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BreakingBad
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Here's Wikipedia's version:
The Deepwater Horizon oil spill, also called the BP Oil Spill, the Gulf of Mexico oil spill or the Macondo blowout,[3][4][5][6] is a massive ongoing oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, off the coast of Louisiana, now considered the largest oil spill in US history.[7] The spill stems from a sea floor oil gusher that started with an oil well blowout on April 20, 2010. The blowout caused a catastrophic explosion on the Deepwater Horizon offshore oil drilling platform that was situated about 40 miles (64 km) southeast of the Louisiana coast. The explosion killed 11 platform workers and injured 17 others; another 98 people survived without serious physical injury.[8]
The gusher originates from a deepwater oil well 5,000 feet (1,500 m) below the ocean surface. Estimates of the amount of oil being discharged range from BP's current estimate of over 5,000 barrels (210,000 US gallons; 790,000 litres) to as much as 100,000 barrels (4,200,000 US gallons; 16,000,000 litres) of crude oil per day. The exact spill flow rate is uncertain – in part because BP has refused to allow independent scientists to perform accurate measurements – and is a matter of ongoing debate.[9] The resulting oil slick covers a surface area of at least 2,500 square miles (6,500 km2), with the exact size and location of the slick fluctuating from day to day depending on weather conditions.[10] Scientists have also discovered immense underwater plumes of oil not visible from the surface.
BP (formerly British Petroleum) is the operator and principal developer of the Macondo Prospect oil field, which was thought to hold as much as 50 million barrels (7.9×106 m3) of oil prior to the blowout, by BP's own estimate.[11] BP is the lead stakeholder, with a 65% working interest in the project; Anadarko Petroleum Corporation and a division of Mitsui each hold minority shares. The Deepwater Horizon drilling platform had been leased by BP from its owner, Transocean Ltd.[12] The U.S. Government has named BP as the responsible party in the incident and officials have said the company will be held accountable for all cleanup costs resulting from the oil spill.[13][14] BP has accepted responsibility for the oil spill and the cleanup costs, but indicated they are not at fault as the platform was run by Transocean personnel.[15] It is the third serious incident at a BP-run site in the United States in the last five years, following the Texas City Refinery explosion in 2005, and the Prudhoe Bay oil spill in 2006. These previous incidents, attributed to lapses in safety and maintenance, have contributed to the damage to BP's reputation and market valuation since the spill.[16][17]
The spill is now thought to have eclipsed the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill as the largest in US history.[18] Estimates of the total amount of oil spilled are 450,000–930,000 barrels (19,000,000–39,000,000 US gallons; 72,000,000–148,000,000 litres).[19] Experts fear that due to factors such as petroleum toxicity and oxygen depletion, it will result in an environmental disaster, damaging the Gulf of Mexico fishing industry, tourism industry, and habitat of hundreds of bird species.[20][21] Crews are working to block off bays and estuaries, using anchored barriers, floating containment booms, and sand-filled barricades along shorelines. There are a variety of ongoing efforts, both short and long term, to contain the leak and stop spilling additional oil into the Gulf.
I have a feeling the "pressure control systems" used to keep the oil well under control just didn't "fail".
Oh, just how jet fuel burned the 2 towers down when we know jet fuel can't burn steel?
http://guardian.150m.com/wtc/how-hot.htm
IN MY OPINION?
Sounds like a black operation to destroy the pressure control system to cause a disaster to allow for new policy, new laws or new corporate contracts. We'll soon see.
The Deepwater Horizon oil spill, also called the BP Oil Spill, the Gulf of Mexico oil spill or the Macondo blowout,[3][4][5][6] is a massive ongoing oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, off the coast of Louisiana, now considered the largest oil spill in US history.[7] The spill stems from a sea floor oil gusher that started with an oil well blowout on April 20, 2010. The blowout caused a catastrophic explosion on the Deepwater Horizon offshore oil drilling platform that was situated about 40 miles (64 km) southeast of the Louisiana coast. The explosion killed 11 platform workers and injured 17 others; another 98 people survived without serious physical injury.[8]
The gusher originates from a deepwater oil well 5,000 feet (1,500 m) below the ocean surface. Estimates of the amount of oil being discharged range from BP's current estimate of over 5,000 barrels (210,000 US gallons; 790,000 litres) to as much as 100,000 barrels (4,200,000 US gallons; 16,000,000 litres) of crude oil per day. The exact spill flow rate is uncertain – in part because BP has refused to allow independent scientists to perform accurate measurements – and is a matter of ongoing debate.[9] The resulting oil slick covers a surface area of at least 2,500 square miles (6,500 km2), with the exact size and location of the slick fluctuating from day to day depending on weather conditions.[10] Scientists have also discovered immense underwater plumes of oil not visible from the surface.
BP (formerly British Petroleum) is the operator and principal developer of the Macondo Prospect oil field, which was thought to hold as much as 50 million barrels (7.9×106 m3) of oil prior to the blowout, by BP's own estimate.[11] BP is the lead stakeholder, with a 65% working interest in the project; Anadarko Petroleum Corporation and a division of Mitsui each hold minority shares. The Deepwater Horizon drilling platform had been leased by BP from its owner, Transocean Ltd.[12] The U.S. Government has named BP as the responsible party in the incident and officials have said the company will be held accountable for all cleanup costs resulting from the oil spill.[13][14] BP has accepted responsibility for the oil spill and the cleanup costs, but indicated they are not at fault as the platform was run by Transocean personnel.[15] It is the third serious incident at a BP-run site in the United States in the last five years, following the Texas City Refinery explosion in 2005, and the Prudhoe Bay oil spill in 2006. These previous incidents, attributed to lapses in safety and maintenance, have contributed to the damage to BP's reputation and market valuation since the spill.[16][17]
The spill is now thought to have eclipsed the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill as the largest in US history.[18] Estimates of the total amount of oil spilled are 450,000–930,000 barrels (19,000,000–39,000,000 US gallons; 72,000,000–148,000,000 litres).[19] Experts fear that due to factors such as petroleum toxicity and oxygen depletion, it will result in an environmental disaster, damaging the Gulf of Mexico fishing industry, tourism industry, and habitat of hundreds of bird species.[20][21] Crews are working to block off bays and estuaries, using anchored barriers, floating containment booms, and sand-filled barricades along shorelines. There are a variety of ongoing efforts, both short and long term, to contain the leak and stop spilling additional oil into the Gulf.
I have a feeling the "pressure control systems" used to keep the oil well under control just didn't "fail".
Oh, just how jet fuel burned the 2 towers down when we know jet fuel can't burn steel?
http://guardian.150m.com/wtc/how-hot.htm
IN MY OPINION?
Sounds like a black operation to destroy the pressure control system to cause a disaster to allow for new policy, new laws or new corporate contracts. We'll soon see.
plantagenet
Member
BP is only worried about how much it will cost them and if they can survive like Exxon did in the Valdez spill. Exxon is Exxon Mobile these days though. But I would bet the consumers of energy will pay the price. Gas prices will soar. I don't know the answer as we can't keep relying on the Mideast to keep us in oil and we can't let this happen again on our shores. I seriously doubt any new deep water drilling will happen again soon though.
I mean will BP want to go after that oil they just plugged off and drill nearby?
But nuclear energy is a turn-off, but it seems to work out in France and they don't have the pollution problems we have here in America.
But those guys just killed[11] on that oil platform .... BP just considers them collateral damage as well as the PPL who made their living fishing, boating, and restaurants and bars. We don't have much else here in Florida but tourism.
BreakingBad
Member
I wonder who's going to get PAID to clean this mess up.
Think about it...
We bombed the fuck out of Iraq and Afghanistan for absolutely NO reason, and who got a good majority of the oil contracts, protection contracts and construction contracts? US corporations.
It's our history...cause war, destroy, rebuild, profit. I don't think this spill will cause a war, but SOMEONE (or some people) are going to make a shitload of money off of this.
Think about it...
We bombed the fuck out of Iraq and Afghanistan for absolutely NO reason, and who got a good majority of the oil contracts, protection contracts and construction contracts? US corporations.
It's our history...cause war, destroy, rebuild, profit. I don't think this spill will cause a war, but SOMEONE (or some people) are going to make a shitload of money off of this.
Guido Sarducci
Member
[FONT=verdana, arial] Interesting blog comment from iCNN, regarding the psi at the BOP and at the area that BP drilled:
"Not to scare anyone, but from someone familiar with spills like DH, including the magnesium blocks and risers, this is the way I see it. First, the problem started when an axial drill bit system was moved while the seal was in a ''closed'' position. This damaged the rubber seal and pieces of that seal came to the top in the mud used for drilling. When the engineers saw that, the tested the blowout preventer with a pressure test. OK, no problem, but the test they used was based on a 1960's patent using an algorithm that never thought humans could drill 5,000 feet underwater. Took 8 hours for pressures to equalize, BP rushed everything, and the top blew off. Whooops.
They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 18,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This it right on the edge of what human technology can do. Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it shot up through several seals and barriers before exploding, causing the rig to sink. Take a moment to grasp the import of that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it. Pressure estimates are 15,000 psi for the BOP and 21 inch riser. Some speculate the pressure in the area where they drilled (Mississippi Block 252 aka Macondo Prospect) could be a multiple of 10x, incredible pressure that can move about anything on earth. This is a HUGE deposit, Natural Gas and Oil is leaking out of the deposit as far inland as Central Alabama and way over into Florida and even over to Louisiana almost as far as Texas. If things break apart, it could be like the Yellowstone Caldera geyser, except from below a mile of sea, with a 1/4-mile opening, with up to 150,000 psi of oil and natural gas behind it. That would be an extinction event.
A junk shot or similar mud/heavy cement measure might bust open additional weaknesses they don't know about (or blow the thing wide open), hence their attempt to x-ray the remaining visible pipe before attempting the next "guess." Even the "relief" well is not a sure thing, that's why BP is drilling TWO reliefs in case the 1st doesn't work. Some countries require 4 relief wells."
As for the nuke it theory, high energy scientists had this to say:
"As a person who did design and testing of "devices" at the Nevada Test Site (NTS) from mid-70's to mid 80's and participated on over a dozen sub-surface and tunnel shots, use of a "device" is not a practicable solution in this environment. As I had stated in a previous post elsewhere, the issue is superheated steam under incredible pressure about 100 microseconds after 0 time (detonation). When we tested at NTS we were able to ensure that the shot hole was absolutely dry (it was not easy to keep a shaft 3-5000 feet deep dry even in the desert strata. In the ocean their would be no way to keep the hole and the evolving cavity dry and any water (and this is in the ocean after all) will flash to steam and fracture its way out to lower pressure. To give an idea of what happens when a small amount of water was flashed - google on Baneberry Event, Nevada Test Site, December 1969. I am afraid that it could cause a larger fissure as it vents, with now not only oil, but also gamma and beta particles (radio-contamination) and a far worse leak. The reasons it worked for the Russians (if this is a true statement) was that it was on land. However, IF it could be done, and the cavity chimneyed properly, it would seal the hole - the chances of keeping the deep ocean at over 2300 PSI pressure out a shot hole, are vanishingly small (admitting nothing is impossible). What a mess....."
"...The heights of surface waves generated by deep underwater explosions are greater because more energy is delivered to the water. Deep underwater explosions are thus particularly able to damage coastal areas, because surface waves increase in height as they move over shallow water, and can flood the land beyond the shoreline. Many of the theories and concepts about these waves are similar to those that are applicable to other types of surface waves, in particular, tsunamis, and waves generated by the fall of a meteor."
And then there was Chris Matthews idea - "Send the Navy SEALS down to take care of it." Yeah, right. Maybe have Bruce Willis and his crew also.
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"Not to scare anyone, but from someone familiar with spills like DH, including the magnesium blocks and risers, this is the way I see it. First, the problem started when an axial drill bit system was moved while the seal was in a ''closed'' position. This damaged the rubber seal and pieces of that seal came to the top in the mud used for drilling. When the engineers saw that, the tested the blowout preventer with a pressure test. OK, no problem, but the test they used was based on a 1960's patent using an algorithm that never thought humans could drill 5,000 feet underwater. Took 8 hours for pressures to equalize, BP rushed everything, and the top blew off. Whooops.
They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 18,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This it right on the edge of what human technology can do. Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it shot up through several seals and barriers before exploding, causing the rig to sink. Take a moment to grasp the import of that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it. Pressure estimates are 15,000 psi for the BOP and 21 inch riser. Some speculate the pressure in the area where they drilled (Mississippi Block 252 aka Macondo Prospect) could be a multiple of 10x, incredible pressure that can move about anything on earth. This is a HUGE deposit, Natural Gas and Oil is leaking out of the deposit as far inland as Central Alabama and way over into Florida and even over to Louisiana almost as far as Texas. If things break apart, it could be like the Yellowstone Caldera geyser, except from below a mile of sea, with a 1/4-mile opening, with up to 150,000 psi of oil and natural gas behind it. That would be an extinction event.
A junk shot or similar mud/heavy cement measure might bust open additional weaknesses they don't know about (or blow the thing wide open), hence their attempt to x-ray the remaining visible pipe before attempting the next "guess." Even the "relief" well is not a sure thing, that's why BP is drilling TWO reliefs in case the 1st doesn't work. Some countries require 4 relief wells."
As for the nuke it theory, high energy scientists had this to say:
"As a person who did design and testing of "devices" at the Nevada Test Site (NTS) from mid-70's to mid 80's and participated on over a dozen sub-surface and tunnel shots, use of a "device" is not a practicable solution in this environment. As I had stated in a previous post elsewhere, the issue is superheated steam under incredible pressure about 100 microseconds after 0 time (detonation). When we tested at NTS we were able to ensure that the shot hole was absolutely dry (it was not easy to keep a shaft 3-5000 feet deep dry even in the desert strata. In the ocean their would be no way to keep the hole and the evolving cavity dry and any water (and this is in the ocean after all) will flash to steam and fracture its way out to lower pressure. To give an idea of what happens when a small amount of water was flashed - google on Baneberry Event, Nevada Test Site, December 1969. I am afraid that it could cause a larger fissure as it vents, with now not only oil, but also gamma and beta particles (radio-contamination) and a far worse leak. The reasons it worked for the Russians (if this is a true statement) was that it was on land. However, IF it could be done, and the cavity chimneyed properly, it would seal the hole - the chances of keeping the deep ocean at over 2300 PSI pressure out a shot hole, are vanishingly small (admitting nothing is impossible). What a mess....."
"...The heights of surface waves generated by deep underwater explosions are greater because more energy is delivered to the water. Deep underwater explosions are thus particularly able to damage coastal areas, because surface waves increase in height as they move over shallow water, and can flood the land beyond the shoreline. Many of the theories and concepts about these waves are similar to those that are applicable to other types of surface waves, in particular, tsunamis, and waves generated by the fall of a meteor."
And then there was Chris Matthews idea - "Send the Navy SEALS down to take care of it." Yeah, right. Maybe have Bruce Willis and his crew also.
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pine boy
Robot saw sawing stuff right now
plantagenet
Member
big oil
big oil
well it would be a great Bruce Willis movie, but the reality of this mess sux. Ecologically, economically, and it has put a sense of impending doom on the whole Gulf Coast!
We must look into other sources of energy. This madness can't keep going on.
The price of gas usually goes up this time of year for vacation travel, but this year the price has gone down. Big Oil trying to appease us with cheaper gas! BUT look WTF big oil did to the area of the country that I love and live in! Paradise lost! @ least for a long time! The odor of the hydrocarbons will drown out the frangrance of the many orange blossoms smell usually in the air this time of year.
big oil
well it would be a great Bruce Willis movie, but the reality of this mess sux. Ecologically, economically, and it has put a sense of impending doom on the whole Gulf Coast!
We must look into other sources of energy. This madness can't keep going on.
The price of gas usually goes up this time of year for vacation travel, but this year the price has gone down. Big Oil trying to appease us with cheaper gas! BUT look WTF big oil did to the area of the country that I love and live in! Paradise lost! @ least for a long time! The odor of the hydrocarbons will drown out the frangrance of the many orange blossoms smell usually in the air this time of year.
They are doing some bad ass looking stuff atm!
Hope it'll work this time.
Hope it'll work this time.
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Guest 18340
Seriously man, I' sick to my stomach over this. I'm watching live as the Gulf of Mexico get's destroyed.
Fucked up thing is now I feeling guilty for using so much damn electricity...
Fucked up thing is now I feeling guilty for using so much damn electricity...
I'm still waiting for the ten ton weight option.... but I'll cross my fingers for anything that works.
Everyone (interested) watch this NOW!
They got this freaking awesome underwater cutting tool cutting off the riser!
They got this freaking awesome underwater cutting tool cutting off the riser!
ParadigmShift
Member
seems I can never connect to watch, it says "connecting..." but never does?
Hmm I don't know, it always works flawlessly for me!
Maybe you need to do a player update? (WMV)
CarpeLibertatem
Member
BP is finished; they will not survive this. Will the Gulf?
Another thing guys.........abiotic oil. That's right everyone, these are not "fossil fuels" as we have been led to believe for the purpose of creating artificial scarcity.
Oil is plentiful because the earth manufactures this shit within.....
Another thing guys.........abiotic oil. That's right everyone, these are not "fossil fuels" as we have been led to believe for the purpose of creating artificial scarcity.
Oil is plentiful because the earth manufactures this shit within.....
ParadigmShift
Member
got it going thanks
kaskar
Member
been watching this for a couple days the pipe theyre trying to cap is not putting out that much oil its all below that multiple streams theyre not showing that .they did during top kill it didnt work .the other camera was showing the multiple streams i guess thats it dont work now .theyre only showing the pipe theyre working on .all the oil is coming from below there .they think were stupid .that other camera dont work shows the real thing .still gushing .
ParadigmShift
Member
Not sure what the problem was, I just kept refreshing the page till it popped up.
