HossCartwright
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I would agree that $200-$250oz for quality A grade meds is a fair price for a patient/caregiver exchange. Dispensaries obviously need to go a bit higher to cover their overhead, but they should cap at about $300-$350oz. IMO.
Why is medical marijuana so expensive?
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ShantiSadhu
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In a Private Prison making new "Friends"
NORML, THC-F and that bunch are making tons of money from Cannabis being illegal.
Listen to Jack Herer's Last Speech at Portland HempStalk. He knows the Truth.
If you think I'm feeding you Bullshit, Read this Article:
http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/jack-herer-s-hempire-under-siege
or listen to Jan Irvin himself at Gnostic Media
http://gnosticmedia.podomatic.com/entry/2009-12-14T09_41_27-08_00
NORML, THC-F and that bunch are making tons of money from Cannabis being illegal.
Listen to Jack Herer's Last Speech at Portland HempStalk. He knows the Truth.
If you think I'm feeding you Bullshit, Read this Article:
http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/jack-herer-s-hempire-under-siege
or listen to Jan Irvin himself at Gnostic Media
http://gnosticmedia.podomatic.com/entry/2009-12-14T09_41_27-08_00
Perhaps you misunderstand, marijuana should be legal FOR ANYONE AND EVERYONE. I don't care what you voted for, if you think it shouldn't be legal for everyone then you are wrong. I don't care what you have seen in a D. Don't patronize the dispensary. Simple really. That goes for pretty much your whole argument. Don't like the dispensary, don't go back to it. You have obviously found one that you like and so be it, thats GREAT FOR YOU. Send people to it, it all comes down to a dispensary providing the best product and service as to whether it will survive and thrive. However, what I am saying to you is that it is their decision how they run their business. You can say you think it should be done differently all you want but it doesn't make your words worth any more than the voice of your wallet. As to 215, I don't care about the intent of 215, it is a flawed bill in that it doesn't recognize that growing, smoking, eating, etc marijuana is a RIGHT not a privilege we are begging the state for. Are the acts you listed compassionate? No but neither is companies like BOA and Citi foreclosing on whole neighborhoods based upon ARMs that they never should have made in the first place. I don't see anything wrong with them doing so though. It is how they chose to run their businesses.
If you think ANYTHING isn't about money in one way or another you are missing the reality of our country.
ShantiSadhu
Member
a canadian problem is there are all these sick people with Health Canada Exemptions to smoke weed but they do not know how to grow or have no money to setup and also are not in the proper health to manage a grow opp. Although they are allowed to hire a designated grower. So if there where enablers out there who could help the sick with legal licenses by being their designated grower then maybe something could start to be done. The patient would get their dope, the grower would be legal now and the excess could spill back into the medical community.
OU812
Member
Craigslist? Crap pot?
LOL not here...
You do not need to be a "professional grower" to grow good meds. This is my first try. It'll only get better from here on out...using the genetics we need. Some of this will be donated back to the ONE collective that has been good to me to help other people.
OU812
Member
I agree it should be legal. My point (which you missed) is that Prop 215 was passed to help sick people. It's called the Compassionate Use Act.
Greedy people living large off of what was supposed to be a law to help sick people is the point I am making. The banks are not using a law like Prop 215 to further their goals, but they would if they could. I didn't just fall off of a turnip truck, but seeing how much greed and how little compassion is involved is what makes me sick.
I have to drive 80 miles each way to get to this cooperative, a lot of sick people can't do that. Can't afford the tank of gas it takes to get there.
Yes people do have the right to run a business as they see fit, but if they're doing it on the back of a law written to help sick people (flawed or not) to line their own wallets and nothing else, there is something wrong with that picture.
Peace.
HossCartwright
Member
I'm not surprised.
I would rather pay $250oz for grade A meds than smoke the free meds of most newbie growers who can't get ph/ppm equilibrium dialed in, over fertilize, don't flush, fast dry & don't cure.
OU812
Member
Wow, you sure seem to know a lot without knowing me or what I do/don't do...haven't you ever heard that assuming things isn't what wise people do?
FYI-
My pH is perfect, I used zero nutes until a couple of weeks ago, and then organic and only once. I've been flushing starting yesterday, and I don't care how long it takes to dry and cure properly. I'm in no hurry.
HossCartwright
Member
Why you making this so personal?
OU812
Member
HossCartwright
Member
Nobody is ragging on new growers, take a bong hit. I will too.
No it seems you are missing the point. You are breaking the law regardless. It is against federal law to grow, and or consume, possess, transport, etc marijuana. So you disobey bad law on the federal level but want us to obey it on a state level? No. Your argument comes down to the fact that you don't approve of how someone else is running a business. You disapprove of people making money off of people who are dying. Do dying people not pay for McDonalds or Wendy's? Do they not pay for the medication they need to live? Of course they pay. There is nothing wrong with people running their businesses how they want to. People thinking that they somehow gain the right to someone else's property is wrong. Is compassion a good thing? Yes. Will some Ds provide meds to dying members free of charge regardless of the intent of the flawed law you try to hide behind? Yes. There are good people everywhere, they are just harder to find than the rest. As to lining the pockets of D owners, I think we have heard from many people who worked in and around the D industry on these forums for a while about how things can be both good and bad but again, there is nothing wrong with lining your pockets from marijuana. Nothing wrong with making profit on it. In a legal market all these shady Ds that you see should disappear given that there are better ones to go to. Too bad that doesn't happen eh?
Dr. Smokepuma
Member
Once again, the object of the anger of these posters is understandable, but misdirected. The correct place to direct this anger is against the US Gov't. It is US Gov't idiocy that places restrictions that result in an inability for producers to take their business to a place where economies of scale will drive the price down. Further, the gov't should be paying for indigent patients' medical needs, and not picking and choosing which therapies it approves of. It is the gov't that should be paying for indigent patients medical needs, as defined by their doctor.
I wonder if anyone would object to Bill Gates paying full freight for medical cannabis were he a patient. If they think that Mr. Gates should be provided for at no cost simply because he was ill then I think they're nuts.
Anyone that thinks that a consistent, reliable supply of medicine is going to be provided by volunteers is dreaming. Were it so it would be so, because the presence of 'profiteers' hasn't prevented even one person who is inclined to do such charity work from doing so. Frankly, said profiteers may motivate people who are otherwise disinclined to help. 'Oh those profiteers piss me off. Someone has to step up to the plate and help the indigent sick'.
It is impossible to force someone to provide charity or volunteer work. It doesn't matter that you think there should be more charity or volunteers. The fact that the word 'compassionate' appears in the title of P215 is irrelevant.
B
Born420
In Amerikkka it is expensive. In some countries patients are given medical cannabis by people that are really compassionate. The way cannabis and medical cannabis are dealt with in Ameriakkka is just a refelction of Amerikkka. Travel the planet and see for yourself. Amerikkka is a war machine. Nothing more and nothing less. Therefore, the cannabis and medical cannabis policise by the USA and the individual states are set forth by a small group of mostly rich, mostly white, mostly corrupt, war mongers. It is what it is. This is not my opinion, it just is what it is. Facts. When typically these Amerikkkan bozo politicians decide which country to promulgate war upon next, they are also drafting cannabis policies that ultimately become the law. This is why cannabis and medical cannabis are so screwed up in Amerikkka, it's just a reflection.
It should be, the patient pays the caregiver/grower for the actual accrued expenses plus, a reasonable compensation for the persons time and efforts. THEN upon harvest, the caregiver/grower should hand off EVERY plant grown under the patients name to the patient.
Every bud grown under the patients name should be transferred directly to the patient, regardless of final harvest yield.
There shouldn't be any of this bartering over black market prices for 1/8 oz.
The plants are OWNED by the patient, who contracted another to grow for them.
If it takes $200 in energy and supplies plus $200 in time and effort to grow twelve plants under a patients name, those twelve plants, regardless of the yield should be transferred upon harvest to the patient upon receipt of the $400.
Lol. Thats all I can do when I read this post. There are plenty of compassionate people in this country which donate their time to help others in countless ways. Just because every D isn't like that doesn't mean there aren't those that are compassionate. The reason prices are as high as they are is a restriction of supply resulting from the current legal framework. Want cheaper meds? LEGALIZE IT!
Again, bad law. What you grow is yours. Fuck the system and any law that says otherwise.
