What Male to use in a cross?

[VerdantGreen]

again the discussion seems to be dealing in absolutes, i mean, are the strains and hybrids available today really worthless? - i can see that they may be worth less to the gene pool than untouched landraces, but what about the people that smoke them for medicine or recreation? some of the varieties i have are an excellent smoke (and yes i am most definitely qualified to make that call )
if better ones are produced in the future then thats great, but in the meantime i dont feel too cheated toking on some NL or sk1 or sharksbreath or blueberry.

V.

 

[englishrick]

nahhh bro,,,,,,,

its getting harder and harder to find good clones,,,,,,,,,im holin 15yearold or 20yearold clones,,,,

them complex terpens are getting lost in the mix,,,,when peeps find a quality indervidual first thing they wana do is bump up the yeald,,,,,increesing yeald is the last thing on my mind

 

[VerdantGreen]

hmmm, i wouldnt know much about the clones because i tend to stay under the radar

but as for potency and medicinal effects i would say weed now is better than ever. you probably have a point about the terpenes. my best and strongest smelling are the cheese and Blueberry which are both old strains.



V.

 

[englishrick]

sorry V,,i didnt explain myself propperly,,,,,,,

Cheese is sk1 from sensi,,,but it seems dificult to find Cheese pheno from sensi nowadays,,,this is the result of sam pushhing for less smelly weed,,,is it not?,,,,

peeps found the cheese an thought, wow,,,this oldboy is a wickid inderdidual,,ya know what im sayin?,,,thats why cheese has stood the test of time!,,,oldschool clones were from olschool breeding practice,,, not this indoor "multi dimetional" - "livin in a box" - madness,,,,,,

ya cant beat the sun for a light source at the min

 

[VerdantGreen]

i dont think you will ever be able to beat the sun really
yes i think they bred the 'roadkill' terpenes out of skunk didnt they

yep as i've read more about breeding and genetics and my own ambitions have grown i must say im less interested in multi hybrids and more interested in ibl's, landraces and good f1's that can be taken to f2 etc.

V.

 

[elmanito]

elmanito-
Hopefully the Dutch guy didn't supply the seeds. Are those even african cultivars pictured? Or did you further my points.

I dont think he is a member of the GHS community.
These Gambian marijuana plants were originally from old Colombian genetics, but all the plants are practically the same as you can see.
The pic was taken in 2007, so you can still find fields like this.

Namaste

 

[englishrick]

i dont think you will ever be able to beat the sun really
yes i think they bred the 'roadkill' terpenes out of skunk didnt they

yep as i've read more about breeding and genetics and my own ambitions have grown i must say im less interested in multi hybrids and more interested in ibl's, landraces and good f1's that can be taken to f2 etc.

V.

parralell lines bro,,,,,,,,pure breeds,,,,,,,,,,,,,AA and aa only!!!,,,,,a specific enviroments needs homozygote genes to express desired traits!!,,,,,,,its like binary code bro

 

[DocLeaf]

i dont think you will ever be able to beat the sun really

glasshouse and poly-tunnel culture is the way forward,, even in whack climates

..this season all energy (and seeds) to dope reaped was FREE in our garden However some of the best dope we smoked this season was grown indoor under hps by brethrens :friends:

It's real easy to breed plants together using natural sunlight anytime from March - November ,, using force flowering methods in spring and summer, and the natural photoperiod into autumn

The waste/trim from seeded flowers also makes nice bubblehash

 

[elmanito]

Originally Posted by VerdantGreen
i dont think you will ever be able to beat the sun really

This artificial light will come very close

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE6yLuI1NPM

Namaste

 

[englishrick]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEAczZkRd0A

^^^this is the sunpulse lights ive got,,,,,i want the spinners tho,,,i had a chat with my mate at the hydroshop and he said soon he will have some in for display,,,,,I cant wait, its gona be wickid!!,,i bet

 

[GreenintheThumb]

I dont think he is a member of the GHS community.
These Gambian marijuana plants were originally from old Colombian genetics, but all the plants are practically the same as you can see.
The pic was taken in 2007, so you can still find fields like this.

Namaste

I think you furthered my point. In the 70s there wasn't columbian lines grown by the dutch in Africa. What happens when the pollen escapes? How can we maintain the landraces without segregation? Bringing Columbian is almost as bad as bringing skunk.

BTW- I was asking about Skunk not because I thought any of you guys were at coffee shops. I was curious if at least the lore of skunk has spread to these areas since you claim they all lack the internet and only grow what's around. Looks to me tho, that what they're growing now isn't what they were growing in the 70s. At least not in Africa.

And I asked about interesting traits because I was curious. Curious, if there were many novel and useful traits in these populations or were you just wishing they had grown skunk.

 

[Owl Mirror]

I think you furthered my point. In the 70s there wasn't columbian lines grown by the dutch in Africa. What happens when the pollen escapes? How can we maintain the landraces without segregation? Bringing Columbian is almost as bad as bringing skunk.

BTW- I was asking about Skunk not because I thought any of you guys were at coffee shops. I was curious if at least the lore of skunk has spread to these areas since you claim they all lack the internet and only grow what's around. Looks to me tho, that what they're growing now isn't what they were growing in the 70s. At least not in Africa.

And I asked about interesting traits because I was curious. Curious, if there were many novel and useful traits in these populations or were you just wishing they had grown skunk.

I've been following this conversation and wish to ask, was it a mistake for folks to have brought Marijuana plants to the Hawaiian Islands?


Hawaii Skunk
Hawaii Maui Waui

 

[Kaneh]

And I asked about interesting traits because I was curious. Curious, if there were many novel and useful traits in these populations or were you just wishing they had grown skunk.

Yep, I wish we had been more experienced back then.
The weed I've seen in Himachal Pradesh or nepal was not that good as marijuana. No sinsemilla! But the hash they make is very much different story. You can't make that kind of hash from indoor/modern hybrids. (...I have tried!) And lets not forget centuries old tradition of handrubbing charash. We got lot to learn from these people!

 

[Kaneh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEAczZkRd0A

^^^this is the sunpulse lights ive got,,,,,i want the spinners tho,,,i had a chat with my mate at the hydroshop and he said soon he will have some in for display,,,,,I cant wait, its gona be wickid!!,,i bet

DUDE! What ever you do, don't get those spinners! They are dangerous! Just imagine yourself stoned in your growroom-turned-to-disco and get hit by HPS in your face!

 

[Owl Mirror]

Yep, I wish we had been more experienced back then.
The weed I've seen in Himachal Pradesh or nepal was not that good as marijuana. No sinsemilla! But the hash they make is very much different story. You can't make that kind of hash from indoor/modern hybrids. (...I have tried!) And lets not forget centuries old tradition of handrubbing charash. We got lot to learn from these people!

I believe the lack of good hashish from sinsemilla, especially indoor grown sinsemilla is connected to the fact that there are no seeds to be protected by the trichs. The mechanism and reason for being is short-circuited when a plant matures without fulfilling it's true nature.

While it is understandable to not want your buds full of seeds, I believe the potency can be increased if the plant is offered a few grains of pollen in the last two weeks of her life.

This may add an additional week of flowering but, the size of the calyx will greatly increase.
These swollen calyx will not have a hard seed inside by harvest time yet, will beef up your buds.
The surface area created by this process will naturally fill with protective trichs.

Try it -- you might like it.

 

[GreenintheThumb]

I've been following this conversation and wish to ask, was it a mistake for folks to have brought Marijuana plants to the Hawaiian Islands?


Hawaii Skunk
Hawaii Maui Waui

No, I don't think so. Hawaii didn't have any landraces to pollute.

 

[englishrick]

mirror owl makes a good point,,,,,,,,is there sutch a thing as hawian canna,,,,,an if YES, then was it worth taking seeds in the first place?????????????

i remember the hawian sativa cut available to Amsterdam growers has a 19week flower period,,,,

 

[elmanito]

i remember the hawian sativa cut available to Amsterdam growers has a 19week flower period,,,,

Genetics from S.E. Asia!!!!

Namaste

 

[DocLeaf]

Swowie Wowie [Bloods in Hoodz]... grown by HS ,, photo by us

Lineage : [Hawaiian Maui Wowie x Skunk #1] x [Swazi x Skunk #1]

This plant was the result of the 'Bloodz in Hoods' first cross,, on their first grow (lol) ,,using one female and one male plant as parents ,, so NEVER say "never",,

...such seeds are what we call "keepers" .. unique in every aspect!

 

[whodair]

g13xhaze male is reported to add potency to the mix while allowing female traits to really shine through. that is the experience i've had as well and i would recommend g13 x haze male if you are trying to replicate a clone only mom into seed form.