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GROW CONTEST WINNER: 30 Sour Bubble Trees, 20 Gallon Smartpots, 10K Sealed!

PuReKnOwLeDgE

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Thanks Infinitesimal and Clarence!

The China Syndrome :)

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PuReKnOwLeDgE

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MrKillaDelph- You are not kiddin man, this is by far my best run of the sour bubble ever, this room is dialed to the T right now not changing much. Thanks


Alright IC just a small update on a couple projects outside the flower room I am stoked about.

First off we have my sour bubble f2 run. I cracked a pack of seeds from Bog's orginal return as mentioned before, the same batch I found my keeper in. Not only did I find my keeper, but everything in the pack was stellar. After that pack I ran 20 more seedlings or so, not seeing much like the first. The bx4 were all awesome but nothing like the orginal pack. Mostly the bx4 seemed bubba kushy rather then sour lime, sour red koolaid, brown sugar, or mocha latte I found in the first pack. Also the structure wasn't as prehistoric.

So I cracked the reminaing pack and got 5 plants, a couple seeds wouldn't pop, one went to mush, and pretty sure I lost one while screwing aorund with them checking them to see if they popped. It looks like 3 males and 2 females. I grew them out from seed, but they got so big I had to clone them. I took two clones of each, 5 for backup and 5 for an f2 run along side my keeper sour bubble from the first pack.

One male looks awesome, much like the male I loved from my first pack. I am anxious to isolate and test him out, all males will be held onto and tested by growing out the offspring. Anyways I am doing this run to preserve sour bubble in my favorite form thus far, a seed stash for a safety net and the fun of looking through them. I plan to stockpile sour bubble seeds! The pack I have is mixed bx3/bx4, mostly bx4 bog said, whatever each plant is they are sexy as hell and simliar to the first ones.

I potted these up right before the pictures and the 6 plants will be going into the chamber of love tomorrow night.

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2 clones of my studly male:

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Ok the other project is my deathbubble which I mentioned earlier in the thread. I reversed the Deathstar and hit the pollen onto my sour bubble keeper girl. I sucessfully made my first feminized beans, and these are the first fem beans I have ever grown out. I just have to see what I might find. I have 10 of these, they are now in ocean forest and doing great. In about 3 weeks I am putting two 5x5 flowering rooms together with 1K each with the OG vertical hoods, these will be the first to occupy that space.


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PuReKnOwLeDgE

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The next round for the big room, 24 sour bubbles are in there 20 gallon pots and grabbing ass. They have recently recieved 2 massive super cropping sessions, and their third topping. At this point I will just let them do their thing, they should get 14-20 days more veg. I am going to try 24 instead of 28, I had to give it a try so I can get my flip/flop operation at perpetual status. The goal of the flip/flop is to increase mine and my patients headstash by growing some more sativa leaning strains and exotics, work through my seed collection, and testing my projects. Here are the 24 in 20 gallon.

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PuReKnOwLeDgE

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Thanks Respect! Most the hardwork is over now except a few more upgrades here and there, now it is time to just have fun. Lots of work involved but it is worth it!
 

Infinitesimal

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Sick!

that Sour Bubble x Deathstar you gave a close up to... looks real nice.

I like the leaves on the male that is on the right... which one smells more SB and or stronger? Great Idea for a project BTW :tiphat:

Peace,
Infi
 

PuReKnOwLeDgE

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Inifinitesimal- Thanks you, both plants in the male picture are actually the same pheno. Right now I am working a couple different sour bubble crosses with more to come. I have two ecsd x sour bubble crosses, both males used were bx4 males. Also I am making new ecsd x sour bubble crosses with whatever males I get from here, I have an ecsd all lined up to recieve pollen. I have katsu bubba kush x the 2 different bx4 males, untested. I am thinking of doing a bubba kush bx3 with the sour bubble males.

I am going to search for the perfect candidate for the ecsd x sour bubble cross until I find it, I already have one REAL nice keeper, everyone who gets their hands on her loves her. Once I get enough of those I will move on to the f2 run and selection, I am labeling and keeping offspring according to which male was used. I will find me a winner stud and start the building blocks of that project. If deathbubble shows promise I am going to make a male/female cross and start working it. Having fun pollen chucking thats for sure, and once I start rolling through this seedstash alot more fun will be had I will get funky with sour bubble.
 

KT420

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In that pic above of your lights, is the fan PUSHING air though the lights? I thought it was better to pull... negative air pressure would be pulling air in through all the little cracks in the refelctors and around the glass, but by pushing, the lights heat is escaping back into the room, isn't it? Don't you think it'd be better to have the inline fan between the last light and where the duct exits the room?

Looks great otherwise, just thought i'd nitpick :p
 

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KT420- I'll let pure confirm this, but most peeps that push air through the reflectors do it to keep smell from being sucked through the tiny cracks and out of the room without being filtered. Or to keep their fan from burning up from sucking hot air through it while the lights are on. You are correct in the physics sense, it's easier to pull than push air.

Pure - Any chance some of these sour crosses will end up on the bay? I have a pack of sour bubble coming my way along with some others. Been thinking I should have grabbed a few more :biggrin:
 

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In that pic above of your lights, is the fan PUSHING air though the lights? I thought it was better to pull... negative air pressure would be pulling air in through all the little cracks in the refelctors and around the glass, but by pushing, the lights heat is escaping back into the room, isn't it? Don't you think it'd be better to have the inline fan between the last light and where the duct exits the room?

Looks great otherwise, just thought i'd nitpick :p

The only problem with your equation is he isn't venting the duct out the room. So your logic is incorrect. If you pay attention to the ducting it's not being vented out the room, all the fan is for is moving the heat away from the hoods and canopy.

So yeah the lights heats escaping back into the room but that's what his air conditioning is in place for. All the fans and hoods are doing is removing the heat from the canopy, they are not venting to the outside.
 

PuReKnOwLeDgE

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KT420- As Blazeoneup mentioned the air cooling is only taking the heat away from the canopy, the heat exits right at my air conditioner intake. When the AC is on which is 90% of the time during lights on the heat is sucked straight in, none escapes. In the flower room there are more fans you can't see as well. All my little cracks and openings are sealed as well, so heat does not dump back down on to my girls. In veg the heat is dumped up high, on the other side of the room a 14" max fan pushes heat that accumulates in the upeer section of the veg room into my flower/lung room to be cooled. Temps are dead on 24/7 365 in here.


Mister D- Absolutely seeds will be made available, but in the future. I fully intend on transitioning from production to focusing on breeding efforts. For now I am in the beginning stages of learning and experimenting. As soon as I have something for the market that I am willing to put my name behind it will be there. I will not release anything unless it is unique, tested, and stable. At this stage in my MMJ career I feel breeding is the last stage of evolution for me, and that is why I am full speed ahead on my efforts. At least as fast as my plant limit will allow.

Blaze- Thanks for clearing that up :)

supermanlives- She is dialed in for sure man, she is such an easy plant to grow.


Well I went ahead and ordered the Bonsai Hero Duo Trimmer package. After watching the demonstration video of Bonsai hero vs fiskars I had to give them a try. Soon as they get here I am going to give them a whirl. Here are some demonstrations:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0FGyngJ2F0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCCINLAFb2A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdaOOHnnxmQ
 
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mrkilladelph

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Damn! those trimmers look pretty sick! I have been helping a buddy trim a huge crop for the last week..still have another week or 2 of work to do. Im telling him about these things! let us know how you like em! you da man.
 

TURBD

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Couldn't you run the intake and exhaust for your lights in and out if the room and still keep the rest sealed. That's the way I ran my setup for years. Makes your AC work less. Use the heat to heat yor house.
That's a sick setup either way. Love your veg space.
 

Payaso

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I am so happy seeing this!!! Groovy indeed... Thank you for sharing this with us!
 

KT420

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Ah yes, somehow I overlooked the last word in the thread title... Sealed! and thought there was a 90 at the end of the ducting going through the wall. Even like that though, I'd think some heat would pushed out of the reflectors onto the canopy with that config, unless they are very well sealed like you said. I was thinking if you had the fan on the other side, and even if the cracks/glass were not so well sealed, if anything it would draw a little heat away from under the light and create a little air flow around/through the canopy. Don't mind me though, I'm a lowly .6k guy! haha

TURBD has a good idea too, except maybe holes in the wall or ceiling aren't desireable, and maybe he lives in a hot climate and doesn't want to heat the rest of the house. Completely sealed, lights included like this, is probably best for stealth, and hot air gushing out the side of the house could be seen by that evil eye in the sky.
 

blazeoneup

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Ah yes, somehow I overlooked the last word in the thread title... Sealed! and thought there was a 90 at the end of the ducting going through the wall. Even like that though, I'd think some heat would pushed out of the reflectors onto the canopy with that config, unless they are very well sealed like you said. I was thinking if you had the fan on the other side, and even if the cracks/glass were not so well sealed, if anything it would draw a little heat away from under the light and create a little air flow around/through the canopy. Don't mind me though, I'm a lowly .6k guy! haha

TURBD has a good idea too, except maybe holes in the wall or ceiling aren't desireable, and maybe he lives in a hot climate and doesn't want to heat the rest of the house. Completely sealed, lights included like this, is probably best for stealth, and hot air gushing out the side of the house could be seen by that evil eye in the sky.

You are right in the sense sucking is better then pushing when it comes to removing the heat. I was just putting it out there that he is running sealed co2 enriched grow.

Pk wants to push the air though, and I think the reason for that is the filters on the fans. If you look closely you'll notice he has filters on his intake for the fan, this keeps dust and stuff from building up to bad inside the hoods and on the glass shields. He could still use the filter the same way and put the fan on the opposite end and put the filter on the last hood and get the same effect.

I've been in the room and it's perfectly comfy so what he's doing is working good.
 

PuReKnOwLeDgE

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silver hawaiian- Thank you :)

mrkilladelph-I will do for sure, I cannot wait to get my hands on them. Hapy trimming!

Turbd- Yes I could exhaust the heat but I don't need to, plenty enough AC and at this point not to worried about the power bill. Doing that would just create more ways for co2, conditioned air, and stank to sneak out. Thanks, I lovvvvve to veg, it is my favorite part!

Payaso- Thank you and your welcome, good to see you here thanks for stopping in :)

Blaze- Thanks again, no need toc hange anything this giel is STABLE just the way she is. Canopy temps bareily ever budge.


Alright IC quick update. I started hacking on the deathstar, today is day 74. She is looking done and I am picking at it so it will take a couple days. I need some smoke for the trim session I am about to have. I was very impressed today wehen I hacked into her, I love the first time trimming something new it is when you really get to know her. In the room the smell was never to great, but once I brought into my trim room it was incredible. It had a real nice fuel reek coming from it, and something I remeber very well only having smoke sacks of the Dstar.

After diggin into her with the fiskars the ECSD in the strain was staring me right in the face, she takes on alot from that clone. The plant is yielding very well, I would guess at least 12oz+. Only time will tell I will report back on that.


Here is the Deathstar:

After I trimmed a few branches:

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I love her structure, she is an awesome bush with not as much stretch as the ecsd. She bushed out effortlessly and every branch looks like this.

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