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Advance Nutrients is an amazing brand

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toohighmf

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I just brush it off my shoulders. again, I didn't mean to offend you. I hope you can see my point of view. :tiphat: They are a terrible company. they are shady and they are great marketeers. the products are decent. nothing groundbreaking at all anymore.

here's my ultimate regiment. helped some double their yields after failing miserable w the 2+ program. it was orig. designed for ebb n flo and rockwool/coco mat. their is a simplified version under the notes. it is not cheap, it is a shit ton of bottles and if properly mixed will provide you the biggest trichiest tastiest buds you may ever grow. I'm posting i because it's old and it shows that even I used some AN for years after leaving. the formulas changed, so I'm don, son!

Pure blend pro grow as directed or GH floranova grow at 800-900ppms
(4-6ml/gallon.
Calmg+150- 250ppms or
7-15ml/gallon
Revive 1ml/gallon
Sperthrive 1drop/gallon
Floralicious+ 10ml/gallon
Roots Excelurator throughout veg/bloom 1ml/gallon.
Oregonism XL as recommended w carboload throughout 1st week of bloom

Foliar:
VHO 400 ppm, every other day. Can exceed 200 ppm evey application to
800ppms. Don't add anything except wetting agent like wet betty or
coco-wet to PH 6.0

Superthrive 1 drop per gallon
Revive 4ml per gallon
Floralicious+ 10ml/ gallon
Bills perfect fertilzer as recommended.

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Bloom:
Floranova bloom or
GH 3 part micro 6ml/gallon & bloom 9-10ml per gallon or 6-800ppm.
Calmg+ 200- 250 ppms
Floralicious+ twice rec. Dose.
Vermicrop or MET Bloom
Big bud or bud Xl. 200-250ppm throughout day 10-50
Moab, koolbloom, monster bloom, or shooting powder at 200ppm last 10
days before flush. (I like shooting powder or monster bloom/koolbloom
best.
Superthrive 1 drop/ gallon
Revive 1ml/gallon
Carboload 2-3 ml/gallon 1st/last 2 weeks of veg and bloom.
Barricade for ph up
Hygrozym 5-8ml/gallon

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Flush:
Week 1: 10ml/gallon black strap molasses or carboload 2-3ml per gallon,
Floralicious+ 5ml/gallon


Week 2
RO water Ph'ed to 5.5 until plants leaves yellow/purple and begin to
fall off. Allow the plant to fully mature by letting the plant eat off
it's stored food in foliage. This flush will insure that.
I have flushed for over 20 days to achieve full maturation. Best
yeild, taste scent, but went 9-1/2 weeks.
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Environment:
Day- Air 72-82 degrees
40-50% relative humidity.
Resivior temp 69-74
Dark cycle temps 59-70
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Notes:
Ph should be dropped 1/10th a point/week from start to finish
Week 1 bloom should be about 6.1
Wk 2 6.0 wk 3 5.9 wk 4 5.8 week 5 5.7 wk 6 5.6 wk 7 5.5 til finished.
Ppm should never exceed 1600ppm.
Res should be topped off w calmg+ & floralicious+ until ppm drops to
under 600ppm. Dump and replace. No need to raise ppm more than 1000
for just about anything. Ph 5.2-6.2 hydro
If this seems complicated, go the simple route written below. I
guarantee better quality with that formula, though yield will be about
the same or a little better if environment is perfect.
Flush with 6.0 between res changes every 10 days.
OregonismXL is a replacement for both hydroguard and voodoo juice
for $30... Shits off the hook
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Basic bloom formula:
floranova 1 part, dynabloom, or pure blend pro bloom 800-1000 ppms
Calmg+ 250 ppms
Floralicious+ 10ml/gallon
Carbo or molasses flush
 
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NinoBrown420

As much as I do pay them (currently running, iguana grow, fulvic acid, pirahna, tarantula, sensi bloom a and b, big bud, bud candy, b52 and bud factor x) they could def invest in a better container, maybe one that actually seals. Lol yeah man I ordered an iguana grow once and when I got it half had already leaked out into the box it was shipped in. Smelled like a box full of shit. You AN guys know the smell, that shit was in my carpet for 2 weeks before the smell came out, but my carpet grew 2 inches!

Hahaha that sucks!That shit smells like ****!


Toohigh,love the pic bra,that show is the fucking best
 

toohighmf

Well-known member
Veteran
I chose Kenny powers because I kinda resemble his character. I just got my pitch back after being humbled pretty hard. It kinda took that show to realize how fucked up I was. LOL
 

BCNeil

Active member
Well I emailed AN directly asking about when the ph-ppm perfect will be released, as I am out of a couple things.
Was told, still at least a couple months, so I buy what I needed off their site. 4L of Conniseurs A+B, Humic Acid, and B52

The NEXT DAY their website is revamped with the New products.
I have already sent back my stuff for a refund.

Its one thing to sell off old stock, but when a client specifically asks about new products to lie to get rid of them, it made me upset. And I have been a good customer for about 7 years. :moon:
 

kaskar

Member
i used an for years still use big bud gotta a big tub of it .use dutch master gold just as good or better.2 parts simple .they make their money on the additaves.
 
Hi Big Mike!

Hi Big Mike!

"I quit, I wasn't fired."

Oh, well that makes it all better.


Dude, you've clearly got a lot of anger associated with working there, yet we're supposed to trust you to be honest and impartial?

Let's be fair. It takes more than one side to create a problem. I've had horrible jobs as well, but at least part of the problem was me. If you've ever brought up any of the "problems" you had at Advanced Nutrients in a job interview for a job you didn't get... well that's probably why you didn't get it.


Now don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say you don't know what you're talking about, or even that there isn't a chance you're right. I'm just saying the sheer ferocity you show towards Advanced Nutrients or anyone unfortunate enough to not share your point of view makes people question your motives. And then when they actually do question you, and you counter with equal aggression they question whether they're getting the whole story.

I find myself wondering if the people at Advanced Nutrients would agree on the quit/fired point. You obviously didn't get angry at AN after you "quit", so how much of your problem with the company was caused by you hating them while you worked there? You can't really blame them for treating you badly if you're complaining and angry all the time.

If you acted there like you do here... well we get back to the suspicion over the quit/fired thing.

Nice to see Big Mike back in the mix... hi Big Mike!
 

couchlockd

Active member
hey tohighmf what do you recomend changing your ultimate recipe for promix users like me i hand water. like frequency of feeding versus plain watering. and if you should set ph differently. also what scale for ppm are you using, 700 640 or 500 i use ms/cm EC readings cuzz they be universal. thanks for the input.

i already....believe it or not....have every single product you listed and then some.

heres what i got nute wise on hand.
1) the entire botanicare PBP lineup with karma and og pb cal mag and everything that they have on the feed chart to go along with it

2) all the an shit i got like for sets of sensi this and that cuss they go bad and rock up a lot not usually but one gets sent back once in a while. but i go conny too and the whole 2plus lineup but recently replaced voodoo and pirahna and tarantul with great white

3) they entire bc linep from techna flora sugar ddy, magical route 66 thrive alive green and red everything and also got pure vida and i use Pure vida on veg and mom plants every 2 weeks @ 2ml magical per gallon and 36ml pure vida gro and some 5ml karma(botanicar) and it rocks i just give plain ol unadjusted ro evertime the plant goes dry untill 2 weeks then they get it again. totally health better than the 2+ for veg and if i tried pure vida blloom i got sitting around like that for bloom it would probably do better to now i think about it. to high you got some things that take a while to set in but know i think of it i should try the pure vida bloom with magical and karma for bloom just as i do in veg, but im scared all my an stuff specially the conny will go bad

4)all the GH lineup with floralicious p;us and bloom and flora series and kool blooms

5) the entire hesi lineup minus pk 14/14

6)i got roots XL maxi crop, stimul8tor and a ton of other shit

al you can probably tell i have a tendancy to get sucked in with marketing, ill admit it but an has yielded me bett so far than any thing else but not the entire 2 plus line i used to use and and it sucked so i cherry picked their products and use this or that seperatly and not all mixed together in the same feed solution at ounce for example ill give em conny kushie kush and bud candy, nest time ittl be humic fulvic and b-52. and sometime a little sensi cal mg mix at .15 to .2 ec

but tell me a very effective way to use conny and an products in pro-mix in three gallon pots, its pro mix hp cut 25% with fox farms perlite. i usually water every five days at first at transplant and then once they start drying up to like water ever fourth day or so ill flip em to flower.

so i also run co2 with a Green ari CDMC_6 Co2 sequencer/monitor under a 600watt future brite ballast and cool tube in the summer and super sun ac in the winter. hortilux is the bulb i use in flower super hps en

so what would to high do with conny and the full an lineup at his disposal in this garder setting. and dont say "flush the an down the toilette first then use pure blend" please.
 

Rockster

Member
Advanced Nutrients are the suckers of satans marketing jizz!

Go on,get that black scaly pecker down your neck!

A bunch of overpriced and over hyped arse.
 

Hovz

Active member
I for one will never fall victim to the marketing. I went a hydro shop and the owner was wearing this shirt.
bullpissing.jpg


its a bull drinking AN and pissing in a bucket labeled GH. I knew the only reason he was wearing it is because it makes him the most money. Hydro shops are marked up so much its ridiculous.
 
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Ganja D

Advanced Nutrients are the suckers of satans marketing jizz!

Go on,get that black scaly pecker down your neck!

A bunch of overpriced and over hyped arse.

Wow, what a friendly thing to say. I'm surprised someone could seem so angry at a company that has probably affected their life so little. You are probably super cool!
 
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Bud Bug

Hydro shops are marked up so much its ridiculous.

Well depends on what it is. One thing you need to realize that in the hydro industry the manufacturer makes the most money, the wholesalers and retailers make about the same amount but no where what the manufacturer makes. If you think you're getting ripped off by the hydro stores then you'd better not buy any more designer clothes.

This is also why stores start their own product line. Much cheaper to bottle down pre made additives then to buy them already marked up from the wholesaler.

On average a store at least in BC will make 20-40% of food and additives. Stores make fuck all on bulbs, ballasts and mediums. Those are loss leaders most of the time,
 

HydroManiac

Active member
I guess that depends on how many Ed Hardy fans are in the audience...

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ApgjQ6rlBw

Sorry to any I offend. It's just how I feel about AN/EH. Apparently I'm not the only one...

Once again you haters are nothing more then haters without anything valid to add I have been growing for over 20 years and to say that anything post positive about an is like something written on a wall at a tavern is totally out of line and now puts you on the list of people I have zero respect for!!!!
 

toohighmf

Well-known member
Veteran
hey tohighmf what do you recomend changing your ultimate recipe for promix users like me i hand water. like frequency of feeding versus plain watering. and if you should set ph differently. also what scale for ppm are you using, 700 640 or 500 i use ms/cm EC readings cuzz they be universal. thanks for the input.

I RUN OFF .70 CONVERSION. FOR SOILESS MIXES, I RUN PH AROUND 6.3-6.7. KEEP EVERYTHING ELSE AS IS.

i already....believe it or not....have every single product you listed and then some.

I BELIEVE IT

heres what i got nute wise on hand.
1) the entire botanicare PBP lineup with karma and og pb cal mag and everything that they have on the feed chart to go along with it

2) all the an shit i got like for sets of sensi this and that cuss they go bad and rock up a lot not usually but one gets sent back once in a while. but i go conny too and the whole 2plus lineup but recently replaced voodoo and pirahna and tarantul with great white

3) they entire bc linep from techna flora sugar ddy, magical route 66 thrive alive green and red everything and also got pure vida and i use Pure vida on veg and mom plants every 2 weeks @ 2ml magical per gallon and 36ml pure vida gro and some 5ml karma(botanicar) and it rocks i just give plain ol unadjusted ro evertime the plant goes dry untill 2 weeks then they get it again. totally health better than the 2+ for veg and if i tried pure vida blloom i got sitting around like that for bloom it would probably do better to now i think about it. to high you got some things that take a while to set in but know i think of it i should try the pure vida bloom with magical and karma for bloom just as i do in veg, but im scared all my an stuff specially the conny will go bad

4)all the GH lineup with floralicious p;us and bloom and flora series and kool blooms

5) the entire hesi lineup minus pk 14/14

6)i got roots XL maxi crop, stimul8tor and a ton of other shit

al you can probably tell i have a tendancy to get sucked in with marketing, ill admit it but an has yielded me bett so far than any thing else but not the entire 2 plus line i used to use and and it sucked so i cherry picked their products and use this or that seperatly and not all mixed together in the same feed solution at ounce for example ill give em conny kushie kush and bud candy, nest time ittl be humic fulvic and b-52. and sometime a little sensi cal mg mix at .15 to .2 ec

but tell me a very effective way to use conny and an products in pro-mix in three gallon pots, its pro mix hp cut 25% with fox farms perlite. i usually water every five days at first at transplant and then once they start drying up to like water ever fourth day or so ill flip em to flower.

so i also run co2 with a Green ari CDMC_6 Co2 sequencer/monitor under a 600watt future brite ballast and cool tube in the summer and super sun ac in the winter. hortilux is the bulb i use in flower super hps en

so what would to high do with conny and the full an lineup at his disposal in this garder setting. and dont say "flush the an down the toilette first then use pure blend" please.

I can't say I EVER used the whole line. Even when I had $100K wholesale in the product, I never used near all of it. I did use a lot of their stuff when the 2+ program was much more simple than it has become, particularly prior to Conni.

I ran conny at 5-600ppm

carbo 1/4 tsp/gal

voodoo 30ml/gallon

I only used P&T once. enough said.

Vita Boost pro or B-52 1/2 bottle strength

Old big bud powder w 7% mag and L-Amino complex @ 200-250ppm

H1/F1. 1 LITER each per 70 gal res!!!! (bring on the trichs, and welcome to flavor country!!!

MET BLOOM As recommended to implement in the 2+ program

Revive 1ml/gal

Barricade as PH up.

Overdrive 200ppm per gallon last week of food.

screw their sensi cal. its dogshit, as is P&T. get some Calmg+ & hydroguard. or use OregonismXL or Myco paks, great white, molasses.

Emerald shamen was a cool alfalfa mix I liked a bit.

Sensizym has sucked from the get go. 1 tsp too much yeast and you have a bottle of sulphuric dogshit

CBB works wonders but it goes bad in about a month after using, as does jumpstart. Monkey Juice is the WORST coco fert on the market. Ig juice is pretty good stuff for a bottled organic fert.

hope that helps
 

toohighmf

Well-known member
Veteran
Once again you haters are nothing more then haters without anything valid to add I have been growing for over 20 years and to say that anything post positive about an is like something written on a wall at a tavern is totally out of line and now puts you on the list of people I have zero respect for!!!!

And that mentality is how AN ropes em. I have little respect for people who don't see through the bullshit. So Agree to disagree. put me on ignore. I don't hate you. I hate that people are so ignorant, they can't smell the horseshit right under their nose. If I cared at all about anyone's opinion of me, I probably wouldn't speak pure truth. If the truth hurts your feelings after 20 years+ of growing, from someone you don't know on the internet, you need to grow thicker skin, boss. :tiphat:
 

couchlockd

Active member
by CBB i guess you mean colasal bu blast that they dot have any more and yeah i had a bad bottle of jumpstart kill 250 clones and set me back a good four weeks and it was four weeks of famine= no mo' bud to smoke till next harvest!!

would you recomend using kushi kush instead of big bud? i got a hornby 0-10-40 jar of powder and a non hornby jar 0-15-40 both have the amino complex.

but the new "Buddy" lable big bud i guess doesn't have the 7%mag or l amino but the kushi kush does so would you recomend it as a substitute to the big bud i have (the one with the proper ingredients)
 

couchlockd

Active member
so use conny at 5-600 ppm then some carbs i got bud candy and only a little carbo left, then a bloom booster and overdrive at the end, right? i will inoculate with great white of course. no bud blood? and why? running aurora indica right now still in preveg waiting for sex to confirm.

lost all my mother to an overzealous girlfriend who chopped them up in little bits and ran em down the garbage disposal after i got arrested for " throwing that roach i had out the window of my car", that mind you was traveling at 35 mph and i wasn't smoking either i through a cig but out and even if i did throw a roach out at that speed you mean to tell me he found it. i ranted just now sorry. ultimately charged with tampering felony 3 and lud noise and possession. all were dropped at my costs and they kept my bond.

so thats why i have no more mother plants. useless info sorry it make me sad to loose my fav plants phenos
 

toohighmf

Well-known member
Veteran
I don't jack my PK for plants that don't have budsets yet, unless I'm using a 12+ week sativa. I can control plant height by flipping earlier, and using less N the first weeks of bloom. I use carbs or molasses to feed the voodoo/benies, but I don't use it for anything but that or a flush. I'm sure bud candy will work just fine. I would use up the old big bud w mg and L-amino's. its a great product. Kushie Kush... c'mon bro.. seriously? I wouldn't use that stuff if you paid me. I would be embarrassed to admit I used that shit! what's in a name? a booster specifically designed for the nutritional needs of kush? which kush? thats a pretty broad term to use when describing an indica grown at the 30th parallel.. don't feed into that hype!!!!
 

InsideOut

New member
I like AN because it works well and they will sell to headshops.

I dislike and don't use the other companies because they won't sell to headshops.

I own a headshop, and grow sometimes.

Moral of the story, nutes are nutes and I needed wholesale pricing. AN provides the wholesale pricing, so I use AN. Fuck all the other nute companies for being anti-cannabusiness.
 
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bipotato

Anyone buying nutes for their grow from a headshop is an idiot.

If you want wholesale pricing, buy wholesale. Quit trying to use your headshop excuse to get a discount on your 1 gallon bottle of nutes.

FFS!
 
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bipotato

I for one will never fall victim to the marketing. I went a hydro shop and the owner was wearing this shirt.
bullpissing.jpg


its a bull drinking AN and pissing in a bucket labeled GH. I knew the only reason he was wearing it is because it makes him the most money. Hydro shops are marked up so much its ridiculous.
I've seen that shirt, and I laugh on the inside knowing that these guys are out there, helping me increase the value of my crop and automatically gain an edge in this industry without me having to do a damned thing.

I <3 Advanced Nutrients.
 
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