New seed stock prices thru the roof!!

[LLCoolBud]

I think the quality one produces should command the market price. For the most part this seems to be the case, unfortuanly there is alot of misinformation in the canna biz but for those who take it seriously will sift threw and research the breeders will find whats worht there while in the end. To each his or her own the more time you spend the more you will be rewarded in this biz.

 

[Retardo Motabon]

Right on Zoo! Artists and crafts persons put in alot of time, effort, love and dedication into what they sell. They rarely see money equivalent to their effort to create their finished products. If you want wall-mart seeds, thats your biz but for one I'd rather know that I helped that person continue their passion. I dont want to live in a scoiety where we dont support our finest artisans. If people dont like seed prices just devote a grow to seed production and you'll be set. That is of course, if you are willing to sacrifice the time, effort and loss of yield to make the seeds. Afterwards, dont forget to give them away or sell them much cheaper to people then breeders charge.
Does it still sound enticing?
Those of you who are making a living with seeds, i congratulate you, and thank you for your contribution, not many get to see the monetary rewards for their labor of love.
RM

 

[bakerman]

Well said RM!

 

[cocktail frank]

it is good practice not to make f2's of other breeders hard work w/o permission IMO.
more a respect thing.
especially if they are selling the f1's at the same time.
kinda cut throat

 

[Jones]

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[Retardo Motabon]

i wouldnt necessarily consider myself a fanboy. I have tried my shot making $ with a few art mediums and the money i recieved for the hours and love i put in never added up. There are scammers in every bunch, some stand out above it. With sites like this it has become much easier to separate the wheat from the chaff. people who do their homework should find plenty of reputable seeds to make their buying decisions with.
Rm

 

[cannabowl]

You ever wondered why seed packs have no date of 'manufacture' on them?

Cannabiogen has dates for best use:wink:. I know what you mean though.

 

[DocLeaf]

fritillary seed packs also have the year of production printed on them! :wink:

 

[CaptainTrips]

it is good practice not to make f2's of other breeders hard work w/o permission IMO.
more a respect thing.
especially if they are selling the f1's at the same time.
kinda cut throat

Permission to make seeds, lmao.

 

[Quentin]

Sad But Truth.

Sad But Truth.

Once upon a time I thought so too.
But after 2 decades of reading strain descriptions and buying seeds that result in plants that don't match those descriptions there's not much left I could have respect for.
Breeders lie about flowering times, yield, smell/taste, potency, heritage.
They steal names and genetics from each other.
And most don't mind selling you old seeds for good $$ with very low germ rates...
You ever wondered why seed packs have no date of 'manufacture' on them?

There're some I still carry a torch for but they're few and far between.
I'm just not one for being a fanboy just because some breeder knows how to play the interweb crowd.

Now Lets Chip in here and show some real support here.
When i read this post i know EXACTLY what you meant and felt as though you took the words right out of my mouth. This is just what i have felt for a long time and im sure there are others who feel the same.
Anything over 150-200 for a pack of seed is just plain Wrong..

 

[barletta]

Permission to make seeds, lmao.

I gotta think that CF was referring to 'breeders' that sell straight f2's of strains that are currently being sold. I doubt anyone has an issue with making seeds for yourself and to share. Except female only seed co's...

 

[Care Free 1]

Anything over 150-200 for a pack of seed is just plain Wrong..

I would not say that it's wrong if the strain you are buying is truely what you want to grow.

Jack Herer for example is $211 a pack right now. Find one keeper mother and make 100's of clones, and be smarter with what you do with the males. You will not think twice about the extra outlay up front if you are doing the right thing with your gardening skills. One pack can set you up for many years so the cost pain is temporary.

 

[Rudedewd]

Any guitar over $300 is just wrong.......any car over $10,000 is wrong........any bike over $5,000 is wrong. As ridiculous as those things sound, it's just as silly to say any pack of seeds over whatever amount is wrong. Instead of looking at the top end prices and complaining look at the beans available in your price bracket and grow them. There are always going to be top end products (at least price wise) no matter what product you are talking about so I don't really understand why anyone would think it would be any different for weed seeds. Funny thing is I bet many of the people bitching about seed prices don't hesitate to sell their weed for $300 an oz or more. If you expect weed breeders to give their product away maybe they should all step up and give their product away as well. I haven't really looked at seed prices lately but I'm sure that there are cheap alternatives for those not able to cough up the dinero for the strains that they lust after. Hell, I've smoked killer bud grown from bagseed if the Nirvana price range is still too much for you. It is not a matter of entitlement any more than any other product. Just because a strain exist doesn't mean that everyone is entitled to grow it, either cough it up and buy it or grow something else.

Wait maybe I am entitled to the best of everything. I'm going to write to Harley and bitch at them because their bikes are out of my price bracket. Then I think a call to Gibson, my Dean Vendetta just doesn't hold a candle to their Les Pauls and it isn't fair that my Dean sells for a $100 while their Les Pauls are a couple grand. Then I think I'll call up the escort service and bitch about their $500 house calls, after all this blow up doll that I'm using only cost me $20..........

 

[subrob]

I gotta think that CF was referring to 'breeders' that sell straight f2's of strains that are currently being sold. I doubt anyone has an issue with making seeds for yourself and to share. Except female only seed co's...

I agree. and i agree w CF.
---i have bought a number of $40-50 packs and been extremely happy w each one. still kickin myself for leaving the rest of my big blue seeds in my apt. freezer when i moved out! dr atomic is affordable as is HTC many many out there nice and low priced.

 

[SuperConductor]

Anything over 150-200 for a pack of seed is just plain Wrong..

Of course! It's wrong to sell people things they want to buy, now I see where society went wrong lol

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Any guitar over $300 is just wrong.......any car over $10,000 is wrong........any bike over $5,000 is wrong. As ridiculous as those things sound, it's just as silly to say any pack of seeds over whatever amount is wrong. Instead of looking at the top end prices and complaining look at the beans available in your price bracket and grow them. There are always going to be top end products (at least price wise) no matter what product you are talking about so I don't really understand why anyone would think it would be any different for weed seeds. Funny thing is I bet many of the people bitching about seed prices don't hesitate to sell their weed for $300 an oz or more. If you expect weed breeders to give their product away maybe they should all step up and give their product away as well. I haven't really looked at seed prices lately but I'm sure that there are cheap alternatives for those not able to cough up the dinero for the strains that they lust after. Hell, I've smoked killer bud grown from bagseed if the Nirvana price range is still too much for you. It is not a matter of entitlement any more than any other product. Just because a strain exist doesn't mean that everyone is entitled to grow it, either cough it up and buy it or grow something else.

Wait maybe I am entitled to the best of everything. I'm going to write to Harley and bitch at them because their bikes are out of my price bracket. Then I think a call to Gibson, my Dean Vendetta just doesn't hold a candle to their Les Pauls and it isn't fair that my Dean sells for a $100 while their Les Pauls are a couple grand. Then I think I'll call up the escort service and bitch about their $500 house calls, after all this blow up doll that I'm using only cost me $20..........

L.M.F.A.O.!!.....

Yes.....the above post does make alot of sense......and sure you can get seeds for a VERY reasonable price......try Satori or Hashberry from Mandala seeds......now there is serious bang for your buck, euro or Turkish Lire!

 

[BENJI]

rudedewd just owned this thread now thats some funny shit!!
ps what did the escort service say when u rang them up??

 

[confused]

Any guitar over $300 is just wrong.......any car over $10,000 is wrong........any bike over $5,000 is wrong. As ridiculous as those things sound, it's just as silly to say any pack of seeds over whatever amount is wrong. Instead of looking at the top end prices and complaining look at the beans available in your price bracket and grow them. There are always going to be top end products (at least price wise) no matter what product you are talking about so I don't really understand why anyone would think it would be any different for weed seeds. Funny thing is I bet many of the people bitching about seed prices don't hesitate to sell their weed for $300 an oz or more. If you expect weed breeders to give their product away maybe they should all step up and give their product away as well. I haven't really looked at seed prices lately but I'm sure that there are cheap alternatives for those not able to cough up the dinero for the strains that they lust after. Hell, I've smoked killer bud grown from bagseed if the Nirvana price range is still too much for you. It is not a matter of entitlement any more than any other product. Just because a strain exist doesn't mean that everyone is entitled to grow it, either cough it up and buy it or grow something else.

Wait maybe I am entitled to the best of everything. I'm going to write to Harley and bitch at them because their bikes are out of my price bracket. Then I think a call to Gibson, my Dean Vendetta just doesn't hold a candle to their Les Pauls and it isn't fair that my Dean sells for a $100 while their Les Pauls are a couple grand. Then I think I'll call up the escort service and bitch about their $500 house calls, after all this blow up doll that I'm using only cost me $20..........

I think this ends most the argument. Good points.

 

[kittykronic]

i love this place..thanks rudedude i needed a good laugh!! hit the nail on the head!!! peace

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Yes what you say is a reality to a few growers......most these days seem to want to buy female/feminized seeds, and after a few years of 'if's and but's' most all seem to be happy...


..I have always encouraged growers to make seeds for themselves and to share....so for that you do need a male......and not just male flowers on a lady-boy plant....Growing purely for male selection is a rarity for most growers, so we must support those that do breed the plant and make seeds......otherwise how will this plant evolve and at the same time be preserved?

*outkastt...

...out of curiosity can you tell me what variety you bought for 250 to end up with a bunch of hermies?