U.S. Attorney Breaks Silence on Medical-Marijuana

[stihgnobevoli]

alls im saying is, if I was in cali... demand would drive supply not the other way around knaaaamean?

people lining up around the corner to buy $60+ eights at harborside or whatever...i would be selling $30 1/8s at another club not trying to match harborside. its not legal but its less than ILLEGAL, i would take advantage of all this new wiggle room and flood the streets with cheap good weed. instead of still trying to nickle and dime it like before when it was 100% illegal. trying to squeeze out the most i could get for an LB. thats silly imho. if you have a product with low overhead like weed i would sell it for as cheap as i could get people to buy it without actually giving it away and make my money in volume.

but im sure someones gonna come along and tell me how stupid that it because of blah blah blah. so just pretend like you have to pay for the sun and it doesnt rain free from the sky and weed doesnt grow in dirt.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

Low overhead? Hahhah open up a successful reputable shop & than tell me that....

 

[stihgnobevoli]

and there it is.

didn't these reputable shops all start somewhere? or was it from day one a trusted source in weed?

the reason the black market is the black market is the prices. if you are charging black market prices it is because you must be in it for the money right? everyone knows walmart is popular because they have the lowest prices, not because they are a trusted friend to the community. they make their money in volume. why would i go to a mom and pop shop and pay $20 for something i can get at walmart for $12? sure it may be worth $7 in reality and walmart is taking a loss. but eventually they will make it back in volume. those numbers aren't in the right proportions but you get the idea i hope?

same thing with weed right? if you can go to harborside and get ogk for $75, and you can come to me at my backyard 'spencery for the same ogk but for $40 why would you go to harborside? eventually i will be selling enough ogk at $40 1/8 where harborside will have to lower their prices to compete.

i think you guys have this whole market competition thing backwards. you lower prices to compete, not raise them lol.

 

[Lowman]

man you ******'s be blowin the shit out of me. california has the monopoly on well grown weed? are you fucking shitting me? whats so special about california exactly? is it in another dimension outside of time and space where everything is better? the 1000w bulbs acutally put out 20,000 watts of lumens each because of california's proximity to the ocean or something? is the dirt you guys grow in better somehow because of all the earthquakes? does the water magically grow weed without nutes when they do hydro in cali?

are the scissors sharper and thus able to trim buds better? do the jars they cure weed in cali have magic in them to cure buds better than anywhere else?

how the fuck can you grow weed yourself and see how much better properly grown weed is compared to commercial buds then say some silly shit like.

"oh the medicinal weed in cali will blow away any weed anywhere off GP simply because cali."

like really? we still doing this thing... in 2012?

I was thinking the same thing. Funny shit.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

Its the genetics. Head over to san diegos finest - not saying other places don't grow quality it just seems that most of the stuff from elsewhere ain't normally up to par. You ever hear anyone refer to another state quality wise? I never heard of people saying I got that chronic Kansas weed or that stanky Nevada love (OK-maybe I have heard that 2nd one but not what you thinking weed wise hahah). It's just true CA is home to some of the best weed in the world...and there is no debating it.

I really like the fact that people don't brag about certain places. Anonymity is good. The place has nothing to do with quality as long as it falls in between the right latitude lines, or grown indoor. grower skill has just as much to do with it as genetics. You should see what i can do with land race beans. I started out when I was 16 growing beans from bags of shwag. I was able to sell is at chronic prices, just from learning some easy grow techniques from friends and overgrow.com

 

[SpayceRayce]

Our movement would gain an infinite amount of support socially if the max profit mentality was removed. Sad but the free market system run wild is not our best answer to acceptance by mainstream society. Trying the pharma approach to a weed only engorges the lust for financial returns, which cheapens our model of "let us grow our little plants". Playing "their game" won't help, you have to remove the value of the product, flood the market with so much cheap and free weed that it becomes worthless (and cost prohibitive) to both enforce laws against it and keep guns to guard it. Call me Naive, Ishmael or just plain Goofy.

 

[stihgnobevoli]

no spayceRayce thats what i keep saying, in similar threads to this one discussing cali and their dispensaries and the feds. take the money out of the equation and suddenly there is no reason for agents kicking in doors. no assets to seize and fund new tanks and helichoppers and machien gans and battering rams and laser sights and flashbangs and shit.

but mostly im told im a stupid clown and i should try growing weed in the hot sun all day just to give it away or whatever tired cliche they have on hand at the moment.

no one said give it away for free, ust said stop charging black market prices and being all about profit. high prices are always about profit no matter how you slice it from manufacturing on down to end consumer.

there is always a way to get a cheaper product out, the part people have most issue is cutting down on some of their own personal fat. no one wants that. NIMBY right?

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

***sarcasm***

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no spayceRayce thats what i keep saying, in similar threads to this one discussing cali and their dispensaries and the feds. take the money out of the equation and suddenly there is no reason for agents kicking in doors. no assets to seize and fund new tanks and helichoppers and machien gans and battering rams and laser sights and flashbangs and shit.

but mostly im told im a stupid clown and i should try growing weed in the hot sun all day just to give it away or whatever tired cliche they have on hand at the moment.

no one said give it away for free, ust said stop charging black market prices and being all about profit. high prices are always about profit no matter how you slice it from manufacturing on down to end consumer.

there is always a way to get a cheaper product out, the part people have most issue is cutting down on some of their own personal fat. no one wants that. NIMBY right?

 

[bombadil.360]

Our movement would gain an infinite amount of support socially if the max profit mentality was removed. Sad but the free market system run wild is not our best answer to acceptance by mainstream society. Trying the pharma approach to a weed only engorges the lust for financial returns, which cheapens our model of "let us grow our little plants". Playing "their game" won't help, you have to remove the value of the product, flood the market with so much cheap and free weed that it becomes worthless (and cost prohibitive) to both enforce laws against it and keep guns to guard it. Call me Naive, Ishmael or just plain Goofy.

when you're right, you're right.

k+

however, greed has been here for a while now (here as in the world). We would expect that out of all people, herb-lovers would be less prone to greed, but that's just hippy fantasy nonsense.

greed is here to stay, sadly. regardless of whether it is free market or communism.

peace

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

^His pants say B.H.O.

 

[VirginHarvester]

greed is here to stay, sadly. regardless of whether it is free market or communism.

peace

People in the pot business might "love" pot but they want to make money, and many are making big money.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

^No there not people making big money. There is a few people making a comfortable living and the rest struggle to get by and not get busted. It is in the small business realm for sure still. There is no American Billionaires selling weed. Money aint big till it's billion baby! lol. If there were it would be legal. all the billionaire drug dealers in america sell opiates and amphetamines to every one from kids to old people under the guise of medicine with a special government license to do so with out penalty. Then turn around and say cancer is just an excuse to smoke pot, and is not medicine. Yet it is ok for a kid to get pilled out with amphetamines like Riddlin and Aderall so he/ she will "concentrate and be normal" WTMFF (what the mother fucking fuck)

 

[Guest 88950]

prices are what they are b/c of the legal / regulatory climate.

if the laws were in line with the Canna trade being 100% legal both on the state and federal level then alot of growers would be out of business b/c the price per lb would be extremely low.

i know some would disagree that quality will always fetch top dollar but if the price per lb didnt lower then i would bet that a majority of produce farmers would start growing Cannabis b/c they will get 5x - 10x more per lb. how much would produce increase in price due to supply & demand?

i dont agree with the high prices in med states but would you barely get by knowing that you still run the risk of having legal issues? hell no, try retaining a decent attny to represent you and ask if they would take the case pro bono......free. i bet you'll get a big fat NO.

med states are good for patients and personal growers but large producers of cannabis still risk similar legal troubles as those in non med states. they may be subject to less severe penalties but legal fees are still going to be over $10k to get you started.

the AG's who made the decision to crack down on dispensarys / producers by threatening seizure of assets in order to stop the illegal distribution of cannabis should be questioned on this tactic and asked if they think it is a successful tactic. if so then they should be asked if they plan on using the same approach to stop the illegal trade in Oxycontin's and other abused pharmaceuticals.

doctors, distributors and manufacturer's of these highly addictive drugs all have $$$ and assets to be seized.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

I dont care if drops to 500 a pound for top quality. if it is legal I will just grow literal tons.

 

[DoobieDuck]

I dont care if drops to 500 a pound for top quality. if it is legal I will just grow literal tons.

..and Yah..if it's legal we won't be watching our friends go to jail. Cheers...DD

 

[Guest 88950]

^^^^that would be great to be able to grow tons of cannabis. alot of work but to see sprawling fields of cannabis would be nice.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

I'm not afraid of work. I am afraid of loss of freedom.

 

[SeaMaiden]

I'm not afraid of work. I am afraid of loss of freedom.

I'm not afraid of work. I am afraid of loss of freedom.

I'm not afraid of work. I am afraid of loss of freedom.

I'm not afraid of work. I am afraid of loss of freedom.

I'm not afraid of work. I am afraid of loss of freedom.

I'm not afraid of work. I am afraid of loss of freedom.

^^^ THIS BEARS REPEATING.

 

[Guest 88950]

agreed

 

[MiMedicineMan]

I'm not in Cali...so I don't know the medical law there....but I say fuck the dispensaries. Grow your own or have a legal caregiver. Thats how we do it in Michigan. I'm all for shutting down the money thieves in the dispensaries. They don't care about the people that need it...they care about the bottom line.

I agree 100% lowman, but what about the people who can't get their meds except from a dispensary. I'm a caregiver in michigan and I have patients that I take care of, but If I run out of meds the dispensary is a viable place to get overages.

Or what about people that don't want to deal with a caregiver. The way our law is written, they want you to keep to going to the black market to get your meds. That's what I don't agree with. I think a dispensary is better any day. My brother got killed buying drugs at a drug house. Should we send otherwise law abiding citizens to these areas to buy medical cannabis? I think not. Fuck the dispensaries Just like fuck the government or fuck public schools. Of course theyre fucked, but since they're here, we should try to make them better.
Outlawing dispensaries is like outlawing weed. We don't need help governing ourselves, we need educated consumers.

I appreciate what you are donig for the cause lowman. I am after a similar goal. Hopefully I will see you around.