🤩… NEVILS HAZE x TOM HILL HAZE
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like I said, I always thought that it is NL what makes narcotic character of dutch haze, then I found, through real haze reasearch˙, that colombian without NL can be narcotic and heavy in eyes too LOL
and thats why I make hypothesis, psychological, or neural if you want, that people who are used to smoke indicas hybrids, lean to these lumbo phenos of haze. is that cbd to the mix their brains are seeking for?
but NL will have its influence stil even it is thai pheno, when we compared effect of mother of this cross, to real thai blood positronics haze. we noticed ceilling is pretty low, also psychoactivity is reduced, and not so mutlidimensional like at heavy thai phenos of posi haze.
could we say that when you cross thai with NL, you get kind of colombian effect? probably yes. less psychoactive, more heavy head..
and thats why I make hypothesis, psychological, or neural if you want, that people who are used to smoke indicas hybrids, lean to these lumbo phenos of haze. is that cbd to the mix their brains are seeking for?
but NL will have its influence stil even it is thai pheno, when we compared effect of mother of this cross, to real thai blood positronics haze. we noticed ceilling is pretty low, also psychoactivity is reduced, and not so mutlidimensional like at heavy thai phenos of posi haze.
could we say that when you cross thai with NL, you get kind of colombian effect? probably yes. less psychoactive, more heavy head..
When I was buying $40 an ounce Colombian in the 1970s that was what I got.. exceptionally strong weed double Lumbo
OldCoolSativa
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Here's an update on the NH x THH clones #1 and #3 that I got from @flower~power back in March. I planted the clones outside and they barely survived the cold rainy spring we had here in New England. The plants ended up getting huge, #3 was about 3 m tall. They survived a light frost at 42N in mid October and I harvested them on November 6 ahead of our first hard frost. I've also grown them indoors, one shitty run last spring and a better run now alongside some punto rojo. My observations:
The #1 plant is:
I'll post some pics of the indoor buds as they mature, but they look awesome at 6 weeks. Here are a couple pics of #1 and #3 outdoors:
Early September; #1 is on the left
Mid October; punto rojos on right with four selected males
Harvest on November 6
#1 bud
#3 bud
The #1 plant is:
- less vigorous than #3,
- faster both indoors and outdoors than #3,
- yields better than #3 (outdoor at 42N),
- more interesting aroma, and
- more NL influenced in structure and effect than #3.
I'll post some pics of the indoor buds as they mature, but they look awesome at 6 weeks. Here are a couple pics of #1 and #3 outdoors:
Early September; #1 is on the left
Mid October; punto rojos on right with four selected males
Harvest on November 6
#1 bud
#3 bud
OldCoolSativa
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Way back in this thread I predicted that #1 would be the longest flowering and best plant when @flower~power was getting frustrated about how slow the onset of flower was. I was wrong.
When I met FP and was offered clones I selected based on viney bud structure of the plants he had in flower at the time. I was right there, because both are excellent plants. Turns out that #3 flowers longer, and, having less NL influence, finishes latest with a lower yield. There's really not much difference in the quality of the effects, and even though the aromas of #1 are more exotic, the high is a little bit more complex yet also more sleepy after a while, so I give the overall nod to #3. It helps that it's just greasy with resin and has that classic sativa structure.
When I met FP and was offered clones I selected based on viney bud structure of the plants he had in flower at the time. I was right there, because both are excellent plants. Turns out that #3 flowers longer, and, having less NL influence, finishes latest with a lower yield. There's really not much difference in the quality of the effects, and even though the aromas of #1 are more exotic, the high is a little bit more complex yet also more sleepy after a while, so I give the overall nod to #3. It helps that it's just greasy with resin and has that classic sativa structure.
Was vaping some of one of these today ..Gets me extremely high in a much different way than most of my others ..always cant help but notice this
poorly grown plants. terrible and that mold on leafs. it really shows how plants like you. LOL
it doesnt matter what genetics it is. if its grown so poor, it smokes like hay.
hehehe there is such movie about perfume makers in Paris, dont know name, and guy kills and distillates young virgin women to get that essence from them and then manipulates crowd with it LOL quite scary and maybe disgusting, but he had really good nose hahahaha
real haze smells like young woman. so feminine!
Nexus7
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That's a bit harsh! They don't seem too bad imho ... outdoors you're always at the mercy of your environment so it's very hard to get a perfect grow like you indoor guys get.
Also some strains just won't work above a certain latitude or in a certain climate which may be the case here.
That said I'd happily have a crack at the #3 x PR males if they're still on offer
Perfume, story of [EDIT:] a murderer, the book is even better. I think by Süskind?
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Grover Sativa
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People make such weird films...
Grover Sativa
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harsh.......but true....to be fair... (I was thinking it ... but would never have said it) but he likes the smoke, it gets him high, so it's all good, in the end.That's a bit harsh! They don't seem too bad imho ... outdoors you're always at the mercy of your environment so it's very hard to get a perfect grow like you indoor guys get.
Also some strains just won't work above a certain latitude or in a certain climate which may be the case here.
That said I'd happily have a crack at the #3 x PR males if they're still on offer
It's nothing a whole heap of organic stuff dug into that bed and much bigger pots wouldn't help to solve.
I'd still be growing more Paki and less Thai in that garden, if you know what I mean... or perhaps a mountain sativa, like Nepalese..? It's good to experiment, though. I'm always trying to push the boundaries of what I can grow up North, sativa-wise - but usually ending up with loads of hay that I turn into about a gram of hash. I rue my decisions whilst smoking the huge pile of top quality Pakistani Kush that I DID successfully bring in from the great and cold outdoors...
yes..some Colombians
it is complete hay. cold did screw it so bad. flowers not developed.. really bad. you need greenhouse such far North and light dep. also even so far at North, probably 45N, it is hard to see mold on sativa leafs, you must be "expert" to get that LOL but thats about knowledge and understanding of tropical cultivars...
dont react to Nexus, thats complete troll, he is from humpys crew. he did shit in this thread more than once.
nice to see ya after some time. keep it up.
OldCoolSativa
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Unlike others, I can handle criticism amigos, they were not well-grown plant, and they didn't like that I left them outside during some light frosts. I'll be the first to admit that my growing skills need improvement. That said, even harvested prematurely, the NHxTHH herb provides a great buzz.
These plants did have problems with PM in my environment, outdoors and indoors. The punto rojo? None whatsoever. Presence of PM on "sativas" in my area is like a canary in a coal mine - it means there are skunk or Indica genes in the mix. And that is not to be tolerated. The odds of me ever growing a Pakistani Kush? Zero.
I hope Maha Kala has a backup of the THH male he used in the cross. It is worthy and I imagine he treasures it.
These plants did have problems with PM in my environment, outdoors and indoors. The punto rojo? None whatsoever. Presence of PM on "sativas" in my area is like a canary in a coal mine - it means there are skunk or Indica genes in the mix. And that is not to be tolerated. The odds of me ever growing a Pakistani Kush? Zero.
I hope Maha Kala has a backup of the THH male he used in the cross. It is worthy and I imagine he treasures it.
