Looks like I spoke too soon about the homology of these respectfully different phenotypes. But, these are good representations of the extreme expressions.
the taller expression has these reddish petioles, long pre-flower stigma ...
The stocky shorter expression has green petioles, real short thin stigma, a symmetrical leaf pattern with cool little devil horns ...
Is greener than the others ...
and has shorter side shoots at the node.
Also, the shorter one is/was a lot slower to show it's pre-flowers.
The cramped quarters is starting to take it's toll on the plants. The yellowing and what not. the cups are drying out in a half a day may also be why the taller one seems to be flowering at a quicker rate than the shorter one. I will continue bottom feeding and add more liquid fish to their water.
I'm achieving what I wanted to none the less, Just to check out these beans ... I'm going to drive this bus till the wheels fall off ... hopefully I'll get to sample some flowers.
if those were transplanted at the correct time into 1/2 gallon or gallon containers.. they might have not stretched like that..
just so u know.. keeping them in small pots .. makes them rootbound.. means a lot of genetics might start autoflowering.. making it a bitch to reveg and flower them out...
I start stuff in smaller cups then that if I don't have space.. then transplant them a few times.. to keep them nice and healthy.. and stocky instead of leggy.
this was the last picture of the first set... before I culled all of them.
Some of them were looking really good and smelling fantastic, I just don't think they liked the small digs.
then I started 30 more ... and out of those 30 I kept one. This one smelled like a bowl of fruit right from the first set of true leaves. it's outside on the porch. It should flower soon, so we'll see how it goes.
I got to admit, since I have so many of these seeds I was just looking for something that stood out early ... If you think I should do another round of seeds and finish them all I will.
Also, I had in the back of my mind that I didn't want to spend too much time on those, that I wanted to keep my space clear for these clones ...
those are my pheno of the SSSDH x Jack ix.
I guess I should update more often then, huh.
thanks for posting DF, it's always nice to see you around.
i never have been able to cull very heavily. last year, i let some plants go too long & didn't have a warm space to finish flowering them in the late fall/early winter. tough for me to let them down like that ~soft-hearted; lol
Yeah, I always feel like the plants are from my own loins...my kids - how do you put down a child?!?!
But, I have learned, at times - when you are sitting on several hundred of something and sorting 50 at a time - you really have to know what you are looking for and where you want the line to progress. If you have a vision - and a plant is outside that ideal - we'll, time and space being precious - it's easier to hack them down and get the next 50 soaking...
it wasn't easy. The thought "this one could be awesome!" goes through my head with every little plant. especially when I cut one down and it's got a little hollow stem so I smell it's remains, and they smell awesome.
I get a little bit of solace out of knowing every thing gets utilized, run back through to the soil.
You know...if you do that and have a moment of regret - I always take a clone of that one...as it's not to late at that point. And if the cuts make it, well, it fought for life in the last second and it earned it's right to be seen...hahahaha.
Great looking compost pile for sure. That's that good stuff!
More about my "living mulch" ... Pilea microphylla also known as Artillery Plant, Gunpowder Plant or brilhantina is an annual plant native to Florida. The plant belongs to the Urticaceae family. It has light green, almost succulent, stems and tiny 1/8" leaves which contribute to its other nickname, "Artillery Fern", though it is not related to ferns. It is grown as a ground cover in many areas. The common name is derived from the forcefully ejected pollen from the rather inconspicuous flowers on this brittle and succulent plant. Male flowers explosively discharge pollen into the air, hence the common name of artillery plant.
nice info on the ground cover, i was going to ask what it is.
i really want to get back to organic soil grown meds but im undecided on recycling and re-amending the soil or try a no till method. maybe next year i make the change.
Xmo's it's always a pleasure to see you, sir ; Yep I've got worms. got to love them. that's why I keep my pile on the ground... that, and the native micro flora.
sometimes I think about how I'm loosing nutrients into the ground through leech/runoff but, when I think of the benefits direct contact with the Earth offers ... to me they out weigh the potential loses.
Morcheeba* sup brother.
I don't know if I could grow any other way. Organics is just so easy. except when I burnt the sh8 out of my plants with alfalfa. but, other than that...
Mostly I recycle and re-amend, I try to be to-till. I re-amend my dirt, mix it all up, then let them sit for a while so the fungal hypha and different microbes have a chance to lock all the dirt into place ... but, in containers I just don't quite get it yet how to re-amend a no-til while the dirt is still in the containers.
I mean I can wrap my brain around no-til in an agricultural setting. big machines laying over cover crops that allowed to naturally decay where they're lay but, with containers ... I just haven't figured it out yet enough to be comfortable.
I've totally stopped using any kind of aeration amendment though. when the dirt sits long enough, I don't need it. they drain great with or without it.
I just realized I don't have an image of the cutting I'm growing ...
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anyways, great to see you guys. you're an inspiration to me to get off my ass and start documenting my going ons.