SCROG advice needed please.

[speedemon]

Hey FreezerBoy, thanks for stopping by and sharing that most useful information, I will bear it in mind and keep it with all my other SCROG info As far as I know these strains are all at their best at 9 weeks.

 

[roll it large]

nice update mate filling out nicely, when do you start trimming the leaves under the screen is there a certiain time frame when it needs to be done?

 

[speedemon]

nice update mate filling out nicely, when do you start trimming the leaves under the screen is there a certiain time frame when it needs to be done?

Thanks mate I will take cuts this week and will make sure they strike before clearing the under growth, some people take cuts day 20 in flower then if all cuts have taken they clear under growth day 34 flower.

 

[FreezerBoy]

nice update mate filling out nicely, when do you start trimming the leaves under the screen is there a certiain time frame when it needs to be done?

Look for condensation. If leaves overlap and contact, condensation forms and can eventually lead to mold. If there's no contact and they're getting light, leave them on for energy purposes. Once buried in shadow, they provide little energy and should be removed.

On another note, for the impatient among us (like me) allow some isolated buds to grow under the screen. Now you can sample the crop along the way without reducing above screen yield.

 

[mellow yellow]

looking good m8

 

[edgey]

Hey FreezerBoy, thanks for stopping by and sharing that most useful information, I will bear it in mind and keep it with all my other SCROG info As far as I know these strains are all at their best at 9 weeks.

i'd go for 10-11 on the psycho personally m8 , the extra week is worth it in weight alone

 

[speedemon]

looking good m8

Alright Mellow yellow mate, hope you and yours are all well
Thanks for stopping by

i'd go for 10-11 on the psycho personally m8 , the extra week is worth it in weight alone

edgey hope your well mate
Thanks for stopping by and sharing your knowledge on Psychosive most useful to know, even though I have flowered 2 now and pulled at 9 weeks, but still a fooking impressive stone. But the weight thing sounds worth it

I will just do a verbal update as have taken no pics but, things are going crazy in there now almost 95% screen cover and Generals Daughter is stretching like a bitch, but thin manoeuvrable stems.
Its not until you try a SCROG that you realise how much these things stretch daily in flower. A lot of time is needed with this method though, so you cannot get stoned and think "It will be ok until tomorrow" as they will not. lol.

 

[Marathanman]

It is a good method for stretchy plants personally I'll be sticking with it but as you've done find something easier to roll out than pea netting.

 

[FreezerBoy]

Its not until you try a SCROG that you realise how much these things stretch daily in flower.

Well, that's your fault. ScrOG greatly increases growth rates. The main growing tip tells the rest of the plant to stay down and the plant obeys. Cut off it's head, the next two below take over, send the same message and the plant obeys. Bend the tip, and the message gets reversed. Now EVERY stem insists on being the biggest. No more staying down.

Poor speedemon is gonna get buried alive Darn you IC. Darn you all to heck...

God save the Queen and break a stem.

 

[speedemon]

Well, that's your fault. ScrOG greatly increases growth rates. The main growing tip tells the rest of the plant to stay down and the plant obeys. Cut off it's head, the next two below take over, send the same message and the plant obeys. Bend the tip, and the message gets reversed. Now EVERY stem insists on being the biggest. No more staying down.

Poor speedemon is gonna get buried alive Darn you IC. Darn you all to heck...

God save the Queen and break a stem.

Lol I did not say I was unhappy about this in fact completely the opposite things are going brilliantly so far should have a nice yield and as its my first SCROG so I am very happy so far .
Thanks for the info though mate I was preparing myself for super cropping below the screen to maintain canopy height. Lol at being buried alive, I hope so buried in bud after cropping Will post pics soon

 

[Marlo]

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Great grow Speedemon. Some great advice being thrown in this thread....looks like you're in god hands.

 

[mad librettist]

Well, that's your fault. ScrOG greatly increases growth rates. The main growing tip tells the rest of the plant to stay down and the plant obeys. Cut off it's head, the next two below take over, send the same message and the plant obeys. Bend the tip, and the message gets reversed. Now EVERY stem insists on being the biggest. No more staying down.

Poor speedemon is gonna get buried alive Darn you IC. Darn you all to heck...

God save the Queen and break a stem.

great tip if you find stretch unpredictable: train on top of the screen, not under it. That way you can reposition entire branches.

 

[speedemon]

Hi Marlo, Thanks for stopping by my SCROG, yeah you right mate I have a lot of people on here giving me fantastic advice in this post

Hey mad librettist, Thanks for that tip mate I already coincidently came across that tip the other day when I reach the end of the screen and wanted to send the branch in another direction, by weaving it on top of the screen and it's worked a treat.

 

[Marathanman]

I've been a lot more brutal with trimming the lower growth (under the canopy) this time to put more energy to the tops where the light is. Got to much lower trim off the last scrog. Never had as much waterhash but fatter buds would have been preferable.

 

[olddirtybastard]

you may or may not already do this, but to increase yield make sure you cut all the bullshit lower branches.

Also slowly trim off fan leaves in the dense spots, more or less depending on how crowded it is, just dont defoliate the whole plant all at once, i do mine little by little every couple of days and the plants wont be affected.

 

[Crusader Rabbit]

This is a very nice setup Speedemon, i love the way its clean, trim and tidy. That is a good line-up to, i think you will get a good yield from those screens. Do you stick to a standard hole size in scrog or can it be any size you like? I have never considered doing a scrog myself, after seeing this i think now is the time for me to try one.

For a SCROG I have found 4" concrete reinforcing mesh to be easy to deal with. The 4" square openings are big enough for my hand to fit through. This allows me to reach in from above and manipulate stems underneath, or vice versa. It makes a big difference if you have to rearrange branches. Unfortunately it seems that most manufacturers have gone to a 6" mesh nowadays. I keep an eye out for older sections of 4" mesh laying about. They can be found. Older stuff uses a heavier gauge wire that can support itself without a frame.

I learned a negative aspect of SCROG once when half my crop threw nanners. Now that was a real pain in the ass trying to extricate the hermaphrodite plants from the screen without damaging their neighbors. It's also a good reason not to have several plants in one container.

 

[speedemon]

Hey olddirtybastard thanks for stopping by my SCROG and sharing that great advice to cut away the growth under the screen in stages and not all at once

Hi Crusader Rabbit great idea using the reinforcing mesh but is it not a bit heavy duty and prone to rusting mate? Correct me if I am wrong but are'nt they made of steel reinforcing bar? I hope the nana's stay away from my grow

 

[Crusader Rabbit]

Hi Crusader Rabbit great idea using the reinforcing mesh but is it not a bit heavy duty and prone to rusting mate? Correct me if I am wrong but are'nt they made of steel reinforcing bar? I hope the nana's stay away from my grow

The wire they're making it out of now is galvanized and much thinner than rebar. If you had a single strand you could bend it in your hands. People sometimes buy a four foot or six foot wide length of this stuff and roll it into a three foot diameter tube, wire it together, and then stand it on end to support a tomato plant growing inside. I've seen it for sale in four by six foot panels. But again, the new stuff uses a six inch square mesh. The four inch is ideal though cause you can just fit your hand through.

Yeah, I hope you don't get nanners too. I'll never SCROG a bagseed grow again. That was the big mistake on my part.

 

[speedemon]

Have been busy pruning off the undergrowth since last picture over a period of time as not to stress them to much, that was a nightmare but well worth it so the plants put all their energy into budding. I will be coming up to week 3 on Friday 9th September and I think I will leave them to their own devices from then on, no more training as I think that will be enough, but open for suggestions
Here are the pics, thanks for looking

 

[~Shhh~]

Love it speed! Clearing out below will help loads with airflow as you know. You'll need that air flow when the fat ass buds appear how many cola's would you say you have in 1 screen?