better.

The autism thing is parents looking for answers, maybe vaccines contribute, maybe they don't.

Parents just need answers. Need to feel like they didn't cause it. Vaccines put blame on parents, that's a choice. Parents can't deal with that. I don't blame them at all.

 

[master shake]

Oh yeah no depopulation scheme...it's not like the current science czar Holdren published in a book how to add sterilants to public water supply as a means of population control...

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

and Andrew Wakefield is still a liar who has caused immeasurable harm.

 

[cork144]

Since HIV was demonstrated to be genetically unrelated to the SIV found in the chimps 'which would have been used had chimps ever been used', it is not bloody likely at all that HIV resulted from polio vaccines. I'm sure it doesn't settle it... there will always be hardcore conspiracy theorists.

and there will always be people who will defend the salvery system untill it breaks their will and humanity.

 

[cork144]

Overview of the theory

One theory of the origin of AIDS is that it developed from contaminated vaccines used in the world's first mass immunisation for polio. There are a number of reasons why this theory is plausible enough to be worthy of further investigation.

* The location coincides dramatically. The earliest known cases of AIDS occurred in central Africa, in the same regions where Koprowski's polio vaccine was given to over a million people in 1957-1960.
* The timing coincides. There is no documented case of HIV infection or AIDS before 1959. Centuries of the slave trade and European exploitation of Africa exposed Africans and others to all other diseases then known; it is implausible that HIV could have been present and spreading in Africa without being recognised.
* Polio vaccines are grown (cultured) on monkey kidneys which could have been contaminated by SIVs. Polio vaccines could not be screened for SIV contamination before 1985.
* Another monkey virus, SV-40, is known to have been passed to humans through polio vaccines. A specific pool of Koprowski's vaccine was later shown to have been contaminated by an unknown virus.
* In order for a virus to infect a different species, it is helpful to reduce the resistance of the new host's immune system. Koprowski's polio vaccine was given to many children less than one month old, before their immune systems were fully developed. Indeed, in one trial, infants were given 15 times the standard dose in order to ensure effective immunisation.

If this theory is correct, it has serious ethical, health and policy implications. In particular, it points to the danger of interspecies transfer of material through vaccinations, organ transplants, etc., which could lead to new variants of AIDS as well as other new diseases. As well, studying the theory may lead to insights about responding to AIDS and preventing new diseases.

http://www.uow.edu.au/~bmartin/dissent/documents/AIDS/


remember grat3, once it had happened, aids was unstoppable, it would have only taken that ONE batch of contaminated vaccine to be injected into millions of people and then the snowball effect takes on from there as humans like to have sex.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

http://www.uow.edu.au/~bmartin/dissent/documents/AIDS/


remember grat3, once it had happened, aids was unstoppable, it would have only taken that ONE batch of contaminated vaccine to be injected into millions of people and then the snowball effect takes on from there as humans like to have sex.

yup, once the virus mutated so that it could infect the chimp eating locals, it took off like wildfire...

While SIV was present in chimpanzees in the area, the strain of SIV infecting these chimpanzees was phylogenetically distinct from all strains of HIV, providing direct evidence that these particular chimps were not the source of HIV in humans

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

when people's imaginations overtake their reasoning, you get all sorts of crackpot theories...

 

[cork144]

and when a man becomes disconnected from his own center of intelligence, he hopes upon that paper handed to him by the one taking controll of his life, but he is led blind, off the face of cliffs.

 

[GeneticHeirloom]

So much gratefulhead ownage its rediculous.

EDIT: I'm for gratefulhead... I don't believe the hype in this specific case with such large amounts of scientific data being present.

 

[bombadil.360]

yup, once the virus mutated so that it could infect the chimp eating locals, it took off like wildfire...

While SIV was present in chimpanzees in the area, the strain of SIV infecting these chimpanzees was phylogenetically distinct from all strains of HIV, providing direct evidence that these particular chimps were not the source of HIV in humans

talk about coincidences...

shit, the virus even mutated at the very exact time-lapse that it needed to mutate to free the people from their guilt.

I get it.

those filthy chimp eating people had it coming, right?

lol...

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

talk about coincidences...

shit, the virus even mutated at the very exact time-lapse that it needed to mutate to free the people from their guilt.

I get it.

those filthy chimp eating people had it coming, right?

lol...

no more than filthy pork eaters deserve swine flu... why do you have to imply that I said something unpalatable like that? you know good and well that I never implied anything negative about chimp eaters... guess you need a straw man to knock down?

FACT: viruses in animals can mutate into forms that humans are susceptible to.



Yes, it is a coincidence that HIV evolved during the time the polio was being removed from the scene... Virus and bacteria have been mutating to overcome immunities for millions of years longer than vaccines have been around... New virus emerge every year... something coincidental is bound to happen.

 

[bombadil.360]

no more than filthy pork eaters deserve swine flu... why do you have to imply that I said something unpalatable like that? you know good and well that I never implied anything negative about chimp eaters... guess you need a straw man to knock down?

FACT: viruses in animals can mutate into forms that humans are susceptible to.



Yes, it is a coincidence that HIV evolved during the time the polio was being removed from the scene... Virus and bacteria have been mutating to overcome immunities for millions of years longer than vaccines have been around...

so all them "chimp eaters" (your term btw), who had been eating chimp since who knows when, suddenly get ill due to a strange mutation in their food that just happens to arise when them white doctors where in Congo with fancy labs and giving peeps vaccinations; this is all just plain coincidence.

lol

 

[Mala Tempora]

I still really don't know what to think about this. In just about any other circumstance I'd agree with the science. In this case though, I have no idea what I should think. I know what the science says, and I'm extremely inclined to agree, but I've also seen first hand evidence that suggests otherwise. It's confusing.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

so all them "chimp eaters" (your term btw), who had been eating chimp since who knows when, suddenly get ill due to a strange mutation in their food that just happens to arise when them white doctors where in Congo with fancy labs and giving peeps vaccinations; this is all just plain coincidence.

lol

yes... chimp-eaters is my term for people who eat chimps...
What of it? should I have called them "those locals who had been eating chimps since who knows when"? lmao... your attempt to paint me as a bigot who thinks 'filthy'(your term) chimp-eaters "had it coming"(again, your term) is a giant red herring.

Pig eaters(people who raise and eat pigs) can get swine flu and bird eaters(people who raise and eat fowl) can get bird flu...
are you really so narrow sighted as to not understand that virus mutate and pass from animal to human? Been doing it for millions of years without whitey helping...

Yes it is coincidence... things coincided... *queue erie music*

coincidence |kōˈinsədəns; -ˌdens|
noun
1 a remarkable concurrence of events or circumstances without apparent causal connection.
2 correspondence in nature or in time of occurrence

 

[bombadil.360]

yes... chimp-eaters is my term for people who eat chimps...
What of it? should I have called them "those locals who had been eating chimps since who knows when"? lmao... your attempt to paint me as a bigot who thinks 'filthy'(your term) chimp-eaters "had it coming"(again, your term) is a giant red herring.

Pig eaters get swine flu and bird eaters get bird flu...
are you really so narrow sighted as to not understand that virus mutate and pass from animal to human? Been doing it for millions of years without whitey helping...

Yes it is coincidence... things coincided... *queue erie music*

man... you went too far, now you are freely showing your ignorance...

like I said, I've worked in labs, have you?

bird flu is epizootic, and "transmission of the virus from infected birds to humans is inefficient" and the means through which humans become infected is due to the handling of infected poultry.

not because of eating... same thing with swine flu.

the risk of eating pork is getting worms in your brain and that is not swine flu, just in case lol...

 

[cork144]

yea i did laugh when he he said if you eat a meat you get a flu lol,


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