i think thats field horsetail.
comfrey has nearly as much silica as horsetail.
VG
comfrey has nearly as much silica as horsetail.
VG
Eclipse,
i believe people use the term "organic" FAR to loosely, to be "organic" the compound must include a carbon atom, many minerals and soil amendments do not carry carbon atoms. so in my eyes if your using minerals and amendments that are not 100% organic you should be using the term Naturally grown instead.
BTW, amendment rates of Fossil Shell Flour to my grow medium is around 6% by volume. Studies have shown 100-500kg/ha of DE can be most beneficial in the field (outdoors).
Cheers!
BTW...does any but me find it odd that many staunch "organic growers" advocate using ProTekt (not organic) as a soil amendment?
Potassium silicate is allowed for pest/disease control in organic gardening.
Eclipse,
i believe people use the term "organic" FAR to loosely, to be "organic" the compound must include a carbon atom, many minerals and soil amendments do not carry carbon atoms. so in my eyes if your using minerals and amendments that are not 100% organic you should be using the term Naturally grown instead.
For starters yes that pic is of a variety of horsetail. There is another variety I'm familiar with that has no 'leaves' at all and simply stalks. If you do use DE make sure you wear a protective mask. Your lungs cannot break down DE and simply like inhaling micro razor blades. Far as I know DE is only used for insect control where it punctures exoskeletons. Imagine what it does to your lungs .i used food grade de
i use a flower sifter and sift it as a top dress
There is probably no difference. Thing you have to understand is most all nutrient companies buy bulk ingredients from the actual raw material manufacturer and simply bottle it under their own label either in one of their formulas or as a stand-alone ingredient. Potassium silicate is potassium silicate is potassium silicate.as for agsil , how is it different from pro-tekt?
You are correct when comparing the term of organic in chemistry, versus an inorganic.
However, "organic" gardening is a misnomer of flaming shit. Before someone enters their argument, go read the list of chemicals "grandfathered" in to make the "organic" list. That list was about deep pockets, not ecological balance.
All gardening was "organic" gardening at some point. Organic based gardening might have been more accurate, however our puny brains couldn't agree with the extra word.
Thanks man...I guess since this thread is in the "growers forum", it never occurred to use the "chemistry definition" of "organics"...it would be kinda silly, huh?
BTW, I think many of us would love to see the list of the chemicals grandfathered and acceptable for "organic growers"....cuz I did not know there was such a thing.
Got any links? I am particularly interested in "who/when/why/where" of the grandfathering concept you refer to. I have been around more decades than I care to admit (closer to 60 than 50 years old), and this is the FIRST I heard of any "organic" body that "grandfathered chems". Many of us are aware exceptions where certain "synthetic" products are permitted (in a limited way) for organic growing (ie Potassium Silicate). But I have NEVER heard of any "grandfathered list of chems".
Thanks!
Technically OT(CO) certifies per USDA standards. I dealt with them for years through annual inspections in the nutritional industry. I think the whole organic certification thing is a joke.Ok, well I achieve organic certification for people thru Oregon Tilth which is just really the USDA. I urge you to read thru the Organic Certification provided thru USDA as administered by their agent, OT. The info is clearly out there. The history of organic certification is laughable at best.
I don't know why you take this stance, you are clearly a read individual, because you haven't "heard of it" makes it not exist?
So I can't explain how chemistry works? Wow, ok.
Ok, well I achieve organic certification for people thru Oregon Tilth which is just really the USDA. I urge you to read thru the Organic Certification provided thru USDA as administered by their agent, OT. The info is clearly out there. The history of organic certification is laughable at best.
I don't know why you take this stance, you are clearly a read individual, because you haven't "heard of it" makes it not exist?
So I can't explain how chemistry works? Wow, ok.
Thanks man...I guess since this thread is in the "growers forum", it never occurred to use the "chemistry definition" of "organics"...it would be kinda silly, huh?
BTW, I think many of us would love to see the list of the chemicals grandfathered and acceptable for "organic growers"....cuz I did not know there was such a thing.
Got any links? I am particularly interested in "who/when/why/where" of the grandfathering concept you refer to. I have been around more decades than I care to admit (closer to 60 than 50 years old), and this is the FIRST I heard of any "organic" body that "grandfathered chems". Many of us are aware exceptions where certain "synthetic" products are permitted (in a limited way) for organic growing (ie Potassium Silicate). But I have NEVER heard of any "grandfathered list of chems".
Thanks!