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acespicoli

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Corey x DMT.. Ill prob hit 1 of these with THHx P41 pollen..They all look identical. I do like the plant in the last pic the most. These are solid Afgh genetics.. All are less t han 15" tall,
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These have that good indoor easily dwarfed traits ?
Does it branch much or one main stem indoors min veg cycle?
Looks like theres some frost in there how many weeks?

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Really should have shared this earlier in the thread...first few posts
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Joe had some interesting stories
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Photo by Jake
 
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This rides just getting started 80s skunk
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Key to four varieties of C. sativa subsp. indica1​


1.Plants usually with a THC/CBD ratio ≥7; terpenoid profile usually lacks sesquiterpene alcohols, fresh aroma often pleasant. Plants ≥ 2 m tall in good habitats; branches flexible, diverging from the shoot at a relatively acute angle (<45° from vertical). Fresh leaves medium green in color; central leaflets narrow (length/width usually >6), lanceolate to linear-lanceolate; margins with fine to coarse serrations, sometimes biserrate. Mature female inflorescence somewhat compact (flowering stems producing small to medium “buds”), with relatively obscure sugar leaves (a high perigonal bract-to-leaf index); sugar leaves with capitate-stalked glandular trichomes (CSGTs) usually limited to the proximal half of the leaves; perigonal bracts express a moderate to high density of CSGTs. Mature achene exocarp color (beneath the perianth) often green-brown.
ATHC/CBD ratio always ≥7, often much more. Mature achenes usually ≥ 3.6 mm long (Fig. 3e, f); perianth mostly sloughed off, but often persistent in places (appearing as irregular spots or stripes); exposed exocarp exhibiting prominent venation; lacking a prominent protuberant base; not readily disarticulating from plant var. indica (“Sativa” in the historical sense2)
BTHC/CBD ratio usually ≥7, sometimes less. Mature achenes usually <3.6 mm long (Fig. 3g, h); perianth persistent (covering exocarp and its venation), with strong pigmentation in a mottled or striped pattern; with a protuberant base; readily disarticulating from plant var. himalayensis
2.Plants with a THC/CBD ratio <7; terpenoid profile includes sesquiterpene alcohols, fresh aroma often acrid or “skunky.” Plants < 2 m tall in good habitats, and often ca. 1 m; branches not flexible, branching sometimes nearly 90° from the stalk axis, producing a menorah-shaped habitus. Fresh leaves dark green in color, leaflets of larger leaves sometimes overlap; central leaflets broad (length/width usually <6), often oblanceolate; margins with coarse serrations, rarely biserrate. Mature female inflorescence compact (flowering stems producing medium to large “buds”) with prominent sugar leaves (a low perigonal bract-to-leaf index); sugar leaves have CSGTs extending more than half way down their length; perigonal bracts densely covered with CSGTs. Mature achene exocarp color (beneath the perianth) often a lighter shade of olive green to gray.
ATHC/CBD ratio <7 (almost always >2). Mature achenes usually ≥ 3.6 mm long (Fig. 3a, b); perianth mostly sloughed off (appearing as irregular spots or stripes); exposed exocarp exhibiting prominent venation; lacking a prominent protuberant base; not disarticulating from plant, and often trapped in the dense inflorescence var. afghanica (“Indica” in the historical sense2)
BTHC/CBD ratio often <2. Mature achenes usually < 3.6 mm long (Fig. 3c, d); perianth persistent (covering exocarp and its venation), with strong pigmentation in a mottled or striped pattern; with a protuberant base; readily disarticulating from plant var. asperrima
1 As emphasized in the text, the differences presented here represent unhybridized plants, before extensive recent hybridization between them.
2 Historically, as discussed in the text, “Sativa” formerly represented landraces of South Asian heritage, and “Indica” formerly represented Central Asian landraces. This key is not intended for the identification of “Sativa” and “Indica” strains commercially available today.



Figure 3.
Representative achenes of four varieties A indica, Rajshahi (Bangladesh), Clarke 1877 (BM) B indica, Coimbatore (India), Bircher 1893 (K) C indica, South Africa, Hillig 1996; (IND) D himalayensis neotype E himalayensis, Bareilly (India), Roxburgh 1796 (K). F himalayensis, East Bengal (Bangladesh) Griffith 1835 (GH) G afghanica neotype H afghanica epitype I afghanica Yarkant (Xīnjiāng), Henderson 1871 (LE) J asperrima lectotype K asperrima Nuristān (Afghanistan), Street 1965 (F) L Kailiyskiy Alatau (Kazakhstan), Semenov-Tyan-Shansky 1857 (LE).





The seeds in picture were referred to as the large indica "walnut" looking seeds by N.
Size of seed and potency are not related as the smaller seed phenotypes were more potent

Yarkant County​

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Yarkant County, also Shache County, also transliterated from Uyghur as Yakan County, is a county in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, China, located on the southern rim of the Taklamakan Desert in the Tarim Basin. It is one of 11 counties administered under Kashgar Prefecture. Wikipedia
Elevation: 4,042′
Area: 3,463 mi²
Population: 851,374 (2015)
Prefecture: Kashgar
Autonomous region: Xinjiang
Prefecture-level divisions: Kashgar Prefecture, Kashgar

History​

The ancient Silk Route into South Asia followed the Yarkand River valley. From Aksu, it went via Maral Bashi (Bachu) on the bank of the Yarkand River, to the city of Yarkand (Shache). From Yarkand, the route crossed the Bolor-Tagh mountains through the river valleys of Yarkand and Tashkurgan to reach the town of Tashkurgan. From there, it crossed the Karakoram mountains through one of the western passes (Kilik, Mintaka or Khunjerab) to reach Gilgit in northern Kashmir. Then it went on to Gandhara (the vicinity of present day Peshawar).[7][8] The Indian merchants from Gandhara introduced the Kharosthi script into the Tarim Basin, and the Buddhist monks followed in their wake, spreading Buddhism.[9] The Chinese Buddhist traveller Fa Xian is believed to have followed this route.

With the Arab conquest of Khurasan in 651 AD, the main Silk route to western Asia was interrupted, and the importance of the South Asian route increased. Gilgit as well as Baltistan find increased mention in the Chinese chronicles (under the names Great Po-lu and Little Po-lu, from the old name Bolor). China invaded Gilgit in 747 AD to secure its routes to Gandhara and prevent Tibetan influence. But the effects of the invasion appear to have been short-lived, as Turkic rule took hold in Gilgit.[10][11]

It is possible that alternative trade routes developed after this time between Yarkand and Ladakh via the Karakash Valley. The region of Hunza adjoining Xinjiang, which contained the passes through the Karakoram range, began to split off from Gilgit as an independent state around 997, and internecine wars with Gilgit as well as neighbouring Nagar became frequent.[12][13] The rising importance of the Ladakh route is illustrated by the raids into Ladakh conducted by Mirza Abu Bakr Dughlat who took control of Kashgaria in 1465. His successor, Sultan Said Khan launched a proper invasion of Ladakh and Kashmir in 1532, led by his general Mirza Haidar Dughlat.[14]
 
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Fresh leaves dark green in color, leaflets of larger leaves sometimes overlap; central leaflets broad (length/width usually <6), often oblanceolate; margins with coarse serrations, rarely biserrate.
doubly serrateduplicato-dentatusEach tooth bearing smaller teeth
oblanceolateoblanceolatuswhole leafMuch longer than wide and with the widest portion near the tip; reversed lanceolate
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A classification of endangered high-THC cannabis (Cannabis sativa subsp. indica)
domesticates and their wild relatives
John M. McPartland and Ernest Small
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acespicoli

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Cherniak (1982) provided 15 photos of Afghani plants. He described Afghani inflorescences
as very compact, heavily laden with resin, and with perigonal bracts larger than “c. sativa
strains.” Plants rarely grew beyond 7-8 ft tall, and their branches seldom extended beyond 2 feet
from the shoot. Shoots and branches were thicker than “c. sativa.” Cherniak’s photos show plants
with broadly obovate leaflets, at least most of them. He noted that Afghani leaves have the
“deepest, darkest green color of all cannabis plants.”
De Meijer and Keizer (1996) compared morphological variation in 160 accessions under
CGE conditions, and provided raw data (de Meijer 1994a). A multivariate clustering method
(PCA) recognized four “plant-use groups”: wild-type populations, fiber cultivars, fiber landraces,
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and drug strains. In the latter group they lumped diverse accessions, such as hybrids (e.g.,
“Skunk #1”, “Four-way”), and accessions of questionable heritage (e.g., “Nederweit”).

Passport data and voucher specimens enabled us to identify three non-hybridized C. indica accessions
(891384, 891385, 910972), and three Afghani accessions (883271, 891201, 891383).

Differences in only four traits approach statistical significance in this small data set.
Leaf L/W ratio: Afghani, 𝑥̅ =3.16; C. indica, 𝑥̅ =4.68 (p=0.015).
Achene marbling score: Afghani, 𝑥̅ =3.0 (moderate); C. indica, 𝑥̅ =5.67 (high) (p=0.016).
Achene length: Afghani, 𝑥̅ =4.17 mm; C. indica, 𝑥̅ =3.80 (p=0.106).

Xylem cell length: Afghani, 𝑥̅ =0.591 mm; C. indica, 𝑥̅ =0.548 mm (t-test p=0.090)

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Purple Kush #1 »»» Pure Haze Purple Pheno x Chitrali #1 / Mendo Purps (aka Mendocino Purple)
Onion; Garlic; Microbiological; Rot; Earth; Musky; Sweat; Leather
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In the northeastern part of Afghanistan, there is the Wakhan Corridor, a narrow panhandle of mountainous territory in the Hindu Kush range, squeezed between Tajikistan to the north and Pakistan to the south, that extends to the grassy valley of the Little Pamir and all the way to the Chinese autonomous region of Xinjiang. The entire Wakhan corridor was established as Wakhan National Park in 2014. The corridor borders the Pamir mountains to the north and the Karakoram mountain range to the south. In the western part of the strip are some of Afghanistan's highest peaks, the Kohe Urgunt, the Kohe Shakhawr and the Noshaq Mountain (Naw Shakh) at 7,492 m. The Noshaq, the highest mountain Afghanistan's and the second highest peak of the Hindu Kush Range, is situated on the border between Badakhshan Province in Afghanistan and Pakistan's Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province.

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Big & Small Seeds
  • Media owner Sam_Skunkman
  • Date added Jan 13, 2007
  • I got the parents of these seeds in India and Asia. Kashmir 9,000 feet for the small ones. China for the big ones. Neither are stony, the Indian one is wild and the China one for hemp and food.
    I grew these seeds in the photos.

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2/3 sativa, 1/3 indica, 1985 sweet
 
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acespicoli

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Anyone here interested in Skunk bud history may find this thread and book of interest
Also Madjag has some excellent 70s photos he was able to save, check em out in his gallery
 

acespicoli

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What I did notice up above was,they found an indica in South Africa,interesting,76
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If that interests you this might as well,

Many thanks to ApeOrigin for this superb and perfect sativa landrace - Bushmans is not dead, Bushmans is still alive with the best quality ever.

Bushmans is a pure Sativa form southafrican Highlands - from Ciskei! Recommended for indoor- and outdoorgrowers! This strain has a very great smell reminds on liqueur with a touch of vanilla!

This Bushmans by Origin Seeds is a recommended strain for outdoorgrowers who want to have the very nice sativasmell! They improved the quality of the seeds and the result is an outstanding sativa for indoors and outdoors!



The skunk train continues,

The Emerald Triangle is a region in Northern California, named as such due to it being the largest cannabis-producing region in the United States. The region includes three counties in an upside-down triangular configuration:


In 1984, Humboldt residents filed a federal lawsuit claiming they had been subject to illegal surveillance by U-2 high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft deployed by the California-based multiagency task force started the year prior, the Campaign Against Marijuana Planting.

 

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RIP Joe
I have to find the post where Dogless says skunk and garlic are selections from the same line ....
Anyway if you have come this far dont stop now, the work continues after it was almost lost.
RKS will be tested after its remixed to the old specs
 
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