Hey ICMag! We are Lush LED Lighting!!!

[Miraculous Meds]

We'll see though, Just be patient guys. I know I can get 1gpw, but not sure beyond that because I have a plant limit to work with..

if ur talking just gpw flower like I do, then plant counts don't matter imo. What matters is dialing every aspect in and maximizing the canopy area.

 

[tenthirty]

if ur talking just gpw flower like I do, then plant counts don't matter imo. What matters is dialing every aspect in and maximizing the canopy area.

Couldn't have said it better myself!!

 

[slickster]

Cool thread.

Lush, why is it all stats are published as "equivalent to 1000w hps". Is that to highlight the power savings? Or is it because it's closer to the footprint of the equivalent? I'd like to see stats comparing 600 watts of hps/mh against 600 watts of LED, in terms of yield only. Some growers are fine with their current power consumption but are interested in increasing yield at the same power levels.

Does that make sense? I notice it's an industry-wide thing, reporting "equivalent to", so it's not a lush thing by any means. But for me it would be a good selling point.

 

[DrFever]

if ur talking just gpw flower like I do, then plant counts don't matter imo. What matters is dialing every aspect in and maximizing the canopy area.

I have done a few sog grows 76 plant rooms from 2 week up to 5 week veg times ..
And found growing less plants for me = more yields with packing a room problem is when harvest time comes your only harvesting pretty much 1/4 of plant if your lucky
in most cases less = more

 

[Dr.Young]

Yeah, it takes crazy effort, and you have to do it perpetual which makes it worse.. A hectic watering, and moving/clone cycle.

 

[DrFever]

So anyways there Dr young when is this so called grow suppose to start ???? i will be watching it.... Also the light you going to be using ???? is it the same one Lush is putting up against the 1000 hid like on there front page of site ????

If so it better hit min 2 pounds dry ,, If its going to raise any Eyebrows around here cost savings on power or not 7 percent savings to me is throwing a dog a bone not going to convert any day soon or is it 2 - 3 of them that will compete with a 1000
idunno

Or the one you got comparing to 600 ???

Anyways get the ball rolling and a nice vid cheers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhhpnyK4SvY

 

[Lush Lighting]

Cool thread.

Lush, why is it all stats are published as "equivalent to 1000w hps". Is that to highlight the power savings? Or is it because it's closer to the footprint of the equivalent? I'd like to see stats comparing 600 watts of hps/mh against 600 watts of LED, in terms of yield only. Some growers are fine with their current power consumption but are interested in increasing yield at the same power levels.

Does that make sense? I notice it's an industry-wide thing, reporting "equivalent to", so it's not a lush thing by any means. But for me it would be a good selling point.

Hi Slickster,

Thanks
As to your question, the "equivalent to" is set in place because HPS has set a standard. It's easier for people to compare what LED can do with what most people were already using in their gardens. We have yet to see anyone do a grow of HPS against LED with equivalent wattage. Everyone has matched yields before needing this many Lush LED watts.

 

[Lush Lighting]

Maybe a silly question but im wondering if u can touch a led like a t5. I know u shouldn't touch a hps. lol

How much distance from the top of the canopy to the bulbs? In the two biggest models? And what are the two biggest models?

thanks,

Good evening, Meds,

Maybe this was asked before my PM but I'll answer here anyway. Yes, you can touch a Lush LED. The light is intense with the 2x lens and feels like a nice radiant heat like the sun, but the unit itself stays cool to the touch. As for distance, with a Lush LED, you want to keep the light 2ft above the canopy. There are no bulbs, only diodes, so no bulbs to replace. Our biggest models are the Dominator 2x (435w) and our Dominator 2xxl (650w).
Thanks!

 

[Lush Lighting]

Do u care to share what some of the top yields were when using the 650w led? If it could compare to the yields I get off of 600w hps id be very interested.

Im also curious as to what u guys think the top people are yielding with 600w hps and 1000w hps.

Being realistic, we get 1gpw, so nearly a pound from the Dominator 2x and about 22oz from the Dominator 2xxl out of a 4x4 area. As for top growers (depending on factors such as the strain, organic vs synthetic, etc), 1gpw from HPS is usually over 25-30 square feet.

 

[Miraculous Meds]

I have done a few sog grows 76 plant rooms from 2 week up to 5 week veg times ..
And found growing less plants for me = more yields with packing a room problem is when harvest time comes your only harvesting pretty much 1/4 of plant if your lucky
in most cases less = more

It all comes down to maximizing what u want to do. But if we are talking gpw of all wattage used, meaning ac, dehuey, veg lights, flower lights, etc.. per year then sog always wins because u can use as many plants as needed to fill a canopy with zero veg time.

But like u, I find it easier with my particular needs and circumstances to maximize yields with large plants and less of them per light. Just easier for me to maintain instead of maintaining a clone farm.

Those 76 plant sog's with 2 to 5 weeks veg aint too bad, but when u get into the 50 to 75 plant per light sog's its literally a clone farm.

about harvesting a quarter of the plant.

The issue there makes large plant horizontal grows less efficient compared to vert large plants because u can utilize the whole plant instead of the top 18 to 24". imo

 

[Miraculous Meds]

Being realistic, we get 1gpw, so nearly a pound from the Dominator 2x and about 22oz from the Dominator 2xxl out of a 4x4 area. As for top growers (depending on factors such as the strain, organic vs synthetic, etc), 1gpw from HPS is usually over 25-30 square feet.

I think what u might be implying here is that u can get the 1gpw (potentially of course) in a smaller area than u could with an hps. Is that a fair assessment of what ur saying?

 

[DrFever]

It all comes down to maximizing what u want to do. But if we are talking gpw of all wattage used, meaning ac, dehuey, veg lights, flower lights, etc.. per year then sog always wins because u can use as many plants as needed to fill a canopy with zero veg time.

But like u, I find it easier with my particular needs and circumstances to maximize yields with large plants and less of them per light. Just easier for me to maintain instead of maintaining a clone farm.

Those 76 plant sog's with 2 to 5 weeks veg aint too bad, but when u get into the 50 to 75 plant per light sog's its literally a clone farm.

about harvesting a quarter of the plant.

The issue there makes large plant horizontal grows less efficient compared to vert large plants because u can utilize the whole plant instead of the top 18 to 24". imo

it was only 2000 watts if i would of placed for the space 10,000 watts would of been a stupid crazy harvest your not going to get much out of 2000 watts vert and 75 plant 3 - 5 week vegged

 

[DrFever]

Lush how come there is not more specs on your site i mean when i go and by a new car i look at build sheets you do not mention cree bridgelux epistar actual draw nothing if most led companies use claim 50 - 65 percent where did you come up with 435 from 650 watts your marketed


for instance i look at this light Spectrum king 450
it tells me full spectrum , types of LEDs actual draw 5 year warranty this tells me Dam these people stand behind there product something like this i can believe true 250 watts replacing 500 hid or 500 watts ( 2 of them ) to replace 1000 hid true 500 watts of LED


http://www.supergrowled.com/products/#sk450

http://www.supergrowled.com/download/getting_started_guide.pdf

 

[Dr.Young]

Lush how come you do not mention cree bridgelux epistar
actual draw nothing
where did you come up with 435 from 650 watts your marketed

It does state the actual watt draw.....

The Dominator 2x has 200x 3 watt LEDs, and actually draws 435w
The Dominator 2x XL has 300x 3 watt LEDs, and actually draws 650w

There was never a claim of 435w from 650w.

Also she has stated that being a unique build, they don't openly want to allow the light to be cloned by giving away unnecessary details.

I'm hoping to get a new camera to really get some awesome detailed/close-up pics for everyone. Kinda another new hobby I want to get into is photography, and doing youtube videos/reviews/un-boxings, and all kinds of stuff.
Canon EOS 7D Mark II would be qwaazy

 

[Lush Lighting]

I think what u might be implying here is that u can get the 1gpw (potentially of course) in a smaller area than u could with an hps. Is that a fair assessment of what ur saying?

Yes (Yay, a short answer! Lol).

 

[Lush Lighting]

Lush how come there is not more specs on your site i mean when i go and by a new car i look at build sheets you do not mention cree bridgelux epistar actual draw nothing if most led companies use claim 50 - 65 percent where did you come up with 435 from 650 watts your marketed
for instance i look at this light Spectrum king 450
it tells me full spectrum , types of LEDs actual draw 5 year warranty this tells me Dam these people stand behind there product something like this i can believe true 250 watts replacing 500 hid or 500 watts ( 2 of them ) to replace 1000 hid true 500 watts of LED

If I didn't stand behind my products, I wouldn't come here for a nightly beating. Honestly, it's like that old 1981 movie, "Clash of the Titans" where the princess sleepwalks into the basket to get lashes by Calibos.
If you're here because you're remotely interested in Lush, great, ask away. If you're not, why come here every day to rudely insinuate, accuse and twist everything? It's obvious you don't believe anything anyone says. I'm just getting a bit depressed when I think about having to come to this thread. No wonder poor Sam ditched it. You make everything so negative. What is this? If you can't join em', beat em'?
I've explained the Cree thing twice now. Go ahead, take me apart now. See ya tomorrow for that abuse, same time, same channel.
Good night all...

 

[2 Legal Co]

Renae;

You will have to admit that you are into some abuse! lol

Especially since you picked such a highly contentious business to get involved in.

I was looking at a thread here on ICMag yestereday, that is titled something about 'show us a picture of your Killawatt plugged into your LED fixture'. There are plenty of reasons to be leary of the perveyers of LEDs.

It looks like there are very few that draw anything close to what their model designations imply. Makes the printed packaging 100watt replacement seem highly questionable at best. Especially since the smaller print reads 18watt..... And that is CREE packaging.

I'm thinking I'll have to go buy a Kill a Watt just to check all my other draws as well.

But try not to take it personal. I can empathize, I used to sell used cars!!!!!! lol
The perception in that game (rightly so), is that you'd sell your mother for a $.25, and if your lips are moving, you ARE lying. Politicians being in the same category.

So take your beatings and act like you're really into them!!!

 

[KTF19XX]

Looks good. But how would you rate your product against these http://www.budmaster.co.uk

 

[GodsCronik]

If I didn't stand behind my products, I wouldn't come here for a nightly beating. Honestly, it's like that old 1981 movie, "Clash of the Titans" where the princess sleepwalks into the basket to get lashes by Calibos.
If you're here because you're remotely interested in Lush, great, ask away. If you're not, why come here every day to rudely insinuate, accuse and twist everything? It's obvious you don't believe anything anyone says. I'm just getting a bit depressed when I think about having to come to this thread. No wonder poor Sam ditched it. You make everything so negative. What is this? If you can't join em', beat em'?
I've explained the Cree thing twice now. Go ahead, take me apart now. See ya tomorrow for that abuse, same time, same channel.
Good night all...

Keep it up, I am watching this and a few other threads closly to make my decision on my next panel. IMHO once a company can offer a panel that is less than $2 per drawn watt it will be a good day. Closer to $1 per drawn watt would be nicer.

 

[Dr.Young]

Lush's website says it all literally....
They aren't making up that spectrum, or plant science itself to benefit their light. They are making their light to benefit plant science..


Lush really emphasize trying to emulate what the sun provides, and I cant complain.