SR71 Strainguide and Clones

[terran2]

Tarsonemid mites & PM

Tarsonemid mites & PM

I know high pH solutions kill powdery mildew, and that mixture would do the same. I wouldn't **** around with Sodium though. Try using Potassium Bicarbonate(ph up), or even potassium silicate. I have used Hydrogaurd (Botanicare; Bacillus Subtillus aka beneficial bacteria) at full strength on a plant coated with PM, and it was gone the next night, never to return, with no ill side effects whatsoever. I have given that secret to others which have had the same positive results. That is the solution I would prescribe for PM.

Hydroguard/bs bacteria seems a good approach , just tossed that article out there to hopefully get some helpful responses ....though never really had PM b4 it is something that i might run into at some point .

*** Here's a new mite~blight that i've never encountered till just recently with my PK moms & they've spread for a couple of weeks while i was really overwhelmed with work . The reason i missed these critters is because full grown they're only 1/5th the size of normal mites (1/80th of an inch) & can barely be seen with a 10x loupe.

Finally identified them today as " TARSONEMID MITES " and though the tiniest damaging insect have ever encountered they really can take down a huge PK mom in just a couple of weeks . Never have encountered a mite this tiny that can do this kind of damage to a plant . Not the usual white pin~point spottiness that usually is the tell tale sign ....just curly , crinkled twisted leaves that rise to the top making the whole plant look 90yrs of age (human yrs) ....

 

[terran2]

problem/cause = TARSONEMID MITES

problem/cause = TARSONEMID MITES

yah , here's a pic of that curly "crinkled" thing going on . . had this problem with the PK mothers and thought it strain~specific but the same thing has creeped up on my Matanuska mom now , so something i must be doing .

Well today this problem was identified as Tarsonemid Mites & trust me these critters are extremely tiny & very hard to see even with 10x loupe .... but can do the above damage and spread quickly like their bigger cousins .

* These mite species was new one on me ....everything gets treated with a few drops of FloraMite per/qtr , using Safer's Soap as a surficant .

 

[drymouth]

Hey guys, idid check my meters and there all working fine you think i should spray them up? but there all gooeyed up with resin won't i get mold? i got pic's i'll post them as soon as i get them loaded.

 

[drymouth]

Here gos some pics i'll let them speak for them selfs

 

[Santa Cruz 420]

I know high pH solutions kill powdery mildew, and that mixture would do the same. I wouldn't **** around with Sodium though. Try using Potassium Bicarbonate(ph up), or even potassium silicate. I have used Hydrogaurd (Botanicare; Bacillus Subtillus aka beneficial bacteria) at full strength on a plant coated with PM, and it was gone the next night, never to return, with no ill side effects whatsoever. I have given that secret to others which have had the same positive results. That is the solution I would prescribe for PM.

Reveg those bitches Billowingbud, they will eventually revert and be completely norml.

20 KW I saw in an earlier post about 4-6 months ago that method but you said 3 parts water to 1 and it didnt work i will try full strengh

 

[pico]

Loving that net setup man Nice work!

pico

 

[Guest]

same problem

same problem

Hydroguard/bs bacteria seems a good approach , just tossed that article out there to hopefully get some helpful responses ....though never really had PM b4 it is something that i might run into at some point .

*** Here's a new mite~blight that i've never encountered till just recently with my PK moms & they've spread for a couple of weeks while i was really overwhelmed with work . The reason i missed these critters is because full grown they're only 1/5th the size of normal mites (1/80th of an inch) & can barely be seen with a 10x loupe.

Finally identified them today as " TARSONEMID MITES " and though the tiniest damaging insect have ever encountered they really can take down a huge PK mom in just a couple of weeks . Never have encountered a mite this tiny that can do this kind of damage to a plant . Not the usual white pin~point spottiness that usually is the tell tale sign ....just curly , crinkled twisted leaves that rise to the top making the whole plant look 90yrs of age (human yrs) ....

Hey Terran,
I have the same problems with my PK mom ..I bought a mom from SR71 about a 2 months ago, and this problem started happening about 2 wks ago. I didn't know what the hell it was...I use neem faithfully along with other preventative measures. Looks like the mother I got was already infected..Well, it looks like the AVID is gonna be doing a lil dance with those lil bastards here in a quick sec Lemme know If you have any other remedies to get rid of em...good luck bro

Trigg

 

[drymouth]

Hey Pico thanks for the good comments the net was actually made by reading your how to of the pvc net construction. Cheers!

 

[birdbrain]

P.K. smells like grape candy!

P.K. smells like grape candy!

It's day 24 of flowering the purple kush and we have plenty of crystals, also some of the leave undersides are turning purple.
The room smells like grape candy, I'll have to fire up the scrubber.

 

[BillowingBudMkr]

Hey Terran,
I have the same problems with my PK mom ..I bought a mom from SR71 about a 2 months ago, and this problem started happening about 2 wks ago. I didn't know what the hell it was...I use neem faithfully along with other preventative measures. Looks like the mother I got was already infected..Well, it looks like the AVID is gonna be doing a lil dance with those lil bastards here in a quick sec Lemme know If you have any other remedies to get rid of em...good luck bro

Trigg

I might be having the same problem, but I put my moms in the flower room,because it accidently flowered on me. I hope I'm not putting the rest of my plants in jeapordy. What I noticed about my plants looked like exactly like the where having a phosphorous deficieny. Starting from bottom moving up. I bought these 2 weeks ago too. I will spray them with something but I'm not touching avid.

 

[drymouth]

Hey Birdbrain,I'm lovin' thak pk man.... I think that'll be my next run.
("Hey BirdBrain!" now that just sounds funny)

 

[terran2]

Hey Terran,
I have the same problems with my PK mom ..I bought a mom from SR71 about a 2 months ago, and this problem started happening about 2 wks ago. I didn't know what the hell it was...I use neem faithfully along with other preventative measures. Looks like the mother I got was already infected..Well, it looks like the AVID is gonna be doing a lil dance with those lil bastards here in a quick sec Lemme know If you have any other remedies to get rid of em...good luck bro

Trigg

Hey Trig ...definitely check them for any mites but use a 10x loupe and really look closely to see if you have the same mite . These are extremely tiny (mindbending they can do so much damage at that size with fewer numbers than the redmites) ....but if you do have them , then they would be coming from SR as the source .

I had my PK moms in a closet next to an intake , so these Tarsonemid mites (Strawberry Mites) may have come up thru there . Those PK moms were the first to be infected . These mites are so much more tiny as i missed seeing them entirely when the plants 1rst showed signs like this ...so thought it was something i must be doing . Just finally saw them with the 10x loupe 5 days ago and they showed up in my latest clone tray right b4 transplanting into this weekend . Not the best time to find out you have a mite problem with mites that no-one's hardly ever heard of on pot plants (dam dam !)...but there ya go . Part of learning to be a pro gardener is coming up against the unknown and dealing with it , and these strawberry mites were a new one on me for sure .

As it turns out , FloraMite will not kill these mites ( very specific targeting ) and Safers with oil/pyrethins didn't phase them either . All stores wil be close thru weds so can't do an Avid test on infected leaves . But two things i know will work the first being C02 in high concentrations or this new incredibly effective product out from Bayer Labs called "Forbid" which does list Tarsonemid Mites on their kill spec sheet .

Stuff is very expensive @ $300 for 8oz (!!) but cost effective at the low doseage rate (especially if a few guys share the cost ) . This formula is so high tech that it kills mites on the underside of the leaves when applied on the top of the leaf having "translaminar" capability .

"Forbid"...the latest high tech shnizzle dizzle from Bayer Labs ...next to FloraMite this is "da chit" but the trouble is really need this stuff in posession as of ---->yesterday !!

Forbid Miticide/Ovicide (8oz)
$299.95


Control all stages of mites and whiteflies with new Forbid™

Forbid offers outstanding knockdown and residual control of mites and whiteflies. The active ingredient in Forbid, spiromesifen, represents a new class of chemistry from Bayer Environmental Science, called the tetramic acids. Thanks to its novel mode of action, foliar-applied Forbid offers growers an effective tool for management of mites resistant to conventional products. It features translaminar activity, controlling mites on both sides of leaves, and has activity from egg through adult life stages (This means you can spray the top of the leaves and Forbid will still kill mites on the underside!) Usage is only 1/8 to 1/4 teaspoons per gallon of spray solution.

Insects Controlled
Spider mites
twospotted spidermite
southern red mite
maple spider mite
honey locust spider mite
Euonymus mite
boxwood spider mite
tumid mite
Lewis mite
False spider mites
Rust mites
Tarsonemid mites
broad mites
cyclamen mite
Whiteflies
silverleaf
greenhouse
sweetpotato

 

[BillowingBudMkr]

I looked at my leaves with a microscope and it has 60-100 power and I really didn't see any discernable mites. If they are there they aren't in any large numbers. I will cut a few leaves off and check again. Hopefully it's not mites, or you can count me in on sharing a bottle of this stuff. How toxic is it to humans? How about enstar or tetrasan?

 

[Neptune]

Goodluck Terran, those mites look nasty hard to kill. I will be looking for the early signs more carefully now, I am glad someone is paving the yellowbrickroad for all of us. Hope you get them in check, and be sure to tell us what works best! Have a good holiday mon... my PK moms are getting ripe for cuts... can't wait to run them again!

 

[In Vino Veritas]

What about other strains from there, should we be worried? I've got a few moms in veg right now, and most of em are from sr71..

 

[Bluefish11]

SR-71 clones usually are pertty clean,but mites are a b*tch
I learned the hard way.I would spray early into flower so if
you have some show up your at the end of your harvest you
can use something really mild on them.
I tried several things but most just hurt my plants, then I
found out about Floramite thats the Sh*t!! Thanks 20kw Dreams

 

[Bluefish11]

Merry Christmas

 

[Santa Cruz 420]

I use FloraMite and forbid they both work well...but by alternating help against imunity..but forbid is cool though not having to spray under leaves

 

[terran2]

Forbid miticide/ovicide

Forbid miticide/ovicide

I looked at my leaves with a microscope and it has 60-100 power and I really didn't see any discernable mites. If they are there they aren't in any large numbers. I will cut a few leaves off and check again. Hopefully it's not mites, or you can count me in on sharing a bottle of this stuff. How toxic is it to humans? How about enstar or tetrasan?

hey Bbud , merry x-mas ....

There's been a bit of worry about the toxicity of FloraMite too , but think that any danger with that or Forbid can be defrayed by the earliest possible detection and application of these miticides when plants are just young . There's just no 1/2 treatment for any mite in my book and nor should anyone use these chemicals without a full~out knockdown in mind of the entire crop .... cause mites that survive (and generations ) are capable of adapting as quick as any species known to man to pesticides . (Most mites i've encountered laugh at Safer's soap , oil-based neem/canola/petroleum products or pyrethins now , lol....)

* Yep , going to order some "Forbid" asap , quick freight cause it targets these strawberry mites whereas FloraMite does not (per spec sheet) .... and at those Bayer Lab prices will be happy to part with a little. But this is the real~deal mite traetment being not just a miticide but hi-tech ovicide as well (one application does the job)

I found out about "FloraMite" several years before any grow store had it in stock by searching the products of one of the worlds leading Rose grower suppliers on the net & kept it secret for about 3yrs only giving it out to friends ...they loved me for that , lol.

(Forbid comes from the same people too , just the newest release)

cheers

;o)

 

[terran2]

Maaan..... i'm having a problem with 3 of my Hk's. there like, yellowing up but whuts weird is that there all on the same table being fed all the same nute strength with the same res all on dripers . All the rest of the plants look good?
Man... no more Lucas 8ml. gal for me.

dry~m ,

are those plants ones right under the lights ?

If so they can dry out much faster than plants to the side ( and yellow up) in smaller containers ...otherwise your crop looks good . HK's will do just fine with lights a little higher up but any plant will tend to dry up fast when just beneath the lights especially with focussed reflectors . Make sure to check for dryness with those plants and keep medium moist . A friend had this same problem because plants in center were drying out faster and stressing the roots "too dry" .... & don't ever want to lose roots in mid flower to to dryness !

(Hard to over~water plants in small containers anyways ...)

* I'm watering /feeding 3times/day in perlite/coco mix with great results ...but i veg a little more agressively with 25/75% FN veg & bloom nutes plus cal/mag early into 12/12 too ....and i go up to 2.0ec without worry but flush when needed . But the time to "push" the plants is when they're in veg & just into bloom ....then you can just "coast" them sweetly to the finish , being totally green and good to go from there .
( Then i switch over to FN bloom side only and cut back on Cal/mag and start adding lite doses of CoolBloom PK to start 'em going )

The latest perfect bushed~out HK in 3 gal @ 25days in ,
which number 9 per/lite ...roots are still creamy white on bottom: