Something that has been causing major internal conflict...

[dkmonk]

I say go for it! Make the extra income you need to live the lifestyle your comfortable with, just don't get greedy and take time out to think about what your doing when your doing it (you already seem to have this down)

Do what makes you happy.
Be safe!!!!!
Listen to your gut feeling!!!!

Lead your life, and not let life lead you.

 

[Silver Bullet]

On any note, I also understand there's what we can generally call a QoL (quality of life), almost like a QoS. There are different levels of QoL, ranging from extremely difficult/borderline death to extreme luxury/no stress what-so-ever.

Name one person. Famous or otherwise. Name one person who doesn't have to deal with stress.

I sure as hell can't. Other than maybe some piece of shit prince in the middle east. Even retired people have some amount of stress (especially if they're my parents)

 

[antimatter]

Don't quit your job unless you have another one to replace it, 4-6k flower rooms will still leave you with a lot of free time, though you may wanna back off on your work hours.

 

[Silver Bullet]

Don't quit your job unless you have another one to replace it, 4-6k flower rooms will still leave you with a lot of free time, though you may wanna back off on your work hours.

I'm not trying to be the dickhead who interjects everything like Verite did to me. But to say he will have a lot of time when he has a 4-6k grow is unreasonable IMO, because he has to get down the process first. When you scale up or scale down, the process changes.

So maybe when he gets done with one 4-6k grow, he will have time on his hands (which he will probably be using to monitor his security cameras). But before that...I'm not so sure of.

 

[antimatter]

I'm not trying to be the dickhead who interjects everything like Verite did to me. But to say he will have a lot of time when he has a 4-6k grow is unreasonable IMO, because he has to get down the process first. When you scale up or scale down, the process changes.

So maybe when he gets done with one 4-6k grow, he will have time on his hands (which he will probably be using to monitor his security cameras). But before that...I'm not so sure of.

If your working 7 am - 5 pm going to bed at 10:30-11 still leaves plenty of time to water or top off reservoirs, transplant, spraying and harvest on the weekends/after work. People work 10-12 hour days 5 days a week all the time.

 

[KMK0420]

Lots of great input in here, really truly do appreciate it.

I do grow currently like i had mentioned, and i'm already aware of the risks, procedures (IE, possibly being arrested, lying to EVERYONE, yes literally everyone even family)

Fucked up part is, my family knows me because of my father, hard to explain, but my dad has a "skill" to where he can lie right to your face, and you'd never know the difference. Trust me. He's a major con artist, and i somehow inherited a very quick mind and the ability to convince people otherwise, easily.

Most of you growers are saying a 2kw setup isn't anything to live on...and you're right. But it would support me for a few months until i could find a better job.

My decision so far: Keep my job as long as i can for a steady/provable income, then bump to the 2kw grow. If i harvest roughly the same amount i get on my 400 watter, i'd expect a min of 2-4 pounds. I can (Given it may take a few days) sell a pound for full retail, 9600x2 (given its broken down into ounces, etc)...that alone is enough to support me for months. All bills paid. I've done the math, and money is ready and waiting...which is why it even makes it harder to decide on.

But most of you are right, i need to find a new job. I would LOVE to grow weed. I love physical work, and growing weed is nothin' compared to old warehouse jobs i've held...lol....even with 20, 30 plants. I plan on getting established (pay off debts), save some cash, then maybe take time off work. I need time off, simple as that. Vacation time isn't cuttin it.

I need to think deeply about my employment and find something i truly wouldnt mind doing, but i keep coming back to the idea that growing commercially could possibly be my perfect job...

 

[FRIENDinDEED]

well ive read your (the OP's) post and realize how real it is. i too am in somewhat of the same situation, not as dire but similar.

my job is one i am beginning to hate myself. if its not one thing its another and it all has to do with people. if i could do a job or find a career where i did not have to deal with people, i wouldnt ever think about wanting to win the lottery.

in my situation i have gone a lil farther than you and my job has now become my cover. where i am there is always some one looking for cannabis or selling cannabis, so at this point ive realized the need and want for it. its not a game, nothing about this is a game its either something you do or don't do. its all in how you do what you do that keeps you safe plain and simple, and thats what has kept me here, no more no less than that rule.

i have my grow so dialed in its ridiculous. 1st grow i pulled 3/4lb, 2nd grow (same plant/strain) i pulled 1-3/4lb. im kicking myself dead square in the ass because if i didnt want to help someone else out, i could have pulled at least 2lbs+ by now and if i haven't mentioned already my grow is set/designed for turn-key, so i was good to go.

since im in the know of those that need to "reup" i already know whats out there and the scratch that can be made. although i have nothing yet, i actually have people waiting on me to finish things out so im good in that area, and believe it or not cannabis seems to be almost recession proof. its weird but true.

**for me its all in the company i keep.

**i dont deal with kids and by kids i mean people under 21, and even people under 25 give me an itch when dealing with them. im a strictly adults only, working squares just like me.

***if youve got on a throw back of any kind (ie, cap, jersey), pants hangin off your ass you are officially a suspect to me;

***the first "yo" or "son" that comes out of your mouth is when you have officially ended whatever conversation about cannabis you may have thought you were having with me.

***i only deal with people i know, no more no less. and you have to be a friend of a friend type thing or no go, and the reason i can say friends is because you are not considered a friend unless i have known you for a good amount of time, time meaning years (5 or better)

i sought out some advice and i used to do nickel and dime, now i dont move for anything less than an ounce and that's because i have a strict, very strict no schwag policy. anything from me is quality hands down! for friends i may do an 1/8th and thats if i feel like, but most times its gonna be no from now on.

i dont believe in living this "hermit" type of lifestyle that people keep talking about just because you grow, but then again there is no reason for any authority to cone to my home for any reason. there are no jail records to speak of as i have never been. since ive been here ive had 3 thanksgivings this Christmas will be the third one and two birthdays and all parties (music blastin, food and drink flowin parties!!) so no , im sorry, i dont subscribe to this idea that "if you grow you cant have a life" but then again its all in how you carry yourself, and ive been known to not do unnecessary things. at times i miss my friends but i married my best friend so im good

i live logically plain and simple. i dont fear things i dont need to. ive read so many stories of people " jumping up and running to the window" every time they hear a siren, and they dont understand that THAT very behavior is what makes you suspect in the first place!

heres something i was once told and it was so true then as it is now " life isnt difficult, people make life difficult". so far in my life i have found that its not only true of those around you but it can be true of yourself. sometimes we can make our own lives difficult and not even realize it.

if you want to sell then go ahead and sell, legalized or not its going to happen either way. ive been introduced to people that have been providing cannabis to others in places that you wouldn't imagine!! if nothing else why shouldn't you profit from your hard work? lights, supplies, power, manpower have you or anyone on here found any aspect of growing to be "free"? if you sow then you should reap and thats logical, but how you sow and reap is whats gonna keep you out of trouble.

and to address the greed issue, imo greed is doing more than you know you can handle or the trying there of. with anything one should "count the cost" thats an ideal thats in the bible. oh and btw i used to evangelize through bible studies aswell so i understand that your religious beliefs may hinder you , but once again i find my resolve in logic; it was here before and it will be here after so its no mans right to what is and what isnt, thats why i can never look or perceive cannabis as a "drug", it wasnt a drug before so how is it a drug now? just because "you" say so?!? nah nah nah, thats pulling wool over my eyes and im not the one, sorry that doesnt fly with me at all.

 

[antimatter]

Lots of great input in here, really truly do appreciate it.

I do grow currently like i had mentioned, and i'm already aware of the risks, procedures (IE, possibly being arrested, lying to EVERYONE, yes literally everyone even family)

Fucked up part is, my family knows me because of my father, hard to explain, but my dad has a "skill" to where he can lie right to your face, and you'd never know the difference. Trust me. He's a major con artist, and i somehow inherited a very quick mind and the ability to convince people otherwise, easily.

Most of you growers are saying a 2kw setup isn't anything to live on...and you're right. But it would support me for a few months until i could find a better job.

My decision so far: Keep my job as long as i can for a steady/provable income, then bump to the 2kw grow. If i harvest roughly the same amount i get on my 400 watter, i'd expect a min of 2-4 pounds. I can (Given it may take a few days) sell a pound for full retail, 9600x2 (given its broken down into ounces, etc)...that alone is enough to support me for months. All bills paid. I've done the math, and money is ready and waiting...which is why it even makes it harder to decide on.

But most of you are right, i need to find a new job. I would LOVE to grow weed. I love physical work, and growing weed is nothin' compared to old warehouse jobs i've held...lol....even with 20, 30 plants. I plan on getting established (pay off debts), save some cash, then maybe take time off work. I need time off, simple as that. Vacation time isn't cuttin it.

I need to think deeply about my employment and find something i truly wouldnt mind doing, but i keep coming back to the idea that growing commercially could possibly be my perfect job...

At those prices I assume your from new york or a state with similar laws so im gonna say you should stay clean, but its tempting as hell isn't it...I just don't know what to say where im from its $2200-$2400 a lb for the very best and I could have as many plants and lights as I wanted and get off on probation for the biggest of big... so I really can't relate with your consequences. Here its an important part of the economy where you live its Russian Roulette, and I wouldn't want to play that game.

 

[KMK0420]

At those prices I assume your from new york or a state with similar laws so im gonna say you should stay clean, but its tempting as hell isn't it...I just don't know what to say where im from its $2200-$2400 a lb for the very best and I could have as many plants and lights as I wanted and get off on probation for the biggest of big... so I really can't relate with your consequences. Here its an important part of the economy where you live its Russian Roulette, and I wouldn't want to play that game.

You only live once!

If we lived twice, the first time i wouldn't. But the second time i would!

Any grower takes the risk of getting busted. If i can prove it was for medical use and not commercial, saying that i smoke and eat up to 5 grams a day could explain 2 pounds laying around...and get the best possible defense in the world....may get me probation no jail time.

but i dont plan on being in that spot in the first case...security #1. secondly, they actually just had a hearing on the medical bill for my state today (pa)...actually going to check it out right now! *jumps threads

 

[WokkaWokka!]

You gave us the answer and you are still asking . . . .WAKE UP

This is meant to be rude and abrupt, but not personal. WTF are you doing to yourself? Growing plants is legitimate work and you have the market stop being one of those suicidally idealist daydreamers. Nothing at all wrong with selling cannabis no matter what the marxists say.

 

[RipVanWeed]

The plant where I worked for 31 yrs. closed last June. The industry that I specialize in is dying. I've been offered a job almost everywhere I've interviewed, for 1/2 my previous wage! I can't afford my current lifestyle on that...mortgage, insurance, utilities...



By coincidence I had started a hobby grow in Feb.



So far, my garden has saved us from ruin. I'm ramping up as we speak.



I've never felt so good!

The only stress I've felt in relation to growing, has been due to the sporadic nature of donations and the eff'n Electric Bill.



All of my patients have been friends for 10yrs. or more.

I interviewed Nov. 23rd, they offered me a job. 1/2 previous income won't work. The stress in this industry drives most people to be assholes. I could feel it...smell it...it permeates the very being of the people in charge. They want me to slavedrive/supervise 20 non-english speakers, all night long. NOT



The office was about 62 degrees and while explaining the production schedule and expectations, the plant manager was sweating out his armpits!

"Find a job you love and you'll never work another day in your life" has been ringing in my ears lately.

I'm using my FUNemployment time to grow my operation. It's going to be the leanest Christmas ever, but it just may be the best. I'm fortunate my wife is behind me, and my kids are grown and cool.

I'm going to apply all the work ethic, attention to detail, curiousity, and focus that made me the best at my previous post, to growing the best meds I can.



Wish me luck,

 

[Perpetual Nooch]

ive read so many stories of people " jumping up and running to the window" every time they hear a siren, and they dont understand that THAT very behavior is what makes you suspect in the first place!

If you hear the sirens you can be damn sure they're not coming for you.

 

[GDK]

Stay Safe

 

[guest1ab]

Definitely a lot to think about in this thread, thanks!

 

[Yes4Prop215]

9600 a P where the hell are you??!?!? thats a little high man be more reasonable. even in drought states they dont go for more than 6400 on wholesale.

 

[SoCaliSmoker]

In this life, you have to do what you have to do.

Remember when you found out there was no Santa?
Remember when you found out there was no Easter Bunny or Tooth Fairy?
Remember when you found out that cops are real people when they take their uniform off?
That girls suck dick for money, that people kill people for stupid reasons, that there really are government conspiracies? You live and you learn right?

Well welcome to real life my friend!

I've been down your road, I know that working a job (depending on your pay) will spin you in circles of living paycheck to paycheck and I know when you finally get that feeling of "I have to do more than what I'm doing".

Regardless of your belief, you need money or else you will die - plain and simple.

If it rains outside and you have bald tires, you could kill yourself if you didn't spend the extra $400.

If you don't have money to pay for a home or shelter, you are going to sleep in the street.

If you don't have money to eat, you are going to starve and so is your family.

If you have a heart attack, we can pray all we want, but your probably going to want to get your ass to a hospital where science can save your life. Health insurance costs money.

From the minute you were born and took a breath of air (they don't hand out babies, they cost money for labor and you are going to get a hospital bill) - to the day you die (caskets are not free either) you will always need money in this life.

So if your feeling "morally" wrong because society has labeled marijuana as a "Drug" for whatever political reasons, then in the coming years when they legalize it, you will think to yourself "man, I should have taken the chance".

You do what's right for you and fuck what everyone thinks. You have a good probability that you aren't going to see any of these people when your dead so who cares. Hope that helps, if you need any other advice (as brash as it is) you can always PM me.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

^nice..money is a necessary evil. the thing is to not live beyond your means, ust because you are making 100k a year doesnt mean you need to get a 6bdrm house and a brand new european car.

be happy with the simple cheaper things, instead of expensive habits like gambling and partying that alot of people who get money fall into.

that being said, i only make like 30k a year so i am definately trying to up my game and make like 60k i hate just getting by and paying the bills.

 

[HighTech]

im trying something new out, replying only readin the title.


And im guessing, its an XRAY of scissors up someones ass?

 

[Deaner]

im trying something new out, replying only readin the title.


And im guessing, its an XRAY of scissors up someones ass?

Actually, close!

To KMK - "stop fighting your conscience and live your life!"

I'm sending positive vibes your way my friend. As your situation relates to your career... Perhaps you are being over-looked on these promotions because you are intentionally screwing up on the job? If you were the hardest working guy in the place that would increase your chances of a promotion tremendously. Life isn't supposed to be easy, and neither is work. Work is work and it's a part of a large majority of people's lives, no matter where you live or where you came from socioeconomically speaking. Think about how easy you have it compared to most people around the world!

The idea of having a small commercial operation on top of your day job sounds to be your best bet. Get cracking on your dreams, and in the mean time find a day job that you can live with. Keep the grow "small scale" for supplemental income. I don't have experience in this field, but as others suggested, things can go wrong when growing, and having a day job will get you through any of those possibilities. Plus, you won't have to constantly lie to others and live in fear.

If you can dream it, you can be it brother!

 

[LiLWaynE]

wow some very good posts in this thread...

probably the GREATEST REPLIES ive ever seen in ANY thread...

each and every one of you replied as if you were writing an article in HIGH TIMES or some inspirational book.

Usually I would try and offer my "wayne wisdom" but quite frankly, what can i say that hasn't already been said? ?

if i hadnt already given out too much karma in the last 24 hours, eveyrone in this thread would be gettting hit up...

much love