GOT A BETTER FEED PROGRAM??????
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Veg - Floranova Bloom and Floralicious Plus.
Flower - Floranova Bloom, Floralicious Plus (first half of flower) and KoolBloom powder (every other feed.)
Flower - Floranova Bloom, Floralicious Plus (first half of flower) and KoolBloom powder (every other feed.)
ShroomDr - PBPB Soil? I've been using GH's Flora Micro and Bloom for my base, I've been thinking about trying a PBP/GH side by side. I remember you working on your PBP formula a few years ago, I think I'll have to bookmark your post, that's some good info!
That thread is the first link in my signature! (NPK levels of Common Nutrient Products)
I wanted to try GH vs PBP, my buddy did too(He uses GH), but neither could break from what's working pretty well already.
The grass is always greener i guess
I have constant co2 at 1500ppm also, ya it is worth it quality wise. It's not like I started with 25 products. I have slowly added new products over a decade of growing.
Is it really worth it? B.Friendly... how much money do you feed your plants each grow? I just don't see how it could be worth it.
With each new product there is some benefit.
The key is to get your waterings to feedings down pat.
With the addition of FloraNectar and FloraBlend my resin/trichombes are much better. showing nearly 2x amber production, they looked like 8 weeks of flower at 6 weeks in.
If you have a 5 week veg then most products are worth it. If the veg is to short then most are pointless.
But i would recommend the full GH line in addition to the Flora series: http://www.genhydro.com/genhydro_US/plant_enhance.html
I'll give a tally of what was spent soon. If you have the light then most products make sense, not recommended for micro grows but I am under 5000w.
I also spent 2 years in full time Horticulture College, ie 20+ hours a week in a greenhouse over 4 semesters. Many products go into your vegetable production.
Plus everything I use is found naturally in nature's soil, which I am trying to optimize indoors.
L-Immortal
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Yeah exactly right that’s your opinion, and there really is no right or wrong answer it’s what works for you. I run a ton of gear but each for a reason. I’ve done the bare bones runs and the k.i.s.s. and it just depends on where you want to be. You can’t go wrong with a kiss feed schedule EVER and that’s cool. But, but… your never gonna push the genetics you have to the limit and see what they can really do. To each is own they say.
P.s you got some very happy ladies there
Thanks for all the info!
I don't doubt the benefits of the complicated feeding program at all. What I'm mainly thinking about is what your cost per gram, and how it would differ from a basic program.
I fully agree, you can grow lots of stuff with the basic recipes, but to really push a plant you'll need more than that.
There have been a few products that I've seen endorsed by several experienced growers recently, with FloraNectar being one of them. (The other being Rhizotonic... neither of which my local store has.
)It's a figure I don't see being discussed very often, but one that I think is very important.
Yield / Total $ spent during the grow cycle (electricity+nutes+rent if applicable) = $ per gram
I don't question that it increases yield and quality, I just have always wondered what price you pay for it.
What do you consider micro grows?
I guess micro grows are under 1000wattsThanks for all the info!
I don't doubt the benefits of the complicated feeding program at all. What I'm mainly thinking about is what your cost per gram, and how it would differ from a basic program.
I fully agree, you can grow lots of stuff with the basic recipes, but to really push a plant you'll need more than that.
There have been a few products that I've seen endorsed by several experienced growers recently, with FloraNectar being one of them. (The other being Rhizotonic... neither of which my local store has.
It's a figure I don't see being discussed very often, but one that I think is very important.
Yield / Total $ spent during the grow cycle (electricity+nutes+rent if applicable) = $ per gram
I don't question that it increases yield and quality, I just have always wondered what price you pay for it.
What do you consider micro grows?
Rhizotonic is the liquid formula right. It is also similar to the GH Subculture's M & B, or at least one of them anyways. Check which is cheaper the GH or Rhiz product. Rhizotonic is a great root stimulator. for roots I also use Roots Excellerator and Superthrive.
ok lets do a tally on what I spend(been avoiding this lol):
H2O2 $5
GH Rare Earth $10
GH Flora Grow $5
GH Micro/ Bloom $50
GH Floralicious plus $35
GH FloraBlend $20
GH FloraNectar $20
GH Diam. Nectar $20
GH SubcultureM&B $100
GH Liq. KoolBloom $50
GH KoolBloom $15
GN Flora Kleen $20
Western B1 $25
Micro Nutrients $10
CalMg Solution $25
Epsom salts $5
Hygrozyme $35
Superthrive $25
Roots Excelurator $100
Jumbo Green $10
Bat Guano $30
black strap molasses $20
DM Penetrator $30
DM Foliar Spray $30
Total $665 per crop (probally $100 give or take)
plus $200 for co2
get 6lbs x 16 x 28 = 2688 grams / $865 = 3g's per dollar spent
plus HYDRO $1200 therefore: 2688 / $1865 = 1.44g's per dollar spent
Nice Bfriendly well done and fucking expensive eh lol lol... Anyone looked into dried fertizers from the nurseries yet? wondering if that might be the way to go here lol..juat a thought lol peace out Headband707
I gotta admit i kinda feel violated knowing how much i spend.lol... but to tell the truth the quality of smoke is superior to 97% of what i come across. Hope the other 3% don't have simple feed programs. lol. I tell myself they just have dif strains. hahaha
Thanks for taking the time to figure that out B.Friendly!
When do you use DM Penetrator and Liquid Light (I assume that's the Foliar Spray.)
When do you use DM Penetrator and Liquid Light (I assume that's the Foliar Spray.)
the DM is their grow and then bloom foliar feeds.
So "DM Foliar Spray $30" is actually DM Grow and DM Bloom?
yup its their 500ml or 1litre bottle i think, it's a small bottle
a secondary reason i like DM as a foliar is that it has Zinc in it. And this is great for that powdery mildew pest.
Balazar
Member
Wow thats a long list! I have done the whole House & Garden line for a while. Should be called House $ Garden lol.
I Saw that your using H2O2 with lots of bacteria/fungus products. That stuff kills the good bacteria/fungus that your adding along with the bad. You could save some money by removing one or the other from your regimen. If everything is going fine I would bump the root excellurator/subculture/exct cause its very expensive in comparison to a bottle of H202.
Just my
. If your gonna pay the money for those products don't weaken them with H2O2 use some molasses to boost them! They are just two different approaches to fixing the same problem but it doesn't make much sense to use them together because they work against each other. I waisted an entire can (500mL) of roots excellurator before I learned that.Also H2O2 = hydrogen peroxide
and Roots excellurator = compost tea (not manure) with molasses.
hygrozyme = humic acid.
Liquid Kelp + folvic acid + compost tea + an RCH of molasses is the secret recipe for many expensive folier sprays.
nectar/sweet/carboload are all mixes of different sugars molasses, sucrose, ect.
The cost of a lot of the expensive additives can be avoided by just figuring out what they are and not paying for the fancy bottle in the hydro store.
ya i do add the H2O2 about 30 minutes to my tank before putting in nutrients. I also do not add H202 when i can fill my tank with recirculated water from my dehumidifier.
Good point Balazar. People if you use H2O2 which is 30% hydrogen peroxide, add it to your reservoir or feeding tank half an hour before your nutrients so you don't kill any beneficial bacteria's
Good point Balazar. People if you use H2O2 which is 30% hydrogen peroxide, add it to your reservoir or feeding tank half an hour before your nutrients so you don't kill any beneficial bacteria's
cool shroomdr, the stuff i use is 50ml for 25gallons of water. And it is 30% hydrogen peroxide. So I don't know how much to use of the drug store brands???
