Why has no-one feminised the REAL Cheese???

[englishrick]

yeh the cheese clone is a marvle of perfect large scale ibl breeding....... it roots like nothing ive ever seen...true?

s1 are crap in a way !!....maybe slow growers and low yealders!....but what about the "setting" trick????....and i agree the s1 type should never be introduced to a breeder as propper stable hybrid...it could fuck up our geene pool...but so could a hybrid going to pakistan or thailand.........we allready fucked with it and are letting stupid people run about with hybrids?


s1`s could be good...??? but we should controle it propper for sure!!...or we are pissin in the pool of life

 

[Guest]

Rick, re-read Tom hill's posts in this thread, as he explains, selfing a plan is only one of the various valid methods to use when exploring the breeding potential of a particular plant. My whole motivation as to why I pointed out that selfing the Cheese through using Colloidal Silver to reverse sex was possible was merely to show folks it can be done and suggest that it is done so that the community as a whole could learn more about the breeding potential of this particular cut.

how could someone so irritable lead a fulfilling life...???....dont take things so seriously......smoke some weed or something ya miserable git...lol.

I'm not miserable at all, just thoroughly bored and pig-sick of rebuffing docleaf and reading his posts as I find them amusign at best, irritating at worst, when those posts are in a thread I started and contain utterly incorrect supposition (Diesel being made up of Mexican and Colombian genes for one example) it is harder to be amused than it is to be irritated and whenever docleaf comes along and joins in a discussion I started, it distracts me and that irritates me. Simple way to avoid that issue, he just avoids posting ill-informed and often fanciful supposition that disagrees with something I just posted, he has done it many, many times over the last 2 years, sometimes I just ignore him, sometimes I have to point out he's talking out of his arse. Surely this forum is big enough that he doesn't have to keep up followign me around dogging me, I can't help but feel like he is dogging me as this is far from the first time he's got my goat in this way and finally I decided to take a stand against it.

 

[englishrick]

what im asking realy is!!.........are there more worth while projects out there other than using some elite s1 pollen to pollinate another elite cut then then growing the females seeds out.finding a decent one...then

using more s1 pollen from another elite to blend types???

then at the end you have the cheese (sk ibl) to cross it with at the end or do some f2s

 

[BeAn]

I'm not miserable at all, just thoroughly bored and pig-sick of rebuffing docleaf and reading his posts as I find them amusign at best, irritating at worst, when those posts are in a thread I started and contain utterly incorrect supposition (Diesel being made up of Mexican and Colombian genes for one example) it is harder to be amused than it is to be irritated and whenever docleaf comes along and joins in a discussion I started, it distracts me and that irritates me. Simple way to avoid that issue, he just avoids posting ill-informed and often fanciful supposition that disagrees with something I just posted, he has done it many, many times over the last 2 years, sometimes I just ignore him, sometimes I have to point out he's talking out of his arse. Surely this forum is big enough that he doesn't have to keep up followign me around dogging me, I can't help but feel like he is dogging me as this is far from the first time he's got my goat in this way and finally I decided to take a stand against it.

Well, that bieng said...ive come to the conclusion that you are a lot more lonely, sad & pathetic than i first thaught, your getting pissed off...on an internet forum, because somebody is posting their oppinion, in a 'discussion' that you started...correct me if im wrong, but isnt that what a disscussion is??...im gonna put my neck on the line now, just like you have...:

You irritate me coming into other peoples threads, with a load of bollocks about you El'yucca-what-the-fuck mexican and your resin-less purple-Afghan...it distracts me from looking at all these other weed pictures on this site...and it amuses me that you used the word 'Dogging' in one post more than once..(this bieng a weed site and not Adultfriendfinder.com)..

 

[englishrick]

everyone is putin kneck`s out if you ask me...pepole gettin angry

adultfriendfinder was funny tho!!

i get them emails all the time....nealy joined once too.....but then i saw the same girl livin all over the country,,.ha ha ha!!

im just trying to miss the cross fire

 

[BeAn]

Dont make me angry, i might report you to Dutchgrown, or even Gypsy....

*Bracing oneself for bieng labeled a troll...*

 

[Guest]

P.s. This might sound like blasphemy to all you avid Cheese hunters, but the cut does get boring after a while...smoke it everyday and yeah, it'll take years to build up a standard of tolarance...but the high is fuzzy, it makes you want to do nothing...things get put aside for 'Cheese time', can be a bad thing if ya got a job, as you'll probably loose it for bieng stoned from the night before, or just because you took a hit before work and basicaly couldnt get out of bed, and then proceeded to stay home and blaze cheese all day....it happens, speaking from experiance...so, that bieng said...do ya still want a slice of the Cheese??

i couldnt agree more ,,i dont toke cheese anymore because of the boredom factor ,,

p.s the s1 will have to go on hold we gotta bx ,ix ,ibl ,nafc and iabs em first

 

[englishrick]

fuk it off bean.lol...if he wants to be nice he might be later bro..im just lookin for supreem taste...cheese needs body/more fruit blast with the berry musk ..

what does this mean.......nafc and iabs em ???

 

[Pops]

Why don't we get all the so-called "elite" Cali clones, cross them to an Afghan, and then breed all of them together. That way we have eliminated every project that GHS or any other breeder could imagine and will have peed in the gene pool till it is full.

S1s and backcrosses might be fun, but I think I will stick to playing with land race strains. I am sure that there is something good out there that someone else hasn't figured out yet. If not, it still beats watching TV or jacking off to internet porn.

 

[BeAn]

EnglishRick, don't you start....ill hit the report post button, and don't think i wont 'cos i bloody will... wink:, just having a laugh with old Pasha...i ain't angry, quite the opposite..)

Hazy, its a great smoke...but not the best, saying that i do feel the urge to cross it with every male i have while in possession of the cut.

Don't forget the Colchinine solution....

 

[Chiefsmokingbud]

Guess I'm going to have to unsubcribe to this now. What started being a good thread has turned into a troll fest. c'ya

 

[englishrick]

yo i was just jokeing...any stressin feels angry to me!!....me is mega chilled!!..im more interested in what its like to s1 to set traits in a line?...how did you turn on me bro

fuk it off = forget about it ...no stress!!

 

[Guest]

Cheese does get boring after a while, it's buzz is pretty boring, it's a thick-headed type of buzz and I prefer a clearer, more sativa high. Always has a lot of comemrcial cache though, all my mates love it for the taste and smell as it's got lots of both.

Pineapple, which is Skunk x Afghan is better than Cheese, has similar qualities in many ways but a nicer high and more fruit to the taste. Sonic Seeds made that one, I had the cut but sadly it didn't root, keen to renew acquiantances with that one tho, it might just be a keeper for me whereas the Cheese wasn't (for more than a few runs at least). Cheese is damn good stuff, but it comes well down my list of strans I've run recently, Trainwreck and ECSD were much more to my tastes, it's all a case of what folks prefer, btu to me, the more complex the high, the more interesting it is to smoke over a period of time and I fidn that I have to grow sativas to find those highs. Never found anything that was realtively fast flowering that had a complex enough high for me, Trainwreck comes close and is 70-75 days, but had too much of a burnt out factor if you smoked a fair bit, the high would flatted out and become dull, takes a lot longer to become dull than the Cheese, but it does in the end. I'm keen to try some SSH before long, see if that suits my tastes. Elevator Man has a Flo pheno that is very, very nice and I like a lot, that's only about 60 days I think.

So you see, now I've selfed the Cheese once, I don't have much interest in doing it again. Time to leave this thread methinks, the discussion ceased to be fully productive a couple of pages back, perhaps I led it that way, anyways, like hazy said, Cheese gets boring after a while and it has now.

Why don't we get all the so-called "elite" Cali clones, cross them to an Afghan, and then breed all of them together. That way we have eliminated every project that GHS or any other breeder could imagine and will have peed in the gene pool till it is full.

S1s and backcrosses might be fun, but I think I will stick to playing with land race strains. I am sure that there is something good out there that someone else hasn't figured out yet. If not, it still beats watching TV or jacking off to internet porn.

Pops, you said it perfectly, and I wholeheartedly agree with both points. I've got some interesting examples of work folks have done precisely to negate more well-known breeder's hacks - Chemdawg 91 S1s and Tres Dawg come to mind. I'll get round to growing both out sometime, but at the moment I'm happy working with my own varieties I grew from seed and enjoy both growing and smoking very much. I could care less what other people think of my plants, it's the enjoyment I get from growing and smoking them that counts.

I totally agree with your point about landraces too, those interest me far more than any elite. After all, without landraces, there would be elites, and elte quality plants can be found if folks grow out seeds, how many seeds to find how many elites all comes down to luck and prudence - clone everything that shows promise and keep just the best, with experience you tend to know which plants have that extra something special after the first run, but sometimes it takes a while to learn to appreciate some plants. I had a Herijuana pheno a couple of years ago that first run was very potent but bland and not tasty at all. Second run I grew her differently and she had a lovely, earthy flavour to go with the stupefing potency, ended up keeping her for 18 months and would still have her if circumstances hadn't intervened. Still haven't smoked any buds with more knockout punch than that Heri, just put ya to sleep.

I never get into any arguments when discussing landraces and less well known varieties, it seems the controversy and anger comes out of folks when certain varieties are discussed, seems every year there is a hot potato that folks fight over, remember the OG Kush war? All the vitriol over the Chemdawg D cut back in April? Avoiding crap like that is almost enough reason by itself to stick to landraces and unknown varieties.

Anyways, I've got much more interesting projects than selfing the Cheese going on currently:

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=1738715#post1738715

 

[englishrick]

saying you have done it and its over might make you feel that way but im still interested in what sort of posative aplication selfing might bring to my projects and i respect all the opinions here and want to learn from everyones experence with crossing

i want to know what would be a good project to work??

i think you guys can show me a project worth my time and effort!! forgive me if im wrong!!

 

[KindBudKid]

Rick it's trial and error. No one can tell you what to do. No one knows what you like but you. Once you have an idea in your head or some sort of direction you would like to start taking a strain/cross. Then you have to start testing the progeny to see if you heading towards your goal. But I don't think someone can tell you what to do. Wouldn't you rather be a leader not a follower, a self thinker?

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

Max's 'Strawberry Cheesel' (UK Cheese x Strawberry Diesel) we smoked the other week was more like 'Cheesel' (Cheese x Diesel) in taste , but the buds had the profile of 'Strawberry Cough'

I think this sounds very much like the UK Cheese x Strawberry Diesel I had here, I cannot comment on the profile, but the taste was a straight Cheese vs Diesel shootout... one happy herbista even asked after 1 toke "mmm....Is this diesel or cheese" ?

 

[englishrick]

wickid to see you here KBK!!...ive got love for you....ive found stepingstones from people and there mistakes!!...its helped me so far!!

i just want a project everyone loves ...that way i know its worth it!! i think a good project will build support on its own!....and i think we dream our projects here!!...the best dreams are shared by all!! dont you think!!

s1 and its outcomes could be a dream with a real good ending for me!!

 

[Guest]

what does this mean.......nafc and iabs em ???

not a fuckin clue and its all bullshit

 

[Raco]

you guys...
make me laugh this afternoom

 

[englishrick]

not a fuckin clue and its all bullshit

that is a snid remark....i was being decent