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Why is medical marijuana so expensive?

Owl Mirror

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Caregivers in Michigan think that 200.00 is some kind of bargain price. So you grow it for pts that already spent 150.00 to go to a Dr and get approved,then another 100.00 to the State for your card. Many ,if not most, of these pts are on disability or SSI.....and cannot afford this. So much for compassionate CGs. Nobody expects meds for free. But why gouge the very people that need it the most? BTW legal card holders can purchase the meds from wherever they want to. They are legal but the seller unless they are a CG,is not.CGs pay nothing to the state to grow,they just find pts,up to 4,and are able to grow 12 plants per pt. JJ you sound like a responsible CG to me.

:wave: HI Mary !
 

BIOJenn

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back to the prices!
still 20-25 a gram and 50-60-70 for an 1/8 here in colorado..$70-1/8th for outdoor tumbled crap is crazy when i can get topnotch nuggs off the street for 40-50 an 1/8.

at $25 per gram thats >>> $11,200 per pound ..then they have the nerve to say well we are paying $4000lb and we make little profit off of patients. any1 shop making 11,200 per LB should be shut down! 7,200 profit off a pound is crazy..if i had 3 lbs and sold grams i would not need to work for the rest of the year.
 

JJScorpio

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What I get a kick out of is before there was MM laws for some states, the big argument was what it cost a patient for meds from a doctor. The proponents were saying the Parm Companies were charging patients 400 a month for meds and the patient couldn't afford it. Now that it's legal the growers are charging more per month for the bud to these patients and not thinking nothing of it.

If a patient uses 2 ounces a month, and that's probably on the light side it's costing them 800 to 1000 for their bud meds.

Who's the fucking thief now? Their isn't much lower of a scumbag than someone who would take advantage of a truly sick person that is in pain. Compassion my ass....
 

Hydrosun

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It sounds to me that most CG are circumventing the Law here. I think the most responsible and legal way for this to be accomplished would be for the patient and CG to agree on a price per grow. Be it 5 ounces or 2 pounds, the CG would be paid for the grow and the patient would own the plants. I don't see it being legal for the CG to hold the finished product and sell ounces to the patient. That's where the commercial aspect again gets mixed up with the CG aspect....

You are almost getting there. WE ARE ALL CIRCUMVENTING THE LAW, I am sure you are aware that it is illegal to grow, posses, or consume marijuana.

Gonzales v. Raich, case no. 03-1454
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/06/scotus.medical.marijuana/

The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday ruled doctors can be blocked from prescribing marijuana for patients suffering from pain caused by cancer or other serious illnesses.

So since ANY MMJ caregiver is violating federal law your premise of "doing this legally" and "being legally protected" is fatally flawed. Now if ANY free person decides to grow a weed on their own property they are a friend of mine, but I have no right to tell that person what to do with or how much to charge for what THEY produced. If they charge $.01 or $100 per gram it is none of my business.

I believe in being honorable and living up to my agreements and commitments but whether or not I am a caregiver and how any patients and I arrange our affairs is our business.

As many on ICmag have come to know amazing quality weed is not $20 per gram, it is free and takes only watching plants for 5 min a day.

Peace, :joint:
 

funkfingers

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There are co-ops that provide free medicine to terminally ill people, I think you just have to take the good with the bad and the bad will weed itself out eventually. Fwiw there are several clubs in colorado that will give you medicine at black market prices or lower, some have better quality than others, but that's no different from picking and choosing on the black market.
 

JJScorpio

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You are almost getting there. WE ARE ALL CIRCUMVENTING THE LAW, I am sure you are aware that it is illegal to grow, posses, or consume marijuana.

Gonzales v. Raich, case no. 03-1454
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/06/scotus.medical.marijuana/

The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday ruled doctors can be blocked from prescribing marijuana for patients suffering from pain caused by cancer or other serious illnesses.

So since ANY MMJ caregiver is violating federal law your premise of "doing this legally" and "being legally protected" is fatally flawed. Now if ANY free person decides to grow a weed on their own property they are a friend of mine, but I have no right to tell that person what to do with or how much to charge for what THEY produced. If they charge $.01 or $100 per gram it is none of my business.

I believe in being honorable and living up to my agreements and commitments but whether or not I am a caregiver and how any patients and I arrange our affairs is our business.

As many on ICmag have come to know amazing quality weed is not $20 per gram, it is free and takes only watching plants 5 for min a day.

Peace, :joint:

You can ride that 5 minutes a day for all it's worth. It only shows what side of the fence your ass sits.

Many here will agree with me when I say you can grow a pound of great bud for under a couple hundred a pound. And that includes lights, power, soil and the works. On a 5 pound grow you can take that figure up to 400 a pound and that allows 1500 for the labor aspect. But if you need to pretend it costs a grand a pound or more to grow quality bud, then feel free to do so. Perception is each persons reality.....
 

kmk420kali

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My initial question on why MM was so expensive was regarding the 20 to 30 a G and 60 dollar eighths that dispensories are charging in Cali. I didn't know caregivers in other States were also getting caught up in the street price of bud.

At least down here, there are many Dispensaries that have a $50 cap on 1/8's...others provide many strains for $40-$45--
Most give discounts for seriously ill/terminal Patients--
But the bottom line is, if a Dispensary was to have $20 eighths of OG Kush, that would be great for the seriously ill, admittedly...but they are a very small percentage of the Patients-- Most would buy it up at that price, and sling it back to the streets for double--
Besides...if someone can't afford top shelf....maybe they should move down a shelf or 2....most of the D's that have $60/$70 eighths...also have the $40 ones--
Don't buy Beck's when you can only afford Natty Light--:2cents:
 

Owl Mirror

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Besides...if someone can't afford top shelf....maybe they should move down a shelf or 2

So now we are providing meds based upon a persons financial ability and not what helps them?
I suppose poor people deserve to suffer in pain since they didn't make more money when they had the chance, before getting sick ?

You sound just like the Republicans who say people without health insurance should be happy they can go to the emergency room for their health care needs.
 

Hydrosun

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You know where my ASS sits and yeah I mentioned it (5 min) twice. Once being pissed and once to be an ASS and bring things back around to reality and shine some light on your bias.

I asked for a little light and learning from a mentor. I said I am only getting .5grms per square foot per day and would like to improve.

If someone can pull a lb of bud for less than $200 in power bill alone please speak up.

Your logic also states that a caregiver should be compensated for their labor, but not too much, because that would be cruel. So what is wrong with an arms length transactions between two self interested economic actors?

Do we really need any government or social group commenting on or regulating the behavior of the two individuals above in my hypothetical example?

Who are you to say what my labor is worth, how about the use of MY property? Where did you get the right or moral authority to regulate my conduct? If I chose to take a huge risk by violating federal law and enter into a grower / consumer relationship, should I have to do that for minimum wage, the poverty line, or some number YOU think is RIGHT? I can be the biggest douche bag attorney in the world and charge $300 an hour and bill 80 hours a week or $24,000 a week and assholes like that are celebrated by this sick society, but you want to throw judgment around on people who grow plants and fight the system. That is what I think is F.U.S.

Peace, :joint:

PS I really would love to get more per square foot day and dollar spent on the electric company, suggestions welcomed.
 

Owl Mirror

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PS I really would love to get more per square foot day and dollar spent on the electric company, suggestions welcomed.

Build an alternative energy system ?

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Hydrosun

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So now we are providing meds based upon a persons financial ability and not what helps them?
I suppose poor people deserve to suffer in pain since they didn't make more money when they had the chance, before getting sick ?

You sound just like the Republicans who say people without health insurance should be happy they can go to the emergency room for their health care needs.

There is no WE providing meds to me. I grow them myself or buy them. Did I miss a change of economic law.

I have a NEED for a Ferrari, but WE haven't provided it to ME yet! WTF how am I supposed to get what I NEED all by myself?

People with out health insurance should have money in their pocket or a personal relationship with a Dr. or fix themselves. You if you are a Dr. you should not be taken out of your home at the point of a gun to provide services to anyone, nor should you order that your neighbor be forced to labor for you.

What ever happened to personal integrity and responsibility?
Peace, :joint:
 

danut

Member
And as always .. this topic always leads to endless name calling.

To give is divine.
To require giving is slavery.
 

kmk420kali

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So now we are providing meds based upon a persons financial ability and not what helps them?
I suppose poor people deserve to suffer in pain since they didn't make more money when they had the chance, before getting sick ?

You sound just like the Republicans who say people without health insurance should be happy they can go to the emergency room for their health care needs.

No man, please show me where I said someone had to suffer in pain??
If you cannot afford the top shelf, then buy the cheaper stuff...it still does the same thing, if you are using it for medical reasons--
I am not saying buy shitty weed...there are many decent strains out there in the clubs that are very much cheaper than the top shelf meds....I was just saying that would be a good way to start--
Don't bother trying to insult me by saying I sound like so and so....I won't bite-- I am not demeaning anybody...only stating my opinion and joining in on a discussion...no need to get mad--:yeahthats
 

Owl Mirror

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If you cannot afford the top shelf, then buy the cheaper stuff...it still does the same thing, if you are using it for medical reasons

Is this speculation on your part or do you have first hand knowledge that "it still does the same thing, if you are using it for medical reasons" ? Are you indicating that the top shelf being supplied by the dispensaries is being used for other reasons besides medical applications?
 

danut

Member
Is this speculation on your part or do you have first hand knowledge that "it still does the same thing, if you are using it for medical reasons" ? Are you indicating that the top shelf being supplied by the dispensaries is being used for other reasons besides medical applications?
Obviously these folks are nothing but a bunch of law breakers ..

Good job. You uncovered a den of criminals.

How will you proceed now?
 

Hydrosun

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Obviously these folks are nothing but a bunch of law breakers ..

Good job. You uncovered a den of criminals.

How will you proceed now?

I guess I'll just keep growing and hope to forgive myself someday, but I'm sure I'll come to my senses and do something "useful" with my life by the time I'm 90.

Peace, :joint:
 

Babbabud

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If you dont smoke the top shelf every day the mid grade will work just as well. Its only when yoiu build up a tollerance that the mid grades wont seem strong enough. If you dont have the money just go for a mid grade. I smoked mex for years that gets me higher then some of the early pulled weed ppl grow at home.
 

kmk420kali

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Is this speculation on your part or do you have first hand knowledge that "it still does the same thing, if you are using it for medical reasons" ? Are you indicating that the top shelf being supplied by the dispensaries is being used for other reasons besides medical applications?

No, I am saying that the reason a particular strain may be top shelf varies...the quality/potency is not the only determination--
Trainwreck is cheaper than Kush...but will still get you medicated just fine--
If you NEED Kush for your ailment...then buy the cheaper, looser buds, instead of the manicured top shelf--
I am not arguing that many ppl need meds and can't afford them, just that there are ways to do it cheaper...like not getting the most expensive thing in the store--
 

kmk420kali

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Is this speculation on your part or do you have first hand knowledge that "it still does the same thing, if you are using it for medical reasons" ? Are you indicating that the top shelf being supplied by the dispensaries is being used for other reasons besides medical applications?

To answer your question....yes, first hand knowledge-- I am a commercial grower, and also a Patient--
I provide some of my friends with free meds...but I don't give them the best I have....and they don't expect that....my buddy with MS is very happy with looser buds...and says it works great-- I give him all he wants for free...but when he feels like smoking the better stuff...he has no problem buying it--
 

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