I did 7....you have 2 more...... all rooted....
9 for 9..... my experience says.... these things almost always root.....
9 for 9..... my experience says.... these things almost always root.....
Big Clones.....and air layers.....
- Thread starter Budley Doright
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Update time. These pictures were taken at 12 days 3.75 hours. The first two show the roots for clone number two from both sides. One side is pretty full and the other is catching up. May put this one in a pot in a day or two.
The last picture is of clone one. I took the bag off last night and it has not wilted. So I would have to say that the roots are working to support the plant. I placed a gallon jug on a one gallon pot next to it to judge size. As you can see the plant is above the jug and off the top of the picture.
Not bad for a clone that was started 12 days ago.
The last picture is of clone one. I took the bag off last night and it has not wilted. So I would have to say that the roots are working to support the plant. I placed a gallon jug on a one gallon pot next to it to judge size. As you can see the plant is above the jug and off the top of the picture.
Not bad for a clone that was started 12 days ago.
The second clone is now potted. It was potted at 12 days 17 hours. Measuring from the pot bottom it is 22.5 inches tall. Again the stem is resting on the bottom of the pot to get the root mass into the perched water table to help wick water to the roots. Here are two crappy pictures of the plant.
How big were the rooted cuts after this happened?
Thats pretty impressive....
commonly I leave my small plants in my cloner for 14 days.....
I expect them to be well rooted and maybe growing a bit.....
But I certainly wouldnt bet on my first day out of the cloner.....plants.....
vs that monster......
lol......
But I have to ask...... why doesnt everyone do this???
Its actually pretty fing easy....
Both mr crane....and myself..... have just taken a branch here and there....
but a great deal can be done to shape these plant before they are airlayered..
topping the branch a week or so before airlayering would seem to be a good idea....
I think I would have to do it more to confirm other strains do this well to. But yes it is super easy to do. Every thing you need I posted. I would hope others would try it and post the progress.
But yes plants this large I dont see coming from rooting cubes. I could be wrong and some one will post a 22 to 23 inch clone cutting haha.
But yes plants this large I dont see coming from rooting cubes. I could be wrong and some one will post a 22 to 23 inch clone cutting haha.
I recall talking about this....
and some rookie told me.....
you wont save any time doing that.....
If this place wasnt moderated he would have gotten an earful.....
ANyway.... Im going to do a more conservative experiment....tomorrow.....
I have 4 plants which Im creating mothers from.....
I dont have large hunks at the moment.... but I either need to take clones or do smallish air layers.....
Im confident enough in the process to not do both...... I will do about 8 or 9 air layers and need 6 or 7 clones..... this proces is similar to most threads....they use rapid rooters..... and no cup for additional medium.....
This will be modest sized clones.... rapid rooters..... no additional medium...
Im making progress in the integration of air layering into my own grow.....
I anticipate replacing cloning with air layering......
I sort of have done that already...
and some rookie told me.....
you wont save any time doing that.....
If this place wasnt moderated he would have gotten an earful.....
ANyway.... Im going to do a more conservative experiment....tomorrow.....
I have 4 plants which Im creating mothers from.....
I dont have large hunks at the moment.... but I either need to take clones or do smallish air layers.....
Im confident enough in the process to not do both...... I will do about 8 or 9 air layers and need 6 or 7 clones..... this proces is similar to most threads....they use rapid rooters..... and no cup for additional medium.....
This will be modest sized clones.... rapid rooters..... no additional medium...
Im making progress in the integration of air layering into my own grow.....
I anticipate replacing cloning with air layering......
I sort of have done that already...
Why top? Root the top then the lower branches will grow. I would suspect the lowers will take a day or two then the new dominant one would take over. If the sugars from the top dont get past the stripped bark area neither will the growth inhibiting hormones from the top.
Cool thread! Starting out the gate with a 22' rooted plant would speed things up. Ive got a few three footers vegging right now, i may have to try out a few branches and try to top em and coax some branches out of them as they establish some roots. Thanks for sharing guys
I dont think we are anything close to the end game here......
We have a long way towards first shaping the growth then airlayering a medium sized plant......
I have 4 mothers working toward that end.....
SO far we have just taken limbs to see the process works most of the time....
I think if some branches were worked hard.... topping and pruning.... all while still on the mom plant..... then airlayer......
this could be a really bloody good technique
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I didnt initially comment on this..... because I wanted to think a bit....
I hadnt noticed..... and Im still not sure...... but I think my gg4 air layers look a little different than the normal clones......
Glue loves to stretch.... its a pain in the ass actually
these are more squat...more bushy....smaller internodes....than regular clones...
What I see could in fact be caused from the disruption of hormones... disruption of apical dominance.....
However..... what I see isnt really explained by ....
what I think I know about hormones and apical dominance....
This is just an observation at this point..... Im certainly not sure.....
but I will be watching this to see if my observation holds true....
Awesome post up how it goes. I am interested in how it works for others. Hopefully this can help people with numbers. I think it will cut down on several weeks of growth needed from using smaller cuts.
Mostly just a note to self....
starting 6 smaller sized airlayers
using.... rapid rooters..... clonex..... bread wrapper and twist ties....
I consider these a traditional type of air layer
My friend icky using a much cooler method......
Using a container to root a larger root ball
When these root.... I plan to actually transplant them into some other container for a week or so...
I will remove the plastic... the twist ties......leaving the rooted rapid rooter....
then use a plastic cup...bottle something to clam shell around this....
On my first set I used for the plastic wrap....... this time just an old bread wrapper...
the cling wrap seemed like a good idea..... but it stuck to everything....
This bread wrapper plastic was very much easier to use......
One goal is to figure out if its possible ( I think it is) to cut an air layer not putting it in a protected environment....(plastic bag)
In order to figure that out ...I intend to not use a plastic bag unless the plant wilts...
I would have bet that Mr ickys plant in post 142 could have simply been cut and put in indirect light for a day.... and it would have been fine....
We aim to find out.....
starting 6 smaller sized airlayers
using.... rapid rooters..... clonex..... bread wrapper and twist ties....
I consider these a traditional type of air layer
My friend icky using a much cooler method......
Using a container to root a larger root ball
When these root.... I plan to actually transplant them into some other container for a week or so...
I will remove the plastic... the twist ties......leaving the rooted rapid rooter....
then use a plastic cup...bottle something to clam shell around this....
On my first set I used for the plastic wrap....... this time just an old bread wrapper...
the cling wrap seemed like a good idea..... but it stuck to everything....
This bread wrapper plastic was very much easier to use......
One goal is to figure out if its possible ( I think it is) to cut an air layer not putting it in a protected environment....(plastic bag)
In order to figure that out ...I intend to not use a plastic bag unless the plant wilts...
I would have bet that Mr ickys plant in post 142 could have simply been cut and put in indirect light for a day.... and it would have been fine....
We aim to find out.....
grow huge moms outdoors and bring in rooms full of teenage clones.
I am just cool face it. Unless in my grow cause its like 80.
Clone one has a root out the bottom of the pot. It turned brown and I cant get a picture of it. So you will have to take my word for it.
So if roots are coming out of the pot bottom I have to assume that it is now a plant growing on its own.
So if roots are coming out of the pot bottom I have to assume that it is now a plant growing on its own.
