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    Holy grail Mr Nice.

    Hi.

    Has anyone tried holy grail from mr nice? 115 euros 18 seeds.

    Neville's Haze x Haze AC) x Haze C.

    #2
    Hola Super Haze
    These are the words of Sara, Shantibaba's daughter
    According to her words, I find it hard to believe the parental stock is what is described. This doesnt mean the strain isnt top notch and worth the money. I didnt try it nor grow the strain. It simply means that when you are looking at facts, the strain description is far from reliable and credible

    Originally posted by Ganja 13 View Post
    My belief is the Haze C male has deceased

    I wanted to hear what Hempy had to say on NH

    I am sure now that the line's I will be looking through in the hopefully near future will be:

    NH 21 X MM and
    MM X Thai 78

    I'm also waiting for Pre 98 Bubba x X-18 Paki by VG to hopefully be made available to the public as well and I will definitely snap up a few more of his goodies for sure

    Namaste

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      #3
      Originally posted by funkyhorse View Post
      Hola Super Haze
      These are the words of Sara, Shantibaba's daughter
      According to her words, I find it hard to believe the parental stock is what is described. This doesnt mean the strain isnt top notch and worth the money. I didnt try it nor grow the strain. It simply means that when you are looking at facts, the strain description is far from reliable and credible
      I dont think those are sara's words funkyhorse...not at all...you are mistken...or has some told you that was saras account ?

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        #4
        Originally posted by TheDarkStorm View Post
        I dont think those are sara's words funkyhorse...not at all...you are mistken...or has some told you that was saras account ?

        Originally posted by @hempy View Post
        Sara is shantis daughter i just ran a search online found nothing and only this message was posted at Mr Nice.

        I hope his okay what ever is going on it is with in the EU i believe.


        It was posted here at Mr Nice https://mrnice.nl/forum/threads/important-update.17477/

        This post is my answer to Sara/Ganja 13 in the NH21xMM thread, I was answering her knowing she is the daughter of the seedbank owner. I have no probs with anyone, I just like truth, she is nice, I liked she answered truth

        Originally posted by funkyhorse View Post
        Hi there
        I understand you post this question because you want some feedback, I would think you have much better chances to know the real answers than any of us and you should be in a much better position to tell us the real truth. I am a fan of truth
        I bought in 2019 your MSN NH through a retailer of your ex spanish distributor, La Mota RIP, after I read erased nevil threads at Mr Nice forum and saw the pictures Leet posted expecting to find similar plants to his grow.



        I sprouted my first ever seed in 2018 so I didnt know much about the histories and fables being told, who against who, for how much and why, is not something of my concern. I just was expecting to find same plants and same high described in the old posts
        NH was the second strain I grew from your seedbank. I tried La NiƱa expecting to find a sativa Mullum and I got an indica plant with an average high, so I was dissapointed

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          #5
          I cut and pasted Sara's words to inform the community.

          No I am not Sara

          But I did see Shantibaba on Monday

          Namaste

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            #6
            Thx for clearing up, have a nice evening and enjoy

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              #7
              Your welcome funkyhorse you too

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                #8
                Originally posted by Ganja 13 View Post
                I cut and pasted Sara's words to inform the community.

                No I am not Sara

                But I did see Shantibaba on Monday

                Namaste
                I take it the one about Haze C, was not her words right?

                Thankfully she doesn't have a lot of posts, but I didn't see anything about Haze C that she posted.

                So it's obviously the Haze C, at least what he's been calling Haze C for about 20 years now. Which to me just means it's going to take entirely way too long to flower. The smoke will be good, but I honestly prefer Indicas and hybrids without too much sativa. I like them big, fast and dank, but I can smoke couch lock indica and out work almost anyone.

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                  #9
                  Thanks for answering. I have not seen anyone cultivate it. Maybe I bought a package to test it.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SUPER_HAZE View Post
                    Thanks for answering. I have not seen anyone cultivate it. Maybe I bought a package to test it.
                    musashi is the only one i know growing HG, he has a thread on mr forums. I have a package in the fridge waiting for its moment.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by CaptainDankness View Post
                      I take it the one about Haze C, was not her words right?

                      Thankfully she doesn't have a lot of posts, but I didn't see anything about Haze C that she posted.

                      So it's obviously the Haze C, at least what he's been calling Haze C for about 20 years now. Which to me just means it's going to take entirely way too long to flower. The smoke will be good, but I honestly prefer Indicas and hybrids without too much sativa. I like them big, fast and dank, but I can smoke couch lock indica and out work almost anyone.
                      Not Sara's words just strong intuition

                      It's near on 40 years since Nevil germinated the seed and named him

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ganja 13 View Post
                        Not Sara's words just strong intuition

                        It's near on 40 years since Nevil germinated the seed and named him
                        Which I believe Nevil lost the originals, cause I'm pretty sure Shantibaba said Nevil only provided seeds.

                        But 40 years is possible, that original A5 Haze is still alive, a bunch of people are using her now. Of course that could be a lie too cause I don't think anyone can remember a plant perfectly 40 years later.

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                          #13
                          not available where i live,really peaks my interest tho

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by SUPER_HAZE View Post
                            Hi.

                            Has anyone tried holy grail from mr nice? 115 euros 18 seeds.

                            Neville's Haze x Haze AC) x Haze C.
                            Definitely one thing that bugs me about the name Holy Grail on this strain, is he didn't really work it forward, just back crossed a good Neville's Haze to his Haze AC in all of his Rock n Roll lines, picked a nice female and backcrossed to his Ancient Haze C male. I honestly don't see how it's going to be any better than the Haze strains already available, it's all the same genetics he's used since the beginning, not bred forward just back crossed.

                            And a little fucked to put the name of Nevil's project on it, at least Franco's family is being taken care of with the proceeds of that Franco's Lemon Cheese, makes me want to buy my first pack ever from Greenhouse. Lol

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                              #15
                              I popped 5 of the MNS Holy Grail last fall. I got 2 females, 1 male, one that sprouted as a helmet head and went limp from my attempts to rescue it, and one that didn't germ in the time I was willing to give it.

                              I flowered 2 clones each of the females. One of them went about 12 weeks with golf ballish buds and had a pleasant fruity smell to it. Unfortunately it also had a few seeds show up in the buds even though I never saw bananas. I found seeds in both clones and other plants right next to them in the tent were fine so I gave up on that mother. The harvest has been curing about a month and still needs some time but early tests have been a happy but not overwhelming high.

                              The other female went about 14 weeks and revealed no surprise seeds in the trim. The bud style is more spearish with some foxtailing and decent frost. Aroma is earthy, kinda sulfurish skunk, similar to some OG crosses I've grown. It is a very similar smell to the Karma BA75 that I grew along with it. It is also very early in the cure but it is a nice smoke with a little more punch than her sister. I don't think it's going to be my personal Grail but I'm holding on to a mother for the time being until I can let it cure some more and give it a better evaluation. I have another clone currently in flower. If I get a wild hair I'll snap a picture and post it up.

                              I collected some pollen off the male and knocked up a few girls I had going - Punto Rojo, A5 S1, BA75, Australian Dead Head, and the two Holy Grail females. That was my first deliberate "breeding" project and it was kind of fun. It worked just like it's supposed to and I have some interesting new crosses to try some day. The main purpose was to see if I could reduce the flowering time of that Punto Rojo. I flowered some clones of that bitch for 26+ weeks and swore that I would never take a plant that long again. But I just can't quit her. So I hit a few branches with a load of Holy Grail pollen and have more seeds than I know what to do with.

                              Based on the description, I was expecting stretchy long flowering sativas from this strain but all 3 plants showed more of a hybrid compact style. The flowering time was a little longer than most but 100 days is nothing to me. I probably won't pop more seeds of this strain anytime soon but I am anxious to try out some of the crosses I made.

                              Regarding the MNS parental stock, there have been some posts from Shanti over the years that led me to believe that he was admitting in a very roundabout and vague way that some parents had been lost and replaced from seed stock. I'm not going to go back and find the posts but reading between the lines I got the distinct impression that he was pushing the theory that the parental plants would reappear in identical form in the seed offspring and it just took a special eye to recognize these plants. I remember thinking at the time that he was really trying not to lie about what really happened but trying to justify it in case he ever got caught.

                              I'm a lifelong stoner with the shaky memory that accompanies such a title but some things I don't forget when they make a strong impression. I'm still a sucker for Haze genetics hence my continued purchases of MNS genetics but I maintain a healthy skepticism towards anyone making money off the cannabis biz. It's all part of the search man.

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