DEA Scoffs Obama: Raids California Dispensary

[SrPlantManager]

I've said this already, but the way I see it, it's not an issue of skin color, it's one of morality. As has been said here already, Obama has a lot on his plate. ALOT. Regardless of HOW he got the job, he DOES, and like anyone else he can't build Rome in a day. Patience my fellow stoney commrades.

Personally I'd like to see it our favorite herb legalized and taxed, but even if he doesn't, there's more than one way to skin a cat. At some point, when, I don't know, but eventually, the majority of US states are going to have adopted mmj and or decriminalized.

PB, if the 'hemp oil' used by Rick Simpson truly is a cure for diabetes, then until changes are made on the govt level, why not promote it under the radar? As the old saying goes, "the sqeaky wheel gets the grease", so stop sqeaking so loudly and make it a more underground movement. In a profit based society, where cancer is far more profitable TREATING instead of CURING, as immoral as that is, play the 'system' against it's self and keep it under the radar. Sure, it may not be right, but neither is profiting at the expense of human lives, and no matter what, Obama isn't going to be changing THAT any time soon. So we do what we HAVE to do to save the ones we can. It would be just as immoral for US to do ANY different.

At some point soon, Obama will have to address the issue of the fed raids, and that, just like the states' adoption of decriminalization and medical cannabis, will take some time.

As someone told ME recently, maybe directing my activist energy towrds what we CAN do would be more suitable and helpful for those that NEED the help. It's the just and noble thing to do considering the circumstances.

Trust me PB, I'm with you, but ranting on and on about the people Obama is 'responsible' for 'killing' is getting US and the reform movement no where. Use that energy in a more contructive way, brotha!

Do what we can for the people we can in whatever way is the most contructive.

I challenge anyone growing on a large enough basis to make their own hemp oil and get in touch with someone that can help get it to those who would want it and need it. Personally, I myself would do some independent testing, just to confirm the facts. THENtake the necessary actions to get it to the people under the radar.

Play the game the govt is so well adapted to. Subversion and coversion. Play the system the way they play US. Covertly and without knowledge our permission.

Just a thought

 

[guest]

PB, if the 'hemp oil' used by Rick Simpson truly is a cure for diabetes, then until changes are made on the govt level, why not promote it under the radar? As the old saying goes, "the sqeaky wheel gets the grease", so stop sqeaking so loudly and make it a more underground movement. In a profit based society, where cancer is far more profitable TREATING instead of CURING, as immoral as that is, play the 'system' against it's self and keep it under the radar. Sure, it may not be right, but neither is profiting at the expense of human lives, and no matter what, Obama isn't going to be changing THAT any time soon. So we do what we HAVE to do to save the ones we can. It would be just as immoral for US to do ANY different.

At some point soon, Obama will have to address the issue of the fed raids, and that, just like the states' adoption of decriminalization and medical cannabis, will take some time.

As someone told ME recently, maybe directing my activist energy towrds what we CAN do would be more suitable and helpful for those that NEED the help. It's the just and noble thing to do considering the circumstances.

Trust me PB, I'm with you, but ranting on and on about the people Obama is 'responsible' for 'killing' is getting US and the reform movement no where. Use that energy in a more contructive way, brotha!

Do what we can for the people we can in whatever way is the most contructive.

You have now learned about the possibility.

If I kept quiet you would have not learned about it.

This information is moral grounds for the government to change ASAP. Not something on a back burner. Not something for someday over the rainbow. Right now! Today!

A lot of people get upset with the way I've been presenting the information. Yet while they voice their disagreement, they learn something new. And so do others lurking in the background.

This is all about getting the information out to people. Hopefully the right people.

Today makes 6000 dead innocent Americans.

 

[mr noodles]

lets hope he will stop the dea raid but beyond that there no chance in hell that marijuana will be decriminalized in any fashion .

under strict medical guideline ...what the hell doe that mean ? he may not support the actual club concept at all . lets see

check this video , he is pretty clear about it . Obama never promised anything regarding marijuana .

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d48_1223945256

i hope he will do something for medical marijuana but the agenda on the horizon will not allow a silly subject as marijuana to be on the priority list .


i remember when Clinton entered the white house....the hope and expectation where so there...


lets him do a few months and we will be fixed for good on the mj issue .

 

[SrPlantManager]

Point taken PB

I still think though, since it IS a MORAL issue, that we as responsible caring Americans, challenge those that grow on a large enough scale to make some 'hemp oil' and do the research. Then quietly spread it around.

Mr Simpson was busted (though not charged thankfully) because he, like you PB, was using a bullhorn to get the attention the medical movement needs. Let's learn from his mistake, as OUR govt wont be ANYWHERE NEAR AS FORGIVING AS CANADA!

Much more attention to those who matter can be made through a whisper. Why if our govt is going to drag their feet on the issue, send them any message at all?

I see MMJ being adopted nationwide before too long, yes. But using it as a cure for ANYTHING isn't going to happen. Big Pharma has far too many billions to lose, and have lobbyists paying handsomely to keep it that way. Persoanlly I think it would lift an already overwhelming burden on our current health care system, but I'm skeptical about big pharma using cannabis oil to cure a thing, as far too much is being made on treatment. They wouldn't make a fraction as much if they worked on a prevention, much less an all-out cure.

If enough people were to quietly discover what Rick Simpson claims, and covertly begin spreading around the cure, it will make it far less easy for the govt watchdogs to pick up on it and stop it, as you KNOW they WILL. Once a large enough section of America truly see the light and catch on to what our govt and politicans are REALLY doing for US, then 'we the people' can force that change. People haven't yet learned that being sheep is keeping the govt and big pharma fat and happy. If the movement was to grow quietly enough for the masses to finally see the light of truth, maybe THEN true change can be brought about. But as long as we use bullhorns to take the fight to the govt, we will lose at every corner. We have to quietly take the truth to the people, and gain enough support.

Can anyone else see it working any other way in our current situation?

I as well as many many sick and dying people are open to suggestions.

I just don't see death over profitablity as an moral option.

 

[kaotic]

Rainman

Rainman

Louis Farakkhan started the whole messiah thing, not Rush. If you think all republicans are racists maybe you should look into the history of the KKK and the DEMOCRATIC party. I'm glad you think I'm a racist, seeing how you can read a post or two and completely figure me out you must be the smartest man in existence. I have never owned a slave or disrespected anyone based on race, nor have any of my forfathers. (we came from Repitigny) I do not have a problem with race. My problem is with a socialist agenda. I've already gotten used to the fact that a white man can't critisize Obama without being a racist so I will tell you my feelings about Bush and McCain. They are both backstabbing liars, and decietful politicians. Bush has spent like crazy and grown an already bloated government to a level that will never be able to be taken back down to size. He has cost us more personal liberty in the name of protection than anyone else. I feel McCain would have been just as bad. I have more respect for Obama than either of them. I might not agree with his policies but at least he has the courage to stick to his beliefs unlike other politicians on the right or the left. I'm sorry you feel this way about me but maybe we can get past this. No hard feelings.

 

[AbbieDoobie]

Today makes 6000 dead innocent Americans.

Yeah, well, we have Darwin to thank for that.

~Abbie

 

[ROJO145]

This is all about getting the information out to people. Hopefully the right people.

Today makes 6000 dead innocent Americans.

Your continual manomona is really annoying and does nobody any good,THIS is a PRO mj community,go babble your bull on any multitude of political sites.
The fact that you continually blame Obama for these deaths that would occur regardless of any policy or who is in office only proves your stupidity.
I think you might have the wrong idea here,nobody here is arguing against medical mj,so the continued blatant LIES about who's Fault the daily deaths are in America are pointless.The WORD you keep trying to get out there,IS HERE ALREADY.......go spout it were it will do some good,and maybe get your facts straight in the meantime.

 

[Blue Dot]

from a google search this is what I came up with.
please post more statements.

“When it comes to medical marijuana, I have more of a practical view than anything else,” the Senator explained. “My attitude is that if it’s an issue of doctors prescribing medical marijuana as a treatment for glaucoma or as a cancer treatment, I think that should be appropriate because there really is no difference between that and a doctor prescribing morphine or anything else. I think there are legitimate concerns in not wanting to allow people to grow their own or start setting up mom and pop shops because at that point it becomes fairly difficult to regulate.”

I’m not familiar with all the details of the initiative that was passed [in Oregon] and what safeguards there were in place, but I think the basic concept that using medical marijuana in the same way, with the same controls as other drugs prescribed by doctors, I think that’s entirely appropriate. I would not punish doctors if it’s prescribed in a way that is appropriate. That may require some changes in federal law.”

I will tell you that - I want to be honest with you - whether I want to use a whole lot of political capital on that [laughs] when we’re trying to get health care passed or end the war in Iraq is, yeah, the likelihood of that being real high on my list is not likely.

“What I’m not going to be doing is using Justice Department resources to try to circumvent state laws on this issue simply because I want folks to be investigating violent crimes and potential terrorism. We’ve got a lot of things for our law enforcement officers to deal with.”

During a town hall meeting in Laconia, New Hampshire, on June 2, 2007, Sen. Obama was asked if he would continue the federal raids on medical marijuana patients and their caregivers. Sen. Obama responded:

"I don't think that should be a top priority of us, raiding people who are using ... medical marijuana. With all the things we've got to worry about, and our Justice Department should be doing, that probably shouldn't be a high priority."

On July 21, 2007 at a town hall meeting in Manchester, New Hampshire, a GSMM staffer asked Sen. Obama if he would end the raids. Sen. Obama replied:

"The Justice Department going after sick individuals using this as a palliative instead of going after serious criminals makes no sense."

Less then a month later, on August 13, while at a town hall meeting in Nashua, New Hampshire, he was asked by GSMM staffers if he agreed with the 81% of New Hampshire Democrats who believe that the federal government should end the raids on medical marijuana patients and caregivers. Sen. Obama responded:

"You know, it's really not a good use of Justice Department resources."

On August 21, during a campaign event in Nashua, New Hampshire, Sen. Obama was asked by GSMM volunteer and seriously ill Nashua resident Scott Turner if he would end the federal raids on medical marijuana patients like him. Sen. Obama replied:

"I would not have the Justice Department prosecuting and raiding medical marijuana users. It's not a good use of our resources."

 

[KMK0420]

DEA is a bunch of assholes. They are the bastards who deserve to lose their job in this economy. I'm sure if we as smokers/growers get Obama's attention and enough media attention, it will be addressed in one shape or form.

 

[kaotic]

Addenum to above as the edit function is not working for me. Obama did not steal the election but ACORN sure helped him along.

Sorry to everybody for getting so far off topic I won't say anything else about this.

 

[SrPlantManager]

I think it goes without saying, I am ALL FOR medical cannabis. It's already here, and spreading throughout the US. We all know this. Eventually the majority of states will endorse mmj without needing Obama's approval. I think once the majority of the US has done so, the rest will fall like dominos. Each year, each month there is growing amount of exposure to it, as well as acceptance. We are going on 14 states now that have enacted mmj or decriminalized. That leaves about a dozen to go.

With that said, mmj is a TREATMENT, nothing else. It gives people the choice of taking side-effect laden pharmaceuticals or herb to ease their pain, whatever it may be. While vaporizing and edible consumption is growing, it still only accounts for a very small segment of users seeking relief. Smoking IS currently the most popular way to use cannabis. With that being said, it's been shown that the 'Rick Simpson' method of cannabis oil (NOT hemp, as 'hemp' has little thc value) is a concetrated exctraction method that is ingested that's touted as a 'cure'. I'm not disagreeing with that, just stating that more research on a scientific level needs investigated to corroberate his (Rick Simpson's) findings.
Now,... I'm trying to think of the guys name that was on late night info-mercials selling his books touting 'natural cures' for many ailments, including caner. He got into a boatload of legal trouble with the goverment and the FDA because he used the word 'cure'. Now he's back doing books about how to get out of debt I believe it's with the IRS and credit card companies cheaply if not free. I hate it when I can't think of a name. Anyone know who I'm referring to? Well since the FDA and big pharma can't patent the cannabis plant, trying to pass it off publicly as a 'cure' for cancer and other ailments I believe will bring about the same legal ramifications as what Kevin Trudeau went through. (I knew I'd remember his name) So, in order to make THAT happen, I believe it will, after research confirms it's validity, need to be spread through the populous in an 'underground' fashion until a time that a large part of the US population is fully aware of not only the treatment of pain and other medicinal values of smoked/vaporized use, but the actual validity of cannabis oil as a cure for diabetes, glaucoma, multiple sclerosis, as well as the host of cancers. It's said that smoked cannabis, since burned, isn't the same as ingested cannabis oil as the body processes the cannibanoids that are ingested while smoking burns them away.
While the Rick Simpson story IS very compelling, I think it wise to do more research independently on the matter over just taking a youtube video for face value. Since at the moment, good thorough medical research is difficult as a direct result of cannabis' legality, the only alternative is for more and more people to try INDEPENDENTLY confirming this through their OWN research. If it turns out that across the country people find value to the claim, then push it through the underground market, same as cannabis has been done for years. After some time, when enough people see the real results, and there is monumental proof that cannabis oil does in fact cure cancer, the govt then would never be able to deny the use of it as a CURE.

Again, I challenge ANYONE that can make this 'cannabis oil' to do the research, and post their findings. If I were currently growing, it would be on the top of my growing agenda. I think the Rick Simpson story DOES merit at least the research to validate what could potentially be a KEY FACTOR that could actually help bring about legalization. I see nothing there to lose in all reality.

Anyone up for that challenge?

In the Simpson video, I believe it said he used Naptha to break down the trichomes to make the 'oil' but I'm sure there are other hashmaking processes that are a bit safer. I've never made hash or hash oil personally, so I'm not 'in the know' on that aspect of it, but I think it's worth experimenting with if there's anyone interested in trying it.

Who knows?

Nikola Tesla was scoffed at by the scientific community for years before JP Morgan himself funded Tesla's research on tranmitting electricity through the air. Guess who would be getting the last laugh today if he were still alive? That technology is HERE... NOW. Or so an MSN,com video was showing a few days ago.
(Although Morgan pulled his funding when he discovered there would be no way to regulate and sell it back years ago)

Sometimes chances just have to be taken to find out the truth. I think in this matter it's well worth delving into. Our govt sure isn't going to do it.

If it WERE confirmed and pushed through underground channels and enough American people were educated to the facts, our govt couldn't deny it then, as a majority of the public would already know the truth, many first-hand. It would be too late then to put the genie back in the bottle.


Just kickin' around a thought.

 

[joluvs2gro]

Man some of you are straight freaking racists clowns!! Mongoloid first of all refers to the race of peoples who trace their ancestry back to the East Asian part of the world - not really known for your terrorists homelands! You bunch of white sheeters would know that if you weren't listening to Rush Limbaugh and 700 Club all the time!!! As a country that has been the biggest abuser of human rights historically, we have an obligation to our own people who have voted in laws making torture of any kind illegal on foreign soldiers. Not just Mongoloids!! All soldiers! How can we ask to not have own troops tortured and when we not only do it but post the pics up on Youtube!! When Gitmo is closed it will not mean an influx of terrorists onto our soil, it means that most of the suspects will be moved to sites in other countries where we have much more secretive black op prisons that will never be plastered on television. They wont come here and hang out making the prisons targets!! Childish conclusions!

Way to use a sweeping generalizations to throw all the countries of the world together in one bunch!! They torture, beat their wives, oppress their people!!! Now that is some funny shit!! Until about a week ago the world was saying that about us!!! We torture - Waterboarding, bomb civilians!! We beat our women consistently in this country(where do you think the rule of thumb comes from?)!! Women only make up 1% of the upper management of fortune 500 companies here but are 64% of the country! And last I checked we oppress our own with the best of them. I still cant get on many of the golf courses in this county based on my skin - unless it is to clean up! I get profiled at the airport and just driving a car!! Look at our own indigenous Indian populations, immigrants, and even own citizen's!

Now lets look at the good ole boys running their mouth's here. Only one race in my country has ever chained a black man to a truck and drove down a county road until he had disintegrated across a 4 mile stretch! Only one group has hung people from trees to show how superior they were! The same group that made laws to acknowledge I was not more than a 1/4 human being until about 30 years ago, tried to stop me from getting that degree cause us niggers dont need no education to shine shoes boss!!! Those same people are here now trying to convince us that we voted for the wrong guy because he hasn't changed the world in 4 days!!! We know you dont care about his policies you are just enraged that a Black man is runnin the show!! Just like we didnt buy it from McPalin we will not be buying your tired old bush league rhetoric a few days after the guy hit office??!! Your time has come and gone racist white guys! It is over and the one thing you thought would never happen just did!! The same people you brought over here to build your Lincoln memorials and White House now run it!! Now it may take some time to get used to but I can guarantee you this. You will never have to worry about cops screwing with you for being White, be hung from a tree cause you looked at a woman, or have crosses burned in your yards for being Caucasoid!!! And last just because it is the net and we cant physically see you doesn't mean we cant read and see who is a pointy head on ICMAG!

Oh!! I voted for the Black guy that was beholden to me.

Exactly, the only reason people are even talking shit is because they are mad that a democrat won the election. I do not understand why so many people are getting down on obama. Bush didn't do anything to legalize mj and he was in office for 8 years, all he did was ran us into the worst deficit we've evr seen and the worst economy since the great depression. Then they wanna try to blame all this shit on the things that clinton did. I hate to rain on there parades but when bill was in office, everybody I know had a great job+excellent pot, even if it wasn't legal it was there.

 

[SrPlantManager]

lets hope he will stop the dea raid but beyond that there no chance in hell that marijuana will be decriminalized in any fashion

Noodles, decriminalization can take place on a state level that the feds would have a really hard time covering. Same as mmj. If the majority of cardholders grew small grows, the feds would be chasing their tails for years to come.

I all honesty, that's all Obama needs to do is end the fed raids. If he ties their hands, they wont really even be able to chase their own tails.



I doubt he'll be able to undo what the individual states have voted on as far as the dispenaries are concerned, just like Blue Sky pays the feds more than a half a million every year in taxes, and more than a 1/4 mil to the state yearly. To try to change that would be shooting themselves in the foot since it's so easy to grow.

As far as the 'Mexican Connection' goes,... if the buttarts would do their jobs at securing our borders, that issue would dwindle into nothing.

Allow the dispensaries to supply the med patients that can't/don't want to grow, they'll pay taxes just like Blue Sky and everyone should be happy. 'Cep'n them federalies... but with their hands tied, who gives two shits about THEM??? They'd be getting millions a year in taxes too! From EACH state that carries MMJ laws. Across the US that would make the feds humdreds of millions a year if not more.

If Obama doesn't end the fed raids, he's insuring he'll only be a 4 year well- suited desk puppet.


Regardless,... it's highly unlikely he'll undo any state-level cannabis reform.

I don't see what's so wrong with 'mom-and-pop' grow shops. They provide a damn good bit of tax revenue, and much more if more states would adopt MMJ.

Just more of my ramblings

 

[Rainman]

I want to apologize to all of you that think I am being unfair to whites in my discussion. I am not saying you individuals owned slaves or hang blacks! I am simply referring historically and recently to events that go on in our society today and have gone on for years. Now of course you individulas didn't own slaves but we are all a product of our history as Americans. Good and bad! We sit in judgment of the world but have a dirty home is my point. Yes it is easy to assume things about our fellow ICmaggers by their posts and that is not my intent either. I am simply enjoying this open forum about a good subject on my fav. site! I hope are to and not taking this too serious.
Back to Obama. I am not saying Obama doesn't have an incredible job ahead of him! Not since Roosevelt during the second world war has a President faced a more trying time while coming into office. All I want from this type of discussion is a fair shake for a guy that has been in office, dare I say it again, a total of 4 days! He has already spoken on state MMJ and his unwillingness to go against voters of those states. Now in my eyes that sounds like more than a fair start to any disccussion about the issue from a sitting president. Clinton wouldn't even allow the topic to be brought up. Bush! Well we already know so....I will be the first guy to stand up and say he is a turd if he doesn't hold true to his word on not just this issue, but many more. I voted for the guy because he more than any other candidate had well thought out solutions to issues that affect me. He didn't have a bucket list. He more than any candidate was able to articulate and speak in a way that I feel a president of my country should. Knows how to use technology! Do you think Palin or Mcbush knows how to work a Blackberry? Not the #1 skill I would look for from a President but it makes me feel a little better when I know he will have his hand on the real trigger! He wanted to repeal so many of the unconstitutional laws Bush put into place to spy on its own citezens(which he did the first day and I feel was a little more important than tackling the MMJ issue) Now that should be good news to Republicans and Dems across our nation! And lets just put it out there! The guy gives people hope, is a crazy good speaker, great dresser, good family man, and screw it I would take him in a fight with any other world leader out there!! The guy freakin has something! I dont know what it is and it will not make up for substance -- but he gots that charisma that the guy leading my freaking country should have! Quiet cool baby! And I am willing to at least give him a chance to screw up after the last 8 years of leadership.

And about this Messiah thing! Farrakan killed Malcolm X so black people listen to him about as much as we listen to country music. Anyone still listening to the guy should immediately step away from the crack pipe! Listen I am not the spokesperson for all things black on icmag but I would hope you out there in internet land would give us more credit than to be listening to him-- especially about a black leader.

 

[guest]

A few points about Rick Simpson.

He was convicted and fined $2000 for distribution of marijuana.

At his trial dozens of people came to testify. They came with their medical records and doctors to prove his claims.

Marijuana cures cancer.

If you haven't done so, please watch the entire presentation.

http://www.youtube.com/user/chrychek

It is in seven segments. Segment 4 shows how to make the extract. Segment 5 introduces you to former terminal cancer patients that are now cancer free.

 

[SoSincere]

Obama is the best chance we will ever have to getting mary jane decriminalized. This is a fact, so how could anyone talk negative about him. GIVE HIM SOME TIME. If he doesnt get it done, then it will NEVER happen. Have some hope people... hes already done "the impossible" by getting into office. I think he will do many more amazing things, that no other president ever had the balls to do. If he tried to mess with the weed laws already, conservatives would have a heart attack, he has to pull the mary jane move AFTER he's already proved himself and gained peoples trust in making big decisions. Only after the country's economics start to improve, can he meddle with such controversial issues. PATIENCE STONERS, WE ARE GETTING CLOSER

 

[Rainman]

PB - For real man! I know you are a passionate guy but to make these sweeping statements about cures and deaths makes you and by association all of us look a little off our rockers! So you are saying this guy has found the cure and no one including the pharmaceutical giants are working with it? Either we potheads are the smartest and most secretive bunch to ever hold such a vital secret or we have a case of crying wolf. How is it possible to have the cure but no one knows or has it but this guy? How many people has he killed by not allowing the world to know what he does on a large scale! He should be held to the same standards as Barak in your own weird logic! He has to be responsible for every single death related to cancer since he found the cure. So how many people has this guy killed since finding the cure? 20,000?, 40,000? That is alot of death to be tagged with. What about you PB? When did you first know of the cure? How many deaths have you caused by not doing more to reach all those with cancer? You may be a bigger murderer than our Prez.!

 

[B00st3d]

Man Im so sick of ppl callin Obama the first "black president" He's fuckin bi-racial, you know what that means? His momma is white! How you think she would feel bout ppl callin her son black that she carried for 9 months in her body. He's black and white, not black, not white but bi-racial. I agree with some of what rainman is saying but cmon now, he's not a "black man" just like tiger woods is not a "black man" If tiger woods were president would you be sayin he's our first asian president ? No youd say he's our second bi-racial president, get your facts straight!

 

[guest]

PB - For real man! I know you are a passionate guy but to make these sweeping statements about cures and deaths makes you and by association all of us look a little off our rockers! So you are saying this guy has found the cure and no one including the pharmaceutical giants are working with it? Either we potheads are the smartest and most secretive bunch to ever hold such a vital secret or we have a case of crying wolf. How is it possible to have the cure but no one knows or has it but this guy? How many people has he killed by not allowing the world to know what he does on a large scale! He should be held to the same standards as Barak in your own weird logic! He has to be responsible for every single death related to cancer since he found the cure. So how many people has this guy killed since finding the cure? 20,000?, 40,000? That is alot of death to be tagged with. What about you PB? When did you first know of the cure? How many deaths have you caused by not doing more to reach all those with cancer? You may be a bigger murderer than our Prez.!

The Rick Simpson video has been viewed, on Youtube, well over 200,000 times. In addition people have been making copies of the DVD and giving them away by the thousands. There is no way of knowing how many people he has given this information to free of charge.

While he was treating people, he gave away millions of dollars worth of marijuana extract. Every person that he treated was charged nothing at all.

As for me .. the main complaint from people is that I have a "in your face" method. It's rough. It's irritating. But it gets people to think.

How would you suggest that this information gets into mainstream?

Today makes 7500 innocent Americans dead or beyond help.

 

[bbing]

PB - For real man! I know you are a passionate guy but to make these sweeping statements about cures and deaths makes you and by association all of us look a little off our rockers! So you are saying this guy has found the cure and no one including the pharmaceutical giants are working with it? Either we potheads are the smartest and most secretive bunch to ever hold such a vital secret or we have a case of crying wolf. How is it possible to have the cure but no one knows or has it but this guy? How many people has he killed by not allowing the world to know what he does on a large scale! He should be held to the same standards as Barak in your own weird logic! He has to be responsible for every single death related to cancer since he found the cure. So how many people has this guy killed since finding the cure? 20,000?, 40,000? That is alot of death to be tagged with. What about you PB? When did you first know of the cure? How many deaths have you caused by not doing more to reach all those with cancer? You may be a bigger murderer than our Prez.!

knock it off Rain, where you taking this man? You know I respect what you say, however....
Heavy hitting Research Institutions are already on this. Tashkin study "suggests" neg corralation to lung cancer. Why haven't we heard more about this either way since it's initial publication?

When our municipal water supplies start metering "less than measurable" for mood adjusting pharma drugs, is when I may concede that their is no pharma interference.