Lol, looks like cell phone propaganda.
The Emerald Triangle Could Be In Grave Danger....
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David762
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Looks like the term "Sunshine Units" will be making a big comeback in general usage, thanks to our corporate owners of the Main Stream Media. General Electric, heavily involved in the nuclear power industry like Japan's Mark 1 reactors now in the news, either owns or did own a big chunk of MSM.
I'm certain that They (G.E. or the government) wouldn't sugar-coat the effects of this ongoing nuclear disaster, right? I've got to say that President Obama's timing is flawed -- he proposes new oil drilling initiatives and shortly thereafter the Gulf of Mexico fiasco occurs; he proposes new domestic nuclear power plant construction along with the associated taxpayer funds and shortly thereafter Japan goes critical. That's some powerfully bad karma, imvho.
I'm certain that They (G.E. or the government) wouldn't sugar-coat the effects of this ongoing nuclear disaster, right? I've got to say that President Obama's timing is flawed -- he proposes new oil drilling initiatives and shortly thereafter the Gulf of Mexico fiasco occurs; he proposes new domestic nuclear power plant construction along with the associated taxpayer funds and shortly thereafter Japan goes critical. That's some powerfully bad karma, imvho.
David762
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While I understand that cannabis is very likely THE biggest cash crop in any USA State, it is for the present time "illegal". I hate to imagine how the worse case scenario regarding Japan's nuclear power plant meltdowns might affect the USA's legal cash crops. California, Oregon, and Washington State would be devastated economically. How rapidly would these States depopulate, with a mad dash to "anywhere else"?
On a personal note, I just moved from the Right Coast to the Left Coast. Oops. South America is beginning to look pretty good right now. Trade winds don't cross the Equator, mostly, although ocean currents do.
Yo habla espaniol, pero poquito y malo. Donde vas ahora, mas? Buenos Ares?
On a personal note, I just moved from the Right Coast to the Left Coast. Oops. South America is beginning to look pretty good right now. Trade winds don't cross the Equator, mostly, although ocean currents do.
Yo habla espaniol, pero poquito y malo. Donde vas ahora, mas? Buenos Ares?
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el dub
No david, it appears that you really enjoy looking at "worse case scenarios."
Vamos a quedar nos in California. No tengo mucho miedo de lo que esta pasando in Japon, pero me siento mal para la gente de esa pais.
lw
Vamos a quedar nos in California. No tengo mucho miedo de lo que esta pasando in Japon, pero me siento mal para la gente de esa pais.
lw
starwatcher
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Nothing to see here go back to work. Make your money, pay taxes, keep the economy going er I should say the military industrial complexe or the united states of corporate america.
Meanwhile I have friends who live in northern Japan. Within 50 miles of the reactor. Guess what???? They fear the govt. is lying about how dire the situation is.(big suprise) So they took it upon themselves to get the hell out of the country. As are many others who have the option.
And you guys saying it will "disipate" as it crosses the pacific. LOL, well disipate does not mean disapear. Some of the particals will be around 20,000+ years before they finally break down.
One more point, just as we all (everyone on this planet) have a partical from chernoblye in us. We will each, in short time have some of fukushima in us.
Meanwhile I have friends who live in northern Japan. Within 50 miles of the reactor. Guess what???? They fear the govt. is lying about how dire the situation is.(big suprise) So they took it upon themselves to get the hell out of the country. As are many others who have the option.
And you guys saying it will "disipate" as it crosses the pacific. LOL, well disipate does not mean disapear. Some of the particals will be around 20,000+ years before they finally break down.
One more point, just as we all (everyone on this planet) have a partical from chernoblye in us. We will each, in short time have some of fukushima in us.
David762
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Not so much. I don't "enjoy" it.
Not so much. I don't "enjoy" it.
Not so much. I don't "enjoy" it. I just have a really big problem with naysayers who deny the risk from these reactor meltdowns. I have been around the block a few times, and I have found that it is usually those people who have a vested personal financial interest in only looking at the most rosy scenario that adopt your attitude.
FWIW: I am not the only one to consider these reactor meltdowns to be of considerable concern here in the USA. Three of my favorite sources for electronic gear on the internet have sold out of all their geiger counters, have stopped taking advance orders for new stock, and don't know when they will have them in stock again. With the appropriate sensor head, they cost between $800 and $1400. And the USA has officially run out of stockpiles of potassium iodide that normally would be made available for up to 10 million people.
Not so much. I don't "enjoy" it.
Not so much. I don't "enjoy" it. I just have a really big problem with naysayers who deny the risk from these reactor meltdowns. I have been around the block a few times, and I have found that it is usually those people who have a vested personal financial interest in only looking at the most rosy scenario that adopt your attitude.
FWIW: I am not the only one to consider these reactor meltdowns to be of considerable concern here in the USA. Three of my favorite sources for electronic gear on the internet have sold out of all their geiger counters, have stopped taking advance orders for new stock, and don't know when they will have them in stock again. With the appropriate sensor head, they cost between $800 and $1400. And the USA has officially run out of stockpiles of potassium iodide that normally would be made available for up to 10 million people.
David762
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Amen to that.
Amen to that.
Amen to that.
A slight correction, however. Pu-239 (plutonium) has a half-life of 24,000 years -- figure on at least 5 X the half-life for a more or less tolerable level of radiation.
(1) 24,000 years ==> 50% of original radiation gone
(2) 48,000 years ==> 50% of 50% (75%) gone
(3) 72,000 years ==> 50% of 50% of 50% (82.5%) gone
(4) 96,000 years ==> 50% of (12.5%) more gone (91.25%)
(5) 120,000 years ==> 50% of ( 8.75%) more gone (95.625%)
However, the metal plutonium is itself poisonous when inhaled or ingested in the human body.
If the lifespan of children alive today is longer than that of their parents, it will be a miracle. Especially here in the USA, the only industrialized nation in the world without provision for the health care of all it's citizens.
Amen to that.
Amen to that.
A slight correction, however. Pu-239 (plutonium) has a half-life of 24,000 years -- figure on at least 5 X the half-life for a more or less tolerable level of radiation.
(1) 24,000 years ==> 50% of original radiation gone
(2) 48,000 years ==> 50% of 50% (75%) gone
(3) 72,000 years ==> 50% of 50% of 50% (82.5%) gone
(4) 96,000 years ==> 50% of (12.5%) more gone (91.25%)
(5) 120,000 years ==> 50% of ( 8.75%) more gone (95.625%)
However, the metal plutonium is itself poisonous when inhaled or ingested in the human body.
If the lifespan of children alive today is longer than that of their parents, it will be a miracle. Especially here in the USA, the only industrialized nation in the world without provision for the health care of all it's citizens.
Drugcheese
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Chinese coal plants release more radiation, on average, than Chernobyl did.
Your chart doesn't show the radiation exposure of the millions of cells that will be surrounding that tiny particle of radioactive metal floating in the air.
Keep your kids at home and limit your time outside. This isn't going to stop anytime soon and will only be getting worse over the next several decades.
Get used to it... life as you know it is changing FAST.
Keep your kids at home and limit your time outside. This isn't going to stop anytime soon and will only be getting worse over the next several decades.
Get used to it... life as you know it is changing FAST.
Just so we are ALL clear..
Take a quick look, its quite interesting.
Are you talking about people in Japan or USA? If Japan, I could go along with what you're saying for most regions. If you're talking about the USA, I have to disagree.
Things do not move for free. Everything takes energy. There is not enough energy for the heavier, more 'worrisome' particles to get over here. Just isn't.
Pray/think about those in Japan, take comfort that you (if you live in the USA) have very little to worry about as of now.
FWIW: I am not the only one to consider these reactor meltdowns to be of considerable concern here in the USA. Three of my favorite sources for electronic gear on the internet have sold out of all their geiger counters, have stopped taking advance orders for new stock, and don't know when they will have them in stock again. With the appropriate sensor head, they cost between $800 and $1400. And the USA has officially run out of stockpiles of potassium iodide that normally would be made available for up to 10 million people.
If the media started talking about spontaneous combustion occurring (not necessarily people), I guarantee you (and I dont guarantee many things) that fire extinguishers will be sold out ASAP.
Its the control of the media. Just because people react to something, doesn't mean their reaction is justified.
And taking potassium iodine here in the states is a joke.
Half life of I-131 is only 8 days, and it takes that or longer to get here from Japan. Not even considering the amount lost to the ocean on that huge trip. Its pointless to take it if you live here.
If you're in Japan, and 'close', I would probably have some on hand.
Don't believe it? Give it 6 months to a year and then re-read what I wrote. Tokyo will be the first major city to become a near ghost town.
wager?
even better
On the tube, I saw an American gentleman that worked at the nuclear site. He described the seawater surpassing the wall and hitting the site "instantaneously". He booked a plane out of Japan and back to the states.
He didn't regard the workers as heros but respected their circumstances. My thoughts go to Japan right much these days. I care about y'all west coasters too. Hang tough.
He didn't regard the workers as heros but respected their circumstances. My thoughts go to Japan right much these days. I care about y'all west coasters too. Hang tough.
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el dub
david: I've also been around the block a time or two. And I don't claim the situation to be rosy and risk free. That would be silly. On the other hand, I'm not willing to adopt the "worse case scenario," as being the likely path at present. (As I see you and others doing in this thread.)
Btw, not everyone refusing to embrace the "doom and gloom" scenario you and some others are promoting in this thread is a corporate/gubmit shill. I'm hoping you can realize some of us just don't claim to have all the answers.
I feel bad for people in Japan. There is a tragedy unfolding there. Lives have been lost. Hardships are being endured on a daily basis. I'm not sure anyone knows how the U$ will be affected by the situation at hand.
lw
Btw, not everyone refusing to embrace the "doom and gloom" scenario you and some others are promoting in this thread is a corporate/gubmit shill. I'm hoping you can realize some of us just don't claim to have all the answers.
I feel bad for people in Japan. There is a tragedy unfolding there. Lives have been lost. Hardships are being endured on a daily basis. I'm not sure anyone knows how the U$ will be affected by the situation at hand.
lw
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draco
from what i heard this am, the world is going to see it's first full on meltdown very soon.
judging by what the authorities are saying now and their public posturing it has already happened...
fuck, this is bad; it is out of control - and i'm just referring to the lying. it will get worse as the disaster deepens...
judging by what the authorities are saying now and their public posturing it has already happened...
fuck, this is bad; it is out of control - and i'm just referring to the lying. it will get worse as the disaster deepens...
Yeah I just heard the situation got a bit elevated. Its still not a Chernobyl, but I would much rather do without this crisis..
Pray for the Japanese people, pray for the management/workers staying at the plant (several have already died). They are working so hard, and their families miss them dearly. Its a very sad course of events..
Pray for the Japanese people, pray for the management/workers staying at the plant (several have already died). They are working so hard, and their families miss them dearly. Its a very sad course of events..
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