Yeah I hear that and one of the better responses to my recent posts but some people like to run off on partial information from behind their monitor and think they know everything. I thought my buddy with his camera could do better than my phone lol. Shit I've been seeing herb since 1975. Only thing I can relate here in this thread is what I'm seeing through my connections and the prices peeps are asking. Doesn't mean there aren't better deals out there in Cali. I've seen Blue Dream range from 14 to 22 and the peeps selling at 22 had a hard time keeping up but it was top notch.
I'd like to see some of this amazing outdoor Cali herb for like $1200 a lb and I mean see it in person in the bag, smell it, squeeze it, check the structure, smell it again, check the trim, see much shake is there, look at it under my scope, smoke it, check the harshness/flavor/legs and high type. Honestly I don't even sample by smoking most of what I see but some are a no brainer and don't need to go there.
In this thread I've seen some high quotes peeps are getting and more power to em but would like to meet the idiots paying those prices. If those are outdoor prices then definitely insane.
Got nothing more to contribute here. Have fun y'all!
Thanks for telling those other assholes the truth. That VK looks great I wish I could smell it. Where's there pictures?? Keep your stuff coming I love seeing it. Jon 54Yeah I hear that and one of the better responses to my recent posts but some people like to run off on partial information from behind their monitor and think they know everything. I thought my buddy with his camera could do better than my phone lol. Shit I've been seeing herb since 1975. Only thing I can relate here in this thread is what I'm seeing through my connections and the prices peeps are asking. Doesn't mean there aren't better deals out there in Cali. I've seen Blue Dream range from 14 to 22 and the peeps selling at 22 had a hard time keeping up but it was top notch.
I'd like to see some of this amazing outdoor Cali herb for like $1200 a lb and I mean see it in person in the bag, smell it, squeeze it, check the structure, smell it again, check the trim, see much shake is there, look at it under my scope, smoke it, check the harshness/flavor/legs and high type. Honestly I don't even sample by smoking most of what I see but some are a no brainer and don't need to go there.
In this thread I've seen some high quotes peeps are getting and more power to em but would like to meet the idiots paying those prices. If those are outdoor prices then definitely insane.
Got nothing more to contribute here. Have fun y'all!
Those comments don't bother me in the least. Considering I only accept about 10% of the stuff I see I know what crap and borderline stuff is. Still though no more pics from me since what I show is crap and overpriced. Pics do look a little rough though...oh well.
What is the standard rate for a trimmer? Are there some that get paid by the hour and others that get paid by the OZ trimmed?
I agree that trim machines SUCK ASS and the loss in quality is probably well more than the cost of a human trimmer.
Nondual - don't let the haters trouble you. If anyone on this board knows good weed it's you! I've been reading your post's since I joined ICmag.
Most peeps wouldn't know good bud if it landed on them.
You just rock on dude!
#4 club owners who want you to consign the medicine to them,
there is a club in Sacramento....El Camino....they will donate for quality medicine....they want to charge you an 11.2% tax rate on your sale...and have 60 days to pay you....so here it the math.....the most they will pay is $2800 a unit....less $313 tax...and 60 days to pay....and that is if they are still open.....
WOW.......WOW......WOW.......and growers are doing it....its just really suprising to me.
#5 clubs...that will cash you out on your donation....very few will donate what the medicine is worth...instead....they will try and lowball the chit out of you.
purely from a business standpoint......I hope all clubs get closed...and the movement is more grower direct...and small collectives, like I have set up....the grower is able to pay all the bills, the patient gets clean very quality medicine and most often is less than they are paying at the clubs.
my 02....cents
well said man....im real surprised people are even able to survive on that consignment bullshit, let alone filling out tax forms. makes me think they are trust fund babies or something who dont need the money and just do it for beer money...because when i got PGE bills and other shit i want cash up for my wares ASAP within two weeks of being dried preferably..
i also hate clubs for the most part, the lowballing is ridiculous. even if its the best of best they will still lowbal and see how much they can squeeze out of you...
IMO the lowest a LB of top notch well grown weed shold sell for is 25 a unit.....at that price a local guy could still break it down and sell it, clubs can make 2x wholesale, and shippers can take it back east and make a good rate...
and thats 2500 cash up right away.....giving it to the club to make 2200 after taxes 2 months after harvest! GET THE FUCK OUTTTTTAAA HEEERE!
its amazing that even at 25 margins are being squeezed...shit you cuold buy some really nice herb for 25 locally here in oakland but what the fuck are you gonna do with it! i only know one person locally who will maybe give me 27 for it...other than that you gota break it down @200 to move fast and thats for peons and youngsters to do, not my kind of work....thats why most people put that shit in a box..
drug dealing/middleman shit is becomming a long lost tradition the only way to make any money is the be the source yourself and route to highest paying custie....go direct from garden to the last line of broker before the breakdown guys..
well said man....im real surprised people are even able to survive on that consignment bullshit, let alone filling out tax forms. makes me think they are trust fund babies or something who dont need the money and just do it for beer money...because when i got PGE bills and other shit i want cash up for my wares ASAP within two weeks of being dried preferably..
i also hate clubs for the most part, the lowballing is ridiculous. even if its the best of best they will still lowbal and see how much they can squeeze out of you...
IMO the lowest a LB of top notch well grown weed shold sell for is 25 a unit.....at that price a local guy could still break it down and sell it, clubs can make 2x wholesale, and shippers can take it back east and make a good rate...
and thats 2500 cash up right away.....giving it to the club to make 2200 after taxes 2 months after harvest! GET THE FUCK OUTTTTTAAA HEEERE!
its amazing that even at 25 margins are being squeezed...shit you cuold buy some really nice herb for 25 locally here in oakland but what the fuck are you gonna do with it! i only know one person locally who will maybe give me 27 for it...other than that you gota break it down @200 to move fast and thats for peons and youngsters to do, not my kind of work....thats why most people put that shit in a box..
drug dealing/middleman shit is becomming a long lost tradition the only way to make any money is the be the source yourself and route to highest paying custie....go direct from garden to the last line of broker before the breakdown guys..
Prices are what you make it.... thats the bottom line I've seen hundreds of vendors "extra medication" range from all prices colors quality... its all about how you push it... and how good your herb really is. I own a medical Marijuana Dispensary I've grown here in Cali and Im a damn hard working kid.. yeah you work hard you gonna get where you wanna be.
There is a lot of negativity in some of the post ive read but its really up to you to make it... I only been in california for a year and 2 months.. I feel i've done great... and I haven't seen shit yet..
Work hard and you'll make it, connections and friends will come along the way.
I drove to california by myself.. rented a U-haul and took off! all the way from Florida and im happy i made the move.
Good for you. Here's your brownie button. Sorry but you've done nothing that a whole slew of us hereabouts haven't done.
" A lot of negativity" , damn straight there is and your avoidance of the specific issues and attempt to spindoctor it off to avoid said issues speaks volumes.
Sorry but there is *ZERO* excuse for certain crap on *both* sides , but the fact is that even a goodly portion of those issues originating with the grower are due to greedy dispensary owners , sure a producer shouldn't be be bringing moldy bud to market , bet then the dispensaries shouldn't be lowballing that same bud , buying it and reselling it.
Then we could address how some dispensaries treat the *good* growers. The folks that they might conceivably *need* down the road after this shakeout is over and all the " stars in their eyes" greedy idiots have shaken out.
I do some stuff with a couple of dispensaries , both of which are run by oldtimers from very pre 215/420 , they know how things used to be done and conduct *business* , they don't throw a front on you , they don't bullshit , they won't buy bad product.......they WILL treat you fairly and keep their word right down to the time etc.
Why? Because they remember what the consequences of not keeping ones word in this thing once were.
Dispensary folks don't have those consequences , so hence a percentage of them will act like jackasses just because they can.
Me , well I just walk on such crap.....dropped a sample at a dispensary in Oakland , they called , agreed to a donation and I drove the miles , get there and suddenly the donation is a hell of a lot less along with " we could consign it for you".........I walked without another word , when I got home there was already a message meeting my price and asking me to come back down.
Unfortunately my answer to them was " Not at any price EVER."
Here's another reason I won't do consignment , y'all start taking a scope to buds purchased from dispensaries sometime and you might be surprised and rather disgusted at what you see. Tumble my bud for a bit of sift and you'd best not try to give it back to me.
I've been at this a long time , I keep up my end and you'll *never* hear me make excuses for some of the CRAP that goes on from the growers end , and quite frankly I'm fed up with hearing all the crap excuses from the dispensaries.
Clean up your own act , 'cause in the last analysis most dispensaries are dead in the water without the good growers.
And really? We were here before you , we'll be here after the short term pirates are long gone.