Greenleaf Medicinial product recall

[Dr. Buddington]

Just because the recall is "voluntary", it does not signify the lack of health danger to the end user.
I'm wondering if they shipped product before receiving test results. According the MMPR all of the tests and quality assurance must be completed before the batch/lot is released for sale.

Chefboy, you are hilarious. I take it that you do not have a pesticide applicator certificate for greenhouse/mushroom house environments. Pesticide application is reserved as the very last option in any IPM regardless of the size of the facility. If you are constantly getting pests/mold, perhaps its time to clean the room and get a dehumidifier.
Edit: reviewing your production protocols and wearing clean work clothing in the growing areas goes a long way as well.

 

[foomar]

It could be a simple error or non compliance in the paperwork or packaging , if there was clear and present danger I would expect them to make it a compulsory recall as in the food industry.

Horsemeat in burgers here was voluntary as no health threat , ecoli on veg was compulsory as there was.

 

[Pangea]

Interesting to say the least. If it was something as trivial or simple as a labeling or a paperwork error I would imagine they would state that to alleviate concerns about their quality. Sketchy not just for Greenleaf/Tilray(same right?) but for HC and the MMPR.

 

[Dr. Buddington]

We can endlessly speculate as to the underlying reasons for the recall. I doubt we will ever know the truth. One thing is certain - this should add another facet to Conroys' argument.

 

[Buddha1]

I think what patients are concerned with are the trust issues and dishonesty displayed by these first LP's in there rush to be first.

We trust that our food and consumer produces and goods are safe for us, the consumer. A recall of any kind is always explained as to why, be it health concerns or compliance in the paperwork or packaging. With an explanation, the consumer can decide if its a true danger to his/her self or others. It is up to the consumer to ultimately decide to comply with the recall or not, this can not be done without information. I don't think anyone is against the MMPR program, if you can afford to purchase your medicine, its a good way to get a clean safe supply[I prefer to grow my own over purchase...but that's another conversation for another time].

With the discovery that Health Canada was allowing transfers of MMAR to MMPR, the confiscation of transfers and now a recall(voluntary or not), trust has been violated. The MMPR program has operated as the only legal source of Medical MJ in Canada for less than a month and it is already plagued with big troubles, where will it be in a year. In order for this program to survive we need to see more honesty and transparency, starting with information to the public from the recall and the confiscations of the transfers.

The MMPR could be a good program, with a few changes(allowing patients to grow if desired and doctors setting monthly or daily amounts), but it is self destructing, if this continues there will be no costumers trusting to purchase from the MMPR.

I hope the up and coming LP's learn from the mistakes exibited by the first LP's and start being more transparent, lowering there prices(if the prices were lower and more reasonable, LP's could still make healthy profits, but with volume instead of cost), and start showing some ethics...Or this program will not survive.

Peace...B

 

[chefboy6969]

chefboy...statements you make like "you are all childish" is childish in itself.

LPs are good for patients who can't or don't want to grow their own medicine.
LPs might be good for a push on getting health care coverage for the medicine through lobbying efforts with the government and insurance companies.
LPs probably will expand our knowledge of our medicine.
LPs will be providing a "cleaner, safer" medicine than some current growers. Some ( I have a small grow and don't have bugs and mildew issues, and don't need to use pesticides).
LPs should help in the push to finally make our medicine fully legal.

So there are some positives with LPs. Patients, and for that sake anyone should be able to grow marijuana legally imo.

chefboy, why not address my previous post? Why not try and establish an intelligent dialogue versus your one sided, antagonistic approach you so often take?

you need to learn how to read before you rip people's posts apart

i stated I think taking medicine from the sick is wrong

how many times can i say this

geez give it a rest already

peace
Chefboy

 

[tomjonesthe3rd]

We can endlessly speculate as to the underlying reasons for the recall. I doubt we will ever know the truth. One thing is certain - this should add another facet to Conroys' argument.

Why? Conroy's argument isn't that MMPR represents poorer quality. His issue is cost and access.

This recall shows the MMPR's strict regulations protect patients. How much black market stuff gets tested and recalled?

 

[chefboy6969]

How much black market stuff gets tested and recalled?

OMG thank you


someone with a brain


ding ding ding

Yes finally

thanks dude

peace
Chefboy

 

[leaffan]

chefboy, I know how to read, and comprehend what I've read.
Obviously the same can't be said for yourself.
So weak dude, so weak...

 

[chefboy6969]

chefboy, I know how to read, and comprehend what I've read.
Obviously the same can't be said for yourself.
So weak dude, so weak...

that's all you got?? i would expect MORE from such an intellect like yourself

Chefboy

 

[leaffan]

There's no point chefboy.
I will try and make it clear for you.
I read your post and responded.
You asked for input regarding LPs. I brought up some positive points that really haven't been expressed before. Some very valid points. I was hoping to engage in a conversation about these points. I was hoping to talk about the concern over the recall and the lack of information.
Look at how you respond. Read what you wrote. This is why there is no point in trying to engage in a meaningful conversation with yourself.
I did not say that you don't want patients to be able to grow themselves. Where did I say that? I only reiterated my own belief that everyone should be able to grow for themselves.
If you can't or don't want to grow yourself then an LP is a great alternative.
It would be nice if you took your own advice and read what was said before responding.

 

[Dr. Buddington]

Why? Conroy's argument isn't that MMPR represents poorer quality. His issue is cost and access.

This recall shows the MMPR's strict regulations protect patients. How much black market stuff gets tested and recalled?

I'd say that the recall indicates the ineptitude of the MMPR program. Recalling medicine after it has been released for consumption is a concerning sign.
Conroy could very well argue that the recall/Kelowna airport fiasco are strong indicators of the LP being unable to provide quality, tested medicine for the many patients who need it.

 

[RubeGoldberg]

will it be the largest medical review site in the world?

so much talk around this forum these days and nothing to back it up lol

Hey, the Canada section of ICmag.com is one of the true legit weed forums left since overgrow.com

 

[VagPuncher]

Is this Chad Clelland and Fonda's company?

Chad 'sold' somebody I know 2 licenses that they never received. That somebody isn't happy and Chad isn't gonna be either on e they see him.

 

[blastfrompast]

more than likely they tested a TINY portion...perhaps they missed some mold in a bud or 2....
damage control..

wait till PM...spidermites....and all the other critters start appearing and the usual arsenal of chemicals aren't available to these jokers...bwahahha..

 

[med-man]

I'll have my MMPR listing/rating/reviews site up soon so there will hopefully be able to get info from people as things happen.

best idea ever!

med-man

 

[med-man]

Maybe someone found out it was MMAR weed and it was better to "recall" it then get sued for false advertising.

hey buds

i know what you mean but

its illegal to advertise in the mmpr in the under the narcotics act. so that would void any real legal action, at present

med-man

 

[med-man]

Is this Chad Clelland and Fonda's company?

Chad 'sold' somebody I know 2 licenses that they never received. That somebody isn't happy and Chad isn't gonna be either on e they see him.

pangea / chad?

med-man

 

[VagPuncher]

No. Diff Chad.

 

[med-man]

Hey, the Canada section of ICmag.com is one of the true legit weed forums left since overgrow.com

the guy is just speaking for himself

never posted one pic of anything ever

med-man