Vegan Organics with Professor Matt Rize
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Rize Veganics and Soil Biology
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Hey, just getting to read the thread. I would like to start a whole conversation on inoculant products, as this is a large part of my system. I might get hated on some more for talking about store bought products... but more fuel for the fire.
Inoculants I've been working with:
Root Web from bountea
HN: myco madness
HN: white widow
great white
plant success (generic myco product)
teas, of course, but that is another conversation...
I've found that since switching to vegan organics, my root balls are more dense with roots than ever before. Not exactly peer reviewed evidence
post edit: and Mayan microzyme
Rize Veganics and Soil Biology
Hey, just getting to read the thread. I would like to start a whole conversation on inoculant products, as this is a large part of my system. I might get hated on some more for talking about store bought products... but more fuel for the fire.
Inoculants I've been working with:
Root Web from bountea
HN: myco madness
HN: white widow
great white
plant success (generic myco product)
teas, of course, but that is another conversation...
I've found that since switching to vegan organics, my root balls are more dense with roots than ever before. Not exactly peer reviewed evidence
post edit: and Mayan microzyme
Matt Rize
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Oh man, stoners should be more chill than this
Oh man, stoners should be more chill than this
By biofilm I mean a biological film. Really getting things twisted.
Oh man, stoners should be more chill than this
By biofilm I mean a biological film. Really getting things twisted.
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Matt Rize
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You may have a good source...
You may have a good source...
you are lucky, i can't tell the rest of the world to use it because they may not be so lucky. thanks, glad to know someone has "that good shit".
You may have a good source...
you are lucky, i can't tell the rest of the world to use it because they may not be so lucky. thanks, glad to know someone has "that good shit".
Matt Rize
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Yeah, all I said was they were analyzing indoor Cannabis, which they are, along with edibles and concentrates ect. And you jump on some BS right away. Smoke some indica homie. YOU NEED TO RELAX
I guess testing Cannabis in a lab doesn't make you a "Cannabis testing lab" according to you... lol
And it is not downtown at all, it is right across the bridge from Harborside.
Post edit: 66 cannabinoids and counting. science is not set in stone. time will tell, my guess... hundreds.
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If you read more carefully...
If you read more carefully...
you will read that they suspended me for running all night GC/MS trials... way to empty tanks real quick lol
I never claimed to be quantifying cannabinoids. You simply assumed that and then threw a tantrum when I did not respond instantly. You need to chill. That wasn't even an approved project, but the TAs were really into it so we got to find the peaks we were looking for. That was many many moons ago.
My real project was on a toxic millipede secretion. The secret project was multiple bubble hash infusions running in the GC/MS using multiple solvents.
If you read more carefully...
you will read that they suspended me for running all night GC/MS trials... way to empty tanks real quick lol
I never claimed to be quantifying cannabinoids. You simply assumed that and then threw a tantrum when I did not respond instantly. You need to chill. That wasn't even an approved project, but the TAs were really into it so we got to find the peaks we were looking for. That was many many moons ago.
My real project was on a toxic millipede secretion. The secret project was multiple bubble hash infusions running in the GC/MS using multiple solvents.
hi again matt, im still not liking the way you are quoting me yet heavily editing what you are quoting. the 'quote' from me you posted above (post 186) actually read like this - you edited all the bits that you didnt want to respond to out, and misrepresented what i said in the process
just a little heads up here, these few links u posted (in#170,171,172) arnt working on my end
http://www.vegansociety.com/lifestyl...gardening.aspx
http://www.friendsofanimals.org/acti.../veganics.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/30/wo...11200&emc=eta1
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...14_arctic.html
http://planet.earthclinic.com/garden...ertilizer.html
http://www.funtrivia.com/en/subtopic...no-309829.html
HTH
http://www.vegansociety.com/lifestyl...gardening.aspx
http://www.friendsofanimals.org/acti.../veganics.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/30/wo...11200&emc=eta1
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...14_arctic.html
http://planet.earthclinic.com/garden...ertilizer.html
http://www.funtrivia.com/en/subtopic...no-309829.html
HTH
Matt Rize has said the following;
He has also, as I recall, said that it is OMRI certified. On the OMRI website is a posted restriction on using these BioCanna products due to synthetic ingredients. These products are only to be used following a specific soil or tissue test showing (micro)nutrient deficiencies. Check for yourself. http://www.omri.org/simple-opl-search/results/Canna
I gave Matt Rize full opportunity to address my questions and concerns about this product. (Perhaps there is an innocent explanation) When he did not and I reminded him, he asked which post number it was (as if he did not know). CT Guy gave him this information and I believe Capt reposted my questions but Matt Rize still did not accept the opportunity to respond.
I can only recommend that these products should NOT be used in an organic program due to the inference by OMRI of synthetic compound ingredients.
Because these products are "the backbone of veganics" I suppose this particular veganics program has no backbone.
He has also, as I recall, said that it is OMRI certified. On the OMRI website is a posted restriction on using these BioCanna products due to synthetic ingredients. These products are only to be used following a specific soil or tissue test showing (micro)nutrient deficiencies. Check for yourself. http://www.omri.org/simple-opl-search/results/Canna
I gave Matt Rize full opportunity to address my questions and concerns about this product. (Perhaps there is an innocent explanation) When he did not and I reminded him, he asked which post number it was (as if he did not know). CT Guy gave him this information and I believe Capt reposted my questions but Matt Rize still did not accept the opportunity to respond.
I can only recommend that these products should NOT be used in an organic program due to the inference by OMRI of synthetic compound ingredients.
Because these products are "the backbone of veganics" I suppose this particular veganics program has no backbone.
just felt the need to qoute ct guy
lookd in my local hydroshark mag and found 35$ for a 4oz bottle of greatwhite & 45$ for for 8oz of humboldts mycro blast.
id stick w/ my 6$ bagy of souble powder mycrogrow (whos founder and president is paul stamets) anyday, witch will inoculant me 125–250 plants with beneficials.
these inoculants matt has worked with all seem to come directly from the shinny label pushrs.
lookd in my local hydroshark mag and found 35$ for a 4oz bottle of greatwhite & 45$ for for 8oz of humboldts mycro blast.
id stick w/ my 6$ bagy of souble powder mycrogrow (whos founder and president is paul stamets) anyday, witch will inoculant me 125–250 plants with beneficials.
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Matt Rize- interesting read on trimming, i'm a new grower who was really excited to trim the first time...8 hours later, eyes itching since i touched em with resin fingers, hungry, i thought damn this is manual labor no wonder people pay to have it done.
Earlier you posted about people being able to buy products if they live on a top floor apartment, and work all day, have kids, etc.. I think that if a busy person you describe can look into bokashi, and vermi-composting, they'll realize it actually saves time and money, plus takes up minimal space. It's a moot point to claim something 'vegan', if the transport, advertising, and use causes environmental destruction. It's called green-washing and it's everywhere these days.
spurr- you're microbeman's brother from another mother. thanks for the great posts..not many dimwits in this thread.
pointing out when someone is wrong is not hating, do scientists say to each other when a discovery is made "dam stop hatin on my experiments yo"plus the name BIOCANNA is f-in corny...
Earlier you posted about people being able to buy products if they live on a top floor apartment, and work all day, have kids, etc.. I think that if a busy person you describe can look into bokashi, and vermi-composting, they'll realize it actually saves time and money, plus takes up minimal space. It's a moot point to claim something 'vegan', if the transport, advertising, and use causes environmental destruction. It's called green-washing and it's everywhere these days.
spurr- you're microbeman's brother from another mother. thanks for the great posts..not many dimwits in this thread.
pointing out when someone is wrong is not hating, do scientists say to each other when a discovery is made "dam stop hatin on my experiments yo"plus the name BIOCANNA is f-in corny...
Matt Rize
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Thanks, Scientist actually do "call each other haters"
Thanks, Scientist actually do "call each other haters"
In fact, the scientific community is often divided over ideas, facts, and truth. And some of the most heated (name calling) arguments can be found in the scientific field. Nerds can hate too.
Thanks, Scientist actually do "call each other haters"
Matt Rize- interesting read on trimming, i'm a new grower who was really excited to trim the first time...8 hours later, eyes itching since i touched em with resin fingers, hungry, i thought damn this is manual labor no wonder people pay to have it done.
pointing out when someone is wrong is not hating, do scientists say to each other when a discovery is made "dam stop hatin on my experiments yo"plus the name BIOCANNA is f-in corny...
In fact, the scientific community is often divided over ideas, facts, and truth. And some of the most heated (name calling) arguments can be found in the scientific field. Nerds can hate too.
Yes, Spurr is my brother. How did you guess?
Matt Rize
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D'oh, missed that. You get the point though, and a little searching will bring you to the right url. Thanks for commenting on the links. These are not peer reviewed papers, but it is nice to hear why others have chosen to drop the poop, and go all plant.
It would appear that the company that you're shilling for missed both the 'scientific community' as well as the 'scientific field' by about 5 exits off the Interstate.
Probably more.........
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And again, if only Canna paid me...
And again, if only Canna paid me...
I would have some more money, or at least free nutes. But they don't. Paranoid delusions may be a result of cannabinoid saturation and lack of REM...
And again, if only Canna paid me...
I would have some more money, or at least free nutes. But they don't. Paranoid delusions may be a result of cannabinoid saturation and lack of REM...
Not really. I have almost all of their published work on an iPod and an iPad.and lack of REM...
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