question for sam the skunkman on the original haze

[willydread]

@regseeds yes, I put the things on the table, but obviously Nl5 was the mother

@xet Arijan does not know what he sells, many of the lineages are absolutely invented, I don't want to put myself here to make the list, we are already quite offtopic, but that laos does not exist and hawaiian snow was previously described as hawaiian sativa x Nev.hz x haze, said this i hear a lot of great things about hawaiian sativa and hawaiian snow so i will definitely have to find and try them ....
But yes, Who might know things is no longer with us, so mine are just guesses ..., light up a spliff....

 

[xet]

Here is another Hawaiian Snow grow with Arjan clarifying it is Hawaiian x Laos.



I have also heard other big names on the industry clarify this as well.

I interpret the jealousy, malice, and hatred toward Arjan with unfounded claims like he is ignorant or making things up as nothing but the fantasy of posers and violent thugs being typical haters and this does a real disservice to new people wanting to learn information when there are people with no honor tied to their name slandering good names.

 

[regseeds]

@xet

Take things Arjan says with a pinch of salt.

Strain Hunters Seed Bank travelled the world then didn't release a single landrace line. It was looking like a moment of redemption, then turned out to be a barrel of monkey nuts

 

[xet]

@xet

Take things Arjan says with a pinch of salt.

Strain Hunters Seed Bank travelled the world then didn't release a single landrace line.

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"Arjan did not do what I wanted him to do." is a really silly take.

 

[regseeds]

"Arjan did not do what I wanted him to do." is a really silly take.

good one. He didn't do what he said he was going to do. We all saw the expeditions

 

[willydread]

Here is another Hawaiian Snow grow with Arjan clarifying it is Hawaiian x Laos.



I have also heard other big names on the industry clarify this as well.

I interpret the jealousy, malice, and hatred toward Arjan with unfounded claims like he is ignorant or making things up as nothing but the fantasy of posers and violent thugs being typical haters and this does a real disservice to new people wanting to learn information when there are people with no honor tied to their name slandering good names.

Actually I'm just saying my thoughts, I have no jealousy or poisonous envy towards anyone, not even Arijan, for me he can make success, get rich, become the president of the world, really, I don't care about these things (in fact I have cultivated some of their stuff and also used for some crosses, photos and posts are around here).
If you want to believe their side of things, believe it, good for you.
For real.
And I put smiles at the bottom of my post because I said it without any malice, against anyone.

 

[regseeds]

Actually I'm just saying my thoughts, I have no jealousy or poisonous envy towards anyone, not even Arijan, for me he can make success, get rich, become the president of the world, really, I don't care about these things (in fact I have cultivated some of their stuff and also used for some crosses, photos and posts are around here).
If you want to believe their side of things, believe us, good for you.
For real.
And I put smiles at the bottom of my post because I said it without any malice, against anyone.

Couldn't of said it any better myself

 

[harvestreaper]

When Mac got the OH lines from Golli and me in 2019 to reproduce and share with the people, he did grow them next to each other, and described Gollis OH90 as fruity, and mines as incense HazeA, pepper and metal.

And as you asked about the pedigree.

Mac's labeled Seedsman should be:
Seedsman OH x Seedsman OH
Seedsman OH x OH90

The labeled GolliOH/OH90
OH90 x OH90
OH90 x Seedsman OH

While the shop OH, should be all of them mixed together.

nice info johnny thanks ,,,as mine came from the shop maybe mac might chime in as to how they been mixed

 

[harvestreaper]

i remember the hawian sat and indica in dam in early 90s nice tasty smoke prefred the sat version of course lol

 

[JohnnyChicago]

nice info johnny thanks ,,,as mine came from the shop maybe mac might chime in as to how they been mixed

Mac's "Original Haze repro" sold in the shop, should be the open pollitation he did with Gollis and my shared seeds. Ask him in his thread to confirm!

 

[RandyCalifornia]

become the president of the world,

Isn't he already the self declared King Of Cannabis? Too much swagger for my taste.

 

[willydread]

Hahaha yes Man! But I really don't care, he can be the king of the world, war and peace with Shanti, etc ...
Plants tell us a lot ...
Every man reap what he sows, seen?

 

[maryjaneismyfre]

It just shows he is willing to BS to get the get on the hypetrain. Arjan...

 

[xet]

All the people at the bottom of the totem pole jelly of Arjan and making up lies about Arjan, there is always room at the top Hang in there tigers

 

[willydread]

Premise that I don't care about Arijan, Shanti, Sam, Nevil and whoever else you want, at most I have a certain sympathy for Tom Hill and KCBrain, you don't understand correctly: I don't give a fuck what your idols say, gods , guru, leader ...
Do you fanboys think we're all stupid?
I am not a fifteen year old who drinks any whore these yours idols say, I have many things to learn, but something I have already learned ...
So if you want to believe that lineage, believe it ...
Hawaiian snow is hawaiian sativa x laos, of course ...
You can see it from the foliar tract, from the structure of the plant, from the flower, from the resin ....
Yes...

 

[romanoweed]

i would tend to beleive that aswell , that Hawaiian snow is what it says..

its cause Greenhouse Seeds sold a pure Thai, and imho, the single person that grew it, i found that persons report, and it really looked landracy.. i have no problem believing that their pure Thai is just that. a pure thai..
so , i recall, but not shure that Franco, or Arjan was going to thailand ruffly around year 2000 to hunt landraces.. It really matches up.. Cause their Laos looks like a 2000 Laos (i only seen crosses) .

For me that sounds all belevable.

I have to make one note, the more recent Pics of HAwaiian snow look more and more fat, I would assume it just gets selected for shorter and shorter Phenos over the years.. The floweringtime was stated from one grower to be 10 weeks.. sad sad, but still cool, and its aviable since years, imho they just seem to have a certain passion , no?
They also may have buissnes tactics, of corse, and i think the Strainhunter shows were just that, a show.. they probably truely hunted for themselve, but the show was just more of an advertisememnt.
I anyaway dont care, imho , what they showed didnt look like ultra special, and rows in with whatever TLT seeds, Relaseedcomp.. Not soooo interesting.

And thats what they probably knew themselve as breeder, that most is dilluted.. So , they just made a show for us, i enjoyed it, truely. It gave Landrace Community an Image, and that helps imho. Somebody had to document it imho, and thats a good thing.
Are they also buisness man, for me it doesent matter

 

[flower~power]

I grew “Hawaiian snow “ that came from a clone (in 2007) and I have a pic if anybody wants me to post it

 

[willydread]

I also enjoyed those videos, even if I saw things that I don't like at all ...
And again, some ghs things I like (including HS) but no, a Laotian was not used, unless we consider a Laos grown skunk a Laotian ...
A decade ago it was described as hawaiian sativa x haze x Nevil Haze (the exact order I don't remember), if you go around the web you still find that description ...
It is now hawaiian sativa x laos, and the plants are more "domesticated", like the kerala used by Shanti or the South African of DP, or the tropical sativas in kalimist ....
I still have to learn a lot .......

 

[willydread]

Are they also buisness man, for me it doesent matter

I don't care either, I care about plants...

 

[willydread]

I wonder why on earth people have waited for JohnnyChicago and MadMac when tfd and nirvana have been selling original haze for decades ... I don't understand that ....
Yet these seedbanks say it clearly: original haze ...