yeah, I remember polio, specially its vaccines... which thanks to them we have a 'lil something called AIDS.
lol... cause of all the monkeys we vaccinated?
yeah, I remember polio, specially its vaccines... which thanks to them we have a 'lil something called AIDS.
Then you remember the iron lungs, the leg braces,the wheelchairs and the fear our parents felt for us before the vaccine.yeah, I remember polio, specially its vaccines... which thanks to them we have a 'lil something called AIDS.
There is no link... there is no vaccine conspiracy... there is NO depopulation conspiracy...
lol... cause of all the monkeys we vaccinated?
gomer, I highly doubt they remember any of it, prolly more like 'read about it'Then you remember the iron lungs, the leg braces,the wheelchairs and the fear our parents felt for us before the vaccine.
The oral polio vaccine (OPV) AIDS hypothesis argues that the AIDS pandemic originated from live polio vaccines prepared in chimpanzee tissue cultures and then administered to up to one million Africans between 1957 and 1960 in experimental mass vaccination campaigns.[1][2]
Data from molecular biology and phylogenetic studies contradict the OPV AIDS hypothesis; consequently, scientific consensus regards the hypothesis as disproven,[3][4][5][6] with an article in the journal Nature describing the hypothesis as "refuted".[7]
The OPV AIDS hypothesis has been examined and criticized by members of the scientific and medical communities as being unsupported or directly contradicted by available data, and inconsistent with HIV epidemiology.
In the August 1992 Science, Koprowski, replying to a letter in Science by Tom Curtis, repudiated the OPV AIDS hypothesis, pointing to multiple errors of fact.[29]
In October 1992, the journal Science ran a story titled "Panel Nixes Congo Vaccine as AIDS source," describing the findings of an independent panel which found each proposed step in the OPV-AIDS hypothesis "problematic". The story concluded that:
...it can be stated with almost complete certainty that the large polio vaccine trial... was not the origin of AIDS.[30]
btw, I never got a polio shot, nor many others. Just like tons of people all over the world who are born daily and do not get any vaccines and grow up healthy.
Osterrieth has denied these claims and stated that this work would not have been possible in this laboratory,[27][28] stating that:
at no time did I ever attempt to make cell cultures from chimpanzee tissues. In addition, I wish to state categorically that no poliovaccine was ever produced or could have been produced in Stanleyville, since the facilities were totally inadequate for the production or control of poliovaccine.[20]
In his book, Hooper also stated that Gaston Ninane was involved in using chimpanzee cells to produce vaccine in Congo. Ninane responded to this allegation by stating that he could "categorically deny" ever having tried to make tissue cultures from chimpanzee cells.[11] The people involved in vaccine production and distribution from America state that no vaccine was prepared locally in Congo and that only the CHAT vaccine from America was used. Barbara Cohen, the technician who was responsible for running the American laboratory that produced this vaccine stated:
At no time did I ever receive or work on chimpanzee kidneys, nor to my knowledge cells derived from chimpanzees. I never made, nor do I know of anyone in the lab who made polio vaccine in chimpanzee cells.[20]
you think they are going to accept the responsibility of their fuck-ups? if you think culturing vaccines in tissue that is contaminated will result in clean vaccines, then why don't you also believe climate change deniers?
The oldest confirmed sample of human tissue that shows the presence of HIV-1 is an archival sample of plasma collected from an anonymous donor in the city of Leopoldville, Belgian Congo (now Kinshasa) in 1959.[32] Initial phylogenetic analyses, published in 1999, led the researchers to hypothesise that HIV-1 entered, "into the African population not long before 1959."
In 2000, the Royal Society held a meeting to discuss data on the origin of AIDS; the OPV AIDS hypothesis was a central topic of discussion.[33] At this meeting, three independent labs released the results of tests on the remaining stocks of Koprowski's vaccine, which Edward Hooper had demanded in The River. The tests confirmed Koprowski's contention that his vaccine was made from monkey, rather than chimpanzee, kidney, and found no evidence of SIV or HIV contamination... ...Additional epidemiologic and phylogenetic data was presented at the conference which undermined other aspects of the OPV AIDS hypothesis; according to a report in Science, Hooper "did not challenge the results; he simply dismissed them.
The author of one of the studies, evolutionary biologist Edward Holmes of Oxford University, commented in light of the new evidence: "Hooper's evidence was always flimsy, and now it's untenable. It's time to move on."[5] An accompanying editorial in Nature concluded:
The new data may not convince the hardened conspiracy theorist who thinks that contamination of OPV by chimpanzee virus was subsequently and deliberately covered up. But those of us who were formerly willing to give some credence to the OPV hypothesis will now consider that the matter has been laid to rest.[44]
The possibility that chimpanzees found near Kisangani in the Democratic Republic of Congo (formerly Stanleyville) were, indirectly, the true source of HIV-1 was directly addressed in a 2004 study published in Nature. Here, the authors found that while SIV was present in chimpanzees in the area, the strain of SIV infecting these chimpanzees was phylogenetically distinct from all strains of HIV, providing direct evidence that these particular chimps were not the source of HIV in humans.[7]
I don't believe Climate Change deniers for the same reason I do not believe the polio vaccine caused AIDS... the science...
funny that you mention it...
Thinking AIDS came from vaccines and denying climate change seem to have a lot in common... both require one to suspend a belief in science in favor of unsubstantiated theory.
anyway, the facts are the facts, the parties responsible for the contamination of the vaccines have been proven to be so, all your claims of denying it come from "studies" funded by the responsible parties, go figure.
The new data may not convince the hardened conspiracy theorist who thinks that contamination of OPV by chimpanzee virus was subsequently and deliberately covered up. But those of us who were formerly willing to give some credence to the OPV hypothesis will now consider that the matter has been laid to rest.