Why is medical marijuana so expensive?

[lidspinner]

JJ........its great that you take the time to help out giving medicine to help the unfortunate out.....I have a guy that sends me sample jars when I am low, and without that guy I would be back on narcotic pain meds.......This guy has walked me through getting my indoor grow room set up, he has offered help in so many ways.....He truly is, in my eyes, a guardian angel. I have cried my eyes out sitting and thinking about the compassion that he shows little ole me.....and it seems like you do the same thing....people like you should really be given more of a reward than just a thank you or money. Without people like you, we would never be able to "overgrow" the govt.....

sometimes, medical users like me cannot gather the energy or the pain free time to get a grow up and started without having enough meds to get us through those days....

I truly wish more people would step up and help people out like you and my friend have done. it is in my plans 100% to pass on my knowledge and some meds of my own once I get this thing down pat and have enough of a stash for myself....

all that leads me to this.....if more people would help patients out more often.....even if it means you have to give to a stranger, even if it means you might not be able to sell it to your buddys for $400/oz.....even if it means you have to put a little more effort into your grows......if we all did this then the med clubs would have no choice but to lower prices. If we all did our part in helping patients, then those patients would not have to go find this high dollar stuff from clubs......my goal is to help as many as possible who are not financially able, finding those people is the hard part.....but I am confident with enough of us pulling together, we can do it.

 

[danny karey]

Why is medical pot so expensive????? Who cares, move to Canada!!

Here ya can't get a card unless you truely need one, but even than, we pay 50$ a quarter on the "street" 60$ at the most...........200$ a Z, I could get a QP here for what you guys pay for a Z in "med states".

Yep, i say move to Canada, Ontario to be exact........the pot is good and it's cheap.

600$ for a Z??? You guys in Cali, I'll mail ya a Z for 400$, thats 200$ cheaper and I promise it'll be just as good as any pot from your neighbour hoods or medshops, what do ya say?????

Those prices are the stupidest thing Ive heard in awhile, 600$ a Z.......Jesus H Christ....I get like 4 hooker's for a week for that much cash!!

Danny

 

[Greyskull]

i am not on the care program (i need to find out about that!) and my power bill for my 4 bedroom home and 3k total watt grow is $1000 per month (a little more in the summer, a little less in the winter due to A/C).

When i was working in the bank industry I was making $28 per hour... working for somebody else.... obviously my time is worth something and if i don't pay myself what i am worth I am doing myself an injustice.

PEOPLE WHO OPERATE NON PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS ARE ALLOWED TO MAKE A REASONABLE SALARY COMPARABLE TO OTHER RETAIL BUSNESS OWNERS & THEIR PREVIOUS EMPLOYMENT HISTORY.

IMO a lot of these coops are too big for their own britches... if they kept their patient base down below say 300 patients per location, and ran it like a true PRIVATE CLUB they could keep their numbers/profits low and avoid the excess revenue that will obviously comes pouring in with all the med patients and their needs. the operators could simply say to all new patients looking to acquire thru them "Sorry - all full gotta go elsewhere for your med needs"... And then i am sure there will be a ton of people up in arms about not being able to have access to the greedy, private club hehe.

maybe if there was some way to regulate how patients must have a single outlet/source for their meds it could work.... but c'mon i know a damn high number of folks that frequent MANY shops daily - its like a treasure hunt for them. THE 'PATIENTS' ARE THE PROBLEM it only takes a few bad apples to ruin the whole bunch.

the problem is this.....markup of Keystone, 50% margin is about normal for a retail establishment.

if the clubs are able to get 60-75% margin, that is only because there are enough people willing to pay that legally to get their meds. Good for the club owners. It is up to them to decide how to give back to the community at large.

I deal with sick people everyday, and I have no moral problem with my 55% profit margin. I have to pay my employees, my landlord, electric etc......then when I have paid everyone else, I am able to pay myself.

most clubs operators/buyers i know have a ceiling on their inventory reimbursement around 4k per lb ($31.25) for the finest flowers (indoor), and cap their 1/8ths at 60 per donation - 50% markup. These same operators/buyers will occasionally agree to accept higher quality/boutique flowers at a higher reimbursement rate while still maintaining their 60 donation cap - a >50% mark up.

i don't see a problem with someone who is putting up $250+ per ounce, in bulk, up front, asking for donations towards reimbursement of $350-400 for a single ounce, not in bulk. if a business geared for helping people gain access to marijuana for medical need is not allowed to practice basic business principals it will not remain open very long and not be able to help people for too long. and then everyone will start complaining that they cannot get their meds anywhere and they have to resort to the true blackmarket. sure they can grow their own. if they have space. and time. oh, mobilty is nice to have as a gardener, too. but thats all stuff not everyone has. "grow your own" doesn't apply to everyone because not everyone can.

 

[MMAJAY]

I would say strongly the same principal that has our Pharmacutical companies makeing people go without there meds applies here to an extent and its 1 word. GREED.

 

[Greyskull]

I would say strongly the same principal that has our Pharmacutical companies makeing people go without there meds applies here to an extent and its 1 word. GREED.

people who want something for nothing are greedy, too.... don't forget

 

[mrred]

I would say strongly the same principal that has our Pharmacutical companies makeing people go without there meds applies here to an extent and its 1 word. GREED.

i dont think you can apply the same principal because they got so much they give it out, because its legal and they can just buy trains full of chemicals to make that shit, then I think they can charge what they want, but then again they cant really do shit about when someone(canada..then france..europe) rips it off either because it might actually help people and they make trains full of money.

the easiest way to solve this problem is to have the government just print out money for you.

 

[ralex999]

I keep reading over and over on this post that people, caregivers and dispensaries are "greedy". That making a profit for your labor is bad and we should give away everything we make and live in a commune with peace and love. My answer is "get real folks".

You live in America. Canada, England, Holland and of course Russia all have socialist programs. But Margaret Thatcher once said "The problem with spending other people's money is you run out of the stuff too soon.". This country was built upon good old Yankee Ingenuity and down right skill. The Industrialist came in (read greedy) and built the Railroads, opened up the West, built Sky Scrapers and introduced the greatest gathering of Scientific and Technological inovations the world has ever seen.

While most of his buddies were smoking dope on Harvard Square, Bill Gates dropped out and moved to a hole in the wall in New Mexico and built the greatest Empire the world has ever seen. Not many like him, most hate him, but he created more jobs, paid more salaries and provided more product than the entire United States Government did.

So you socialist go ahead and smoke your dope, hug a few tree's, sing a few chants for peace and love and wait for the hoards of Hun's that will envade your gates and over throw your way of life. One poster said it really well, "if you don't like what you are paying for your smoke, then move to Canada". It's cheaper. But you will wait a year to get a minor surgery if you get it at all, and you will have salaries and wages that are found in most third world countries.

I was in Paris and went into McDonalds for a coke, and the entire place was shut down because the workers wanted more money. They were on Strike. But the Greedy owners of the franchise couldn't pay it because rent on the Champs Ellese was $50,000 American per month and he was going broke. A man who invested that kind of money was shut down by some High School drop out's that couldn't even give you correct change if the cash register didn't do it for them. Wow.

The reason this shit is so expensive is because you will be sent to jail for it if you get caught growing it, selling it, and yes, even smoking it. Just not that many people are willing to take a chance of going to jail for a few lousy dollars. And if you think this shit is legal in California, you are as about as stupid as the government you elected to office. The only thing California law does is give you a legal defense. It's not a get out of jail free card as most of you think it is. It's still illegal, you can still go to Jail and even Mark Emory out of Candada found out you don't fuck with the FEDs and get away with it.

So if you want to know why Cannabis cost so much, you should read basic economics on supply and demand. While you are at it, you should brush up on some basic economic theory called "the law of diminishing marginal utility" and basically it means what would you pay for the last pound of coffee on the face of the earth if you were addicted to coffee? Not much if you happed to have ten tons in your garage, it was getting old and you couldn't give the shit away. That is the anwer you are looking for with the dispensaries. Overgrow the bastards, and the price will come down.

 

[JJScorpio]

The above post makes me think that legalization with a 50 dollar tax will save the sick and dying a lot of money on their meds. Hundreds of thousands of more people will be growing and the supply might outweigh the demand.

It also leads me to believe instead of "compassion clubs" some should be named "get what you can clubs".

This was the answer I was waiting to hear..... But you might want to remember, Bill Gates sells computer software, which is a luxery. Clubs sell meds to ease suffering. And some seem to have learned they can put any price on that....

 

[habeeb]

when there is $$$ to be involved, most cannot handle it , and it goes to there head

isn't it funny how people become the same as they ones the hate against


I could help out sick people, but I'm not in a med state yet, and hope to be some time soon..

 

[MedResearcher]

I'm poor, I'm ill. Do they provide that service down here to patients in San Diego? (didn't think so)

Funny you answer your own question incorrect as well. WAMM helps patients all over California not just in Santa Cruz. You should go ahead and apply since your so sick. Just know, the majority of there patients are terminally ill, or fighting sickness that is know to be terminally ill, they don't accept people trying to get high for free.

people who want something for nothing are greedy, too.... don't forget

QFT, I think this is the best bit of information in the entire thread. Rep +++


Mr^^

 

[Owl Mirror]

I would like to know if anyone feels the way I have stated Michigan's law is designed is,
patients wanting "something for nothing" ?

A Patient is suppose to pay for the service of having another grow their plants and, upon completion the patient takes possession of the entire plant regardless of weight.
Would that arrangement be akin to "something for nothing" ?

 

[Babbabud]

Check the price of workmans comp for a "budtender" at a dispensary. Your answer should go a long way to explaining why meds cost so much. Dont blame it on the dispensary .. blame it on all these guys that want such a big cut.

 

[jwm]

I've read articles, heard stories, and it sure sounds like to me that unfortunately alot, most of the club owners are in it strickly for the money...

 

[ocean99]

I've seen more than a few clubs saying they give free meds to people with glaucoma, hiv/aids and cancer, probably exceptions for other serious illnesses too... It may be a misnomer (welfare clubs) but the way things work in cali I'm pretty sure nobody in serious need is going without because they can't afford it.

 

[Dank-j]

Med prices around here from good caregivers are 150 bucks an ounce.. you fellas paying 400 need to move to a state where electricity is 5 cents a KW/h

 

[kmk420kali]

I've seen more than a few clubs saying they give free meds to people with glaucoma, hiv/aids and cancer, probably exceptions for other serious illnesses too... It may be a misnomer (welfare clubs) but the way things work in cali I'm pretty sure nobody in serious need is going without because they can't afford it.

This is what ppl keep ignoring--

 

[mrred]

I would like to know if anyone feels the way I have stated Michigan's law is designed is,
patients wanting "something for nothing" ?

A Patient is suppose to pay for the service of having another grow their plants and, upon completion the patient takes possession of the entire plant regardless of weight.
Would that arrangement be akin to "something for nothing" ?

They still gotta pay a reasonable amount for the growers time and cost of growing to, that something. Someone said before that it would similar to what you was making before you started growing.

 

[kmk420kali]

Med prices around here from good caregivers are 150 bucks an ounce.. you fellas paying 400 need to move to a state where electricity is 5 cents a KW/h

Please tell me where there are $150 oz's of top shelf Kush and shit...please, oh please tell me!!

 

[mosess187]

good luck with trying to find "kush" for that cheap! that shit is in high demand....lmmfao i was just turned on to tis companybcseeds.com......now this is a crying shame, check them out asap!

 

[Blue Dot]

PEOPLE WHO OPERATE NON PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS ARE ALLOWED TO MAKE A REASONABLE SALARY COMPARABLE TO OTHER RETAIL BUSNESS OWNERS & THEIR PREVIOUS EMPLOYMENT HISTORY. .

You got a link for that? I find this hard to believe.

I do believe

PEOPLE WHO OPERATE NON PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS ARE ALLOWED TO MAKE A REASONABLE SALARY

But I don't believe

COMPARABLE TO OTHER RETAIL BUSNESS OWNERS & THEIR PREVIOUS EMPLOYMENT HISTORY

So if Bill Gates decided to open up a non-profit he could make what he currently makes?

Why wouldn't he do that because don't non-profits get corporate tax breaks?