Super Silver Haze which breeder?

[Dalaihempy]

pine what i posted is 100% fact ask those that infact have a clue about what went on.

pine if you were on line between from say 2002 and up untill arjan re lunched him self as the pinp of cannabis you would know there was a time they were not offering many seed lines and then all of a sudden after a given time seeds were payed for and then the fem seeds started now theres a reson why people make fem seeds often its becouse they dont have a male plant of that line or becouse they dont know how to breed or they just want to select a nice female from a given seed number and make seeds from her by her lol.

 

[Dalaihempy]

by the way pine ssh is not a 4 way x it has 3 lines in it Family of breed: 25% Skunk, 25% Northern lights, and 50% Haze

 

[l33t]

Hi hempy

Hope you are doing well mate

I think SSH is not a 3-way hybrid cause:

''The "top cross" and the "three way cross" are used as testers. A top cross is an IBL crossed with a variety, and it is used to test for general combining ability.(Ed.note:Only GCA can be found in a topcross.SCA is not sought because one half of the topcross is from a single genotype and the other half is from mixed gametes,therefore,one gene donor is unspecified.) A three way cross is an IBL crossed with an F1. The result of this cross will be one of the parents of the double-cross, and it is used to test for specific combining ability. ''

its a multy/polyhybrid if I understand things correctly..maybe I m wrong though..

l33t

 

[DocLeaf]

1) It is NOT Haze..!

2) It's not stable, although perhaps slightly inbred.

3) It's not an F1 Hybrid ,, from either farm.

4) Smokes and taste like a high quality Thai plant IMO


On a positive note it's a nice variety to look at,, that makes nice dope

Hope this helps,, Peace n love

 

[WAMEN]

The petty attempts at putting down GH in this thread have only reinforced my views of them. Now I\m gonnna go out and buy GH. The guy tellin me i would get all hermies was especially weak. Congratulations, you just sold GH's seeds for them.

I'd rather buy from the businessman than the shady dope dudes spreading misinformation.

Peace

OMG this guy's a genius

 

[Blue]

Mr nice vs greenhouse still rolling on.....

i made my choice on growing both beans side by side ... Mr nice won it as they had the more sativa leaning plants.

 

[Dalaihempy]

hi l33 im well thanks hope your well.

The thing is mate it haze hybrid 3 lines in its make up sk/nl/hz so that makes it a 3 way x only simple way to put it dont mater how its breed fact is it has 3 sepret lines the largest being haze.

1) It is NOT Haze..!

2) It's not stable, although perhaps slightly inbred.

3) Smokes and taste like a high quality Thai plant IMO


Hope this helps,, Peace n love

Doc mate 1/ it is a haze hybrid and its useing real haze unlike some/

2/ No real hybrid is stable even sk1 thats sed to be stable expressses diffrent phinos mate.

3/I have grown many haze hybrid lines and not one has been like thia not real thia mate the haze high is more complex and diffrent it has an ellement of thia sure as haze has a big thia part to it but dont taste nothing like thia or has a thia high to it have is diffrent its high is more complex.

 

[DocLeaf]

1) Its not original Haze,, it's Neville's version of Haze / an inferior line that Sam gave him.

2) Skunk #1 is an IBL. and yes IBL show variation in specimens,, they are plants!

3) SSH taste nothing like original Haze,, even the hybrids.
SSH taste like Thai x Skunk / NL,, which is Thai x Afghan (NL) anyway.

Please get a grip! I n I wasn't born yesterday!!

Anyhow this thread sounds like a broken record with a dodgy needle already.

Peace n Love Hempy,, no beef bro,, we are repping both on the SSH F2 freebies

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjetBmixkmQ

What is this idiot even talking about? he didn't touch the plant and his hands are already sticky.

 

[pinecone]

Someone needs to come up with hand signs, scarf colors, or caps for the MNS and GHS so people can walk down the street and show what seed company they rep.

Pine

 

[REZDOG]

1)
SSH taste nothing like original Haze,, even the hybrids.
SSH taste like Thai x Skunk / NL,, which is Thai x Afghan (NL) anyway

I beg to differ.
I've smoked shitpiles of "different" Hazes the world over,and I can assure you,the SSH Mom that I run tastes,smokes and smells exactly like Pure Haze.
I've compared many,many Hazes,this is no bullshit.
Smoked every Haze I could buy,in A'Damm,over almost a decade.
Burned DOWN many hazes @ Soma's,but better-I've smoked Steve's Haze Collection.
You know,the 5,10,15 year-old Hazes he collects,in The 'Dam.
You know,that Steve.
I'm running (gasp!) Old Greenhouse ("Black-Pack") SSH Stock,back from when Shanti was The Breeder at GHS. This SSH Mom was selected for pure haze traits,and was the best of three that I considered keepers. I've had her for quite a few years now. Personally,I'm kinda' bored with purer "hazes",but I can understand why the hybrids are so popular with Patient Growers-& especially a well-recombined SHH hybrid.
If selected correctly,haze hybrids are simply outstanding.


Ta!

 

[DocLeaf]

There's so much bullshit flung about this subject someone should make some compost from it! Did someone from one of the respective farms / seed companies start this thread? or was it a player-hater? lol

Basically we are neutral in all things relating to SSH,, since we dont think anyone is "better" than the other ,, since both seed co.s bullshit IMO.

Now, there is a lack of essence in this thread.. so here's some SSH photos

Yo can all guess / discuss / beef between yourself which flower came from which seedbank if yo like ,, might be fun

Peace n Love <<
dLeaf

Remember ,, "a tree without roots is just a piece of wood"

 

[DocLeaf]

Rez ,, we judge Haze on the line Wernard works with,, which was 'Haze' from Sam.

Neville's Haze is a different plant based on different genetics buddy :wink:

SSH is a lovely plant,, don't get me wrong,, full props,, but it tastes more like JH than Haze IMO,, any day of the week

It's a glorified Thai,, the best infact !!

Peace n Love

 

[ojd]

mr nice's haze not being haze
huh
ie grown and smoked every haze i could grow and find
i find mr nice's haze to have the best hazes you could ever find
any other good haze you like is most prob a cross of either ssh nevils haze or nl5haze
apart from the few that actualy used flying duch or tomhills or positronics but they are very few and hard to recombine in a perfect manner
honestly anyone interested in haze go for mr nice
i guarantee you will find something good
if not hell pm me and il sort you out

i myself love the diversity in the ssh
as there are at least 3-4 amazing pheno types to find and i love them all

greenhouse ssh may not be bad(i would never buy it or recomend it to anyone) as f2's of quality strains can throw out some good things so yes you may have had good results from the greenhouse strain but now try the original and then see which you prefer

if any of you guys go to amsterdam you will realise that the greenhouse menu has no quality haze whatsoever all horible stuff
bu surprisingly they had a few ok kushes and stuff so you can see they have really changed the whole way they used to work
out with the haze and in with the kush
dont get me wrong i love kush but when you used to go greenhouse you were guaranteed a good ssh and nevils haze and even a rare mango haze
but no more
all the same tasting harsh haze
greenhouse is nothing like it used to be
they used to be no1 in amsterdam churning out quality buds every day and producing amazing beans
now its all about the fems
spraying clones and shit
bring back the glory days
hell arjan employ a quality breeder who knows what people want
hell id love to be the guy that turns greenhouse around
i mean think of it
amazing buds= thousands of customers buying beans(thats how i became a greenhouse groupie back in the day)
amazing seeds = many customers wanting seeds
and with the marketing you guys have,no 1 could even get close to you
i for 1 wishes greenhouse would return to the glory days

 

[DocLeaf]

SSH F2 are FREE at seedbay

http://icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=107020

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

GH has went downhill, as you say OJD they had it all at one time and now I don't know if they are selling seeds or apartments? Whats that all about? If they would start selling some quality bud then they might bring back some of the oldskool supporters, but I won't be going down that road anytime soon. Feminized seeds, coloured seeds, apartments, bland buds, what exactly have they become?

 

[groady-ho]

[quote=DocLeaf;233270since both seed co.s bullshit..imo
i beg to differ, i've communicated with sb b4 the man is true to his word and righteous at that..generous to a fault almost..

 

[thekingofNY]

REZ, didnt u use the GH version of SSH for the SSSHD (that looks wrong) but u guys know the cross im talking about.

Granted I know Shanti used to work at GH back in the mid 90's....

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

Here's a quote from Franco I just found at the GH section lol this is unreal:

Quote:
Originally Posted by luvtogrow
When hitting me with neg u asked for a "pic please"- Here is a lower branch of GWS ghs fem seed with pollen on the branches and 2 big male flowers showing from under that one bud. The tw only had 2 male flowers but this gws had @20 male flowers. It's polluted my crop since i use a big rotating fan it spread easily. Still growing out the fem seeds(lemon skunk is a beauty and no hermie yet), but of course never will again. Also will include a pic of the 3 ghs fems that have been moved under their own light in the corner. I'd purchase regular seeds but not fem again!!!! I've known that for years but had to find out for myself. Peace.
First pic left to right, gws, ls, tw.
Second pic, makes me want to cry

Man, this is not possible, there must have been a heavy stress factor involved....
We guarantee 100% feminized seeds because we get 100% females when we test-grow ourselves. No hermies, no males. And the feedback from all over the world tells the same story....
I truly understand your frustration, as a grower and a med-user it is the worst situstion to be in..... but I would like to help you find the cause, because it is not the genetics...

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=2298769&postcount=22

100% female rates? wtf, not possible that a feminized seed can turn hermie, wtf? And he is blaming the grower for the problems, this is not on.

 

[Hammerhead]

I would not say all of there gear is crap they do get lucky. I have grown 2 of there strains SSH and SLH both are outstanding. The SLH is in flower now 5 girls all are uniform and look the same buds remind me of SSH the smell is different with copious amounts of resin. There breeding technique is what I question.