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Gunnlæif
i'm with the capt. i'd spend $100,000.00 on tags...good stimulus program too!
Trophy hunters should be shot!
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i'm with the capt. i'd spend $100,000.00 on tags...good stimulus program too!
anyone who eats factory-farmed meat is supporting animal cruelty and suffering - on a scale much bigger than the killing of a few lions or other game.
many of you probably wont like that.... but it's the truth
VG
many of you probably wont like that.... but it's the truth
VG
Doobie's a trophy hunter, I hunt down the biggest fattest colas and cut those babies off right at the throat before they are allowed to mature! Just for my own pleasure of shooting a few pixels. The plant suffers, the species suffers as it is not allowed to propagate and survive naturally. All this just to satisfy my wanting pix of the biggest and baddest cannabis colas, no mercy, survival of the fittest. Every once in awhile I'll watch them bread, sick bastard, letting them dust a little pollen on a branch because I feel so shitty. Then burn the poor male in my woodstove. I don't even know if he's dead yet! Peace out..DD
lol, such cruelty can be justified to get a great pic like that ^^
^^^ Too true, as a vegan bowhunter (and certified instructor) I always donate the meat from my kills to Hunt 4 Homeless .... my way of paying back to the community
Plus of course my licence and tag fees pay for the DFG to look after the wildlife, which amounts to over $2000/yr
Last time I got a Canada goose tag in CA, the DFG gave me 3 extras free, as the geese numbers had increased to the point where they're damaging the tundra
There used to be several large herds of big horn sheep in SoCal, all but one herd disappeared were killed by mountain lions in 2005
Given that there is no painless death in the wild (animals either starve, dehydrate or get too old to run) ...... just how what you like them to die .....Euthanasia, suicide?
VG, there's a big difference though. People don't go into the supermarket because they enjoy the suffering of those animals, they go to eat. Hunters enjoy being the one to cause the suffering / death of the animal, and that's why I look down on them, for enjoying the suffering.
yeah i have a lot more respect for the people who are prepared to hunt and butcher their own meat. at least they are aware what is involved, and the animal was free and led a 'normal' life before it was killed.
nature is incredibly cruel at times, there is no escaping that. i think if animals need to be culled/managed then making people pay to hunt them and using that money to pay for conservation is reasonable.
and of course its often the case that the people responsible for the hunting are also responsible for the conservation of the animals and their habitats in the first place. that's the case for duck and stag hunting in the UK.
people often tend to not be objective about the subject of animals, meat and cruelty - e.g. folks being up in arms about the eating of dogs in china - not really any different to eating any other animal imo
VG
erictheoldfart
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Duck, thanks for inserting marijuana into this thread...a little humor,too. I hunt, and have for over 50 years. I have trapped for a living, helped run a guide outfit with my brother for a decade, fished every watercourse in this county, crabbed for lunch-money, surf-fished, and on and on....Hunters and outdoorsmen in general are the BEST conservationists as a rule. They Understand that, in the wild, there are 2-1/2 times as many off-spring born than their environment will support. Without controlled harvest..lotsa little critters would die to predators, or the unmerciful death of starvation! My rulebook for this life has given man-kind DOMINION over all life on earth. So, lets eat some veggies, smoke a little herb, and consume some un-tainted pure meat and in so doing, continue the fine balance that can only be achieved thru wise conservation. PEACE
hi GMT, im not sure the hunters want the animals to suffer or enjoy it, but it's a by-product of the hunting sometimes.
peeps go to the supermarket to eat, but the dont need to choose meat... they do so because they like the taste of it and are prepared to ignore or disregard the suffering, which of course is easier if the meat is cheep, and all nice and clean and wrapped in plastic.
VG
Huh. My family and I hunt to eat. Hunters enjoy causing animals to suffer? Prove it. Or is it just something you've made up in order to accept the detachment you enjoy buying meat on a styro.plate,wrapped in plastic that someone else has killed for you. Now there is something to look down on.
Ive worked in a slaughterhouse and on a veal farm. Veal is one of the meats I wont eat because of the cruelty required to raise those animals for market.
You will see far more cruelty and suffering in those places than you will in the woods with an ethical hunter.
Ive worked in a slaughterhouse and on a veal farm. Veal is one of the meats I wont eat because of the cruelty required to raise those animals for market.
You will see far more cruelty and suffering in those places than you will in the woods with an ethical hunter.
ok, capt, I will. A hunter doesn't need to hunt, they do it from choice, therefore they must enjoy it or they wouldn't do it. Ok? Done?
Also, I would never eat the same class of animal as myself, no mammals get eaten by GMT ever!
Bush learn to read please, don't just pick out one word in a sentence and focus on it, read the rest too.
Also, I would never eat the same class of animal as myself, no mammals get eaten by GMT ever!
Bush learn to read please, don't just pick out one word in a sentence and focus on it, read the rest too.
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You've proven nothing and I couldnt give two shits as to what you eat or dont eat.
I hunt to ensure my family quality protein. It doesnt cost me a lot of money. I enjoy the outdoors and the wildlife I observe while hunting. The fees I pay help preserve habitat that is enjoyed by all, hunter and non-hunter alike. Hunters help endangered species propagation,wetlands preservation etc. etc.. What have you done to further those causes? I would bet nothing.
And if you are not smart enough to separate the distinction between hunting and causing animals to suffer then yes, done.
I hunt to ensure my family quality protein. It doesnt cost me a lot of money. I enjoy the outdoors and the wildlife I observe while hunting. The fees I pay help preserve habitat that is enjoyed by all, hunter and non-hunter alike. Hunters help endangered species propagation,wetlands preservation etc. etc.. What have you done to further those causes? I would bet nothing.
And if you are not smart enough to separate the distinction between hunting and causing animals to suffer then yes, done.
Luv-U-Long-Time
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Was helping a friend train a new hunting dog(many moons ago) wasn't into hunting though.I shot a chukker that day and was physically ill from the experience.I enjoy shooting, just not hunting.
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buddymate
Lions arent rare,fallacy,numbers are bred every year in SA for high-fence gamefarm hunts BUT true wild lions cost maybe $20-30K for the hunt,its cash thats ploughed back into the local economy,without that cash funding game management etc theres going to be a free-for-all with rampant poaching,all game needs management whether as culls or paid-hunts
This shit makes me sick.....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...posing-trophy-carcasses-big-African-hunt.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...posing-trophy-carcasses-big-African-hunt.html
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greenmatter
i don't think you hang out with too many hunters. or you have never talked to the ones that i know.
good hunters go for a clean kill. they don't want to hurt something and have to chase it for miles ......... some of us would argue that the meat tastes like shit if the animal died in a state of panic, so most of us will go for a clean kill or go home empty handed
if you're gonna shoot a lion?...do it when their back is turned....
i agree. and i dont take trophy photos either . if i take a pic it is of the animal by itself in all its beauty.but too each their own.trophy huntin is big buisness$$$$$$$$$$$$$ lots of cash. almost all guides take people trophy hunting.
there are a few TV shows right now that have trophy hunting you can watch..
