Sam_Skunkman said:
Well, Nevilles Haze is derived from Original Haze matierials I gave Neville in 1980's, not 1969, but it is not a pure Haze, it has been crossed with the NL line.
So you are comparing apples and oranges..
Hi Sam,
First things first, you should be aware I have alot of respect for you. But I have to say that Ive got first hand knowledge from those involved at MNS that contradict your story of giving Neville the seeds that ultimately went into the Nevilles Haze. They can and do trace their haze stock back to 1969 and I have absolutely no reason to doubt their words.
You're right though, NH does have NL in its mix. But the reason I brought up Nevs Haze is because its known to go 20 weeks give or take itself. And another poster mentioned the reason we do not see so many reports is because of its flowering times. Which is an answer we here alot throughout the years whenever a similar question is posed.
Sam_Skunkman said:
Take FD Original Haze and make a cross with your favorite female clone and you will be surprised how good it is. Often much better then either parent.
I have heard the same infact for many years Sam.
Sam_Skunkman said:
Also I have suggested many times that Original Haze is "breeding material" not great commercial growing materials, but you seem to only notice what you want to notice. It is the only pure Original Haze available.
Yes I have read this as well, even the Dutchmen state pretty much the same thing. But Im just curious as to why its reputed to have lsd like qualities yet so many people have not reported on her.
If I was going to purchase The Original Haze, I would want the Haze that has the effects we had read you describe so many times Sam. In my experience with Haze, they have proved to be lack luster in comparison to your descriptions which leave me kicking the wall wishing I could acquire the variety you speak of so highly.
Sam_Skunkman said:
Bottom line is if you want an almost Haze line that is stong and popular get Nevilles Haze, SSH, Kali Mist, Sage, or a dozen other Haze Hybrids that mostly used my Original Haze as a parent, directly or through a Haze Hybrid based on my Haze genetics available from 1976 from me.
-SamS
Kali Mist is not a haze hybrid to my knowledge, but does have a reputation for itself. Simon has stated the Kali is derived from lines that were not available in holland.
Sam_Skunkman said:
If you want pure Sativa blood to use for breeding then remember that all of the above are Haze hybrids only and most used Indica bloodlines to some degree.
Yes that is true, but there are some of us(myself included) who do not want an inbred line from The dutchmen of Haze. And when we read your description of the Haze Sam and How good it is, yet there are very few others with access to your lines to report on them that leaves alot to be desired from my end.
Sam_Skunkman said:
What is the 26 weeks about? I have grown Haze a lot, but 26 weeks? WTF??
-SamS
Your guess is as good as mine Sam, I didnt say 26 weeks the other guy did. But the fact these lines are said to take quite a while is an excuse many hear/read as to why there are few reports on these varietys online.
It would be nice to see others experiencing the same things this legendary variety is said to possess.
Much respect Sam,
AS