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What State Should I Move To

p0opstlnksal0t

Active member
Oregon laws look pretty shitty now that I've started peeling them apart. I too am thinking cali is the way to go. From what ive seen you can essentially get med cards that are unlimited. With you a wife and maybe a friend or two's med cards you could have essentially a legal collective grow on your hands if police come knocking. As far as "donating" and getting rid of what you don't smoke yourself... that risk is almost the same wherever you move to.... I've heard plenty of stories of local paid trimmers in cali being able to unload hundreds for you for a little tax incentive...
 

Mukind

Member
I lived in WA for 8 years.. I now have lived in OR for the past year.
I lived in Cali for 5 years.
Visited CO several times .
For growing outdoors Cali. unless you want to live in Eastern OR or Eastern Wa forget about growing outside.
THe PNW people are a special breed. lol. To be frank, these people might drive you fuckin nuts with the their far left liberal mind set. Cali is the coolest, people are friendly , a lot more hip, more culture. Weather is great.. Lots of stuff to do with LA, San Fran...but its outrageously expensive. East Coast, West Coast..very very different type of people. I agree with Kony, you should go visit some places.
As far as Cali, i was just looking at Stockton and modesto to move. They are in the central valley and the cost of living is a lot lower then the rest of Cali.
Good Luck!

I don't mind hippies

I am what you might call an American nationalist socialist, just without all the illogical racism(ask a white nationalist how he defines white, lol). And a more American view on civil liberties.

They may not like my views on foreign policy, but they're not going to ask. And no matter what they're going to be a huge step up from the theists you find in the rest of rural America. Beyond maybe the smell of some of the men

I hadn't considered going so far south as Sacremento. But looking at it's proximity to the airport Stockton is really appealing. And the housing doesn't seem crazy at all. Maybe when I see the prices on nationally available products I'll balk relative to Illinois. There are huge advantages to living in an urban area. Like not having to cook

Thanks for your input, I'll definitely consider the area.
 
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p0opstlnksal0t

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I've looked at sacremento and outlying areas as well. I think 2500 a month could rent out a 3-4k sq ft house with a pool maybe 5 bedrooms. With my wife and myself having med cards I could see 10-20lbs a month. I'm a mechanical engineer out of Texas and could probably get a full time gig out there and grow in a few bedrooms part time. I've seriously thought about doing this the last few months.
 

Mukind

Member
I've looked at sacremento and outlying areas as well. I think 2500 a month could rent out a 3-4k sq ft house with a pool maybe 5 bedrooms. With my wife and myself having med cards I could see 10-20lbs a month. I'm a mechanical engineer out of Texas and could probably get a full time gig out there and grow in a few bedrooms part time. I've seriously thought about doing this the last few months.

10 lbs a month would be a lot of wattage, I'm shooting more for ~3 a month of the fire within the first 6 months. But I'm not a mechanical engineer. And my skills don't allow for my bank to be refilled as easily as yours probably

The only advantage I have is I don't have an SO so I can live in very spartan quarters with no real issues. Don't even have a dog
 

OutdoorDiego

New member
Hmmmm, uh hum.

Central Valley/Sac/Gold Country is my area...

It's affordable and livable. Plus 2hrs either direction and you have beaches or mountains. Urban delights or extreme mountain wilderness (7000ft -14,000).

Unless 2A is a consideration. Welcome to NorCal
 

p0opstlnksal0t

Active member
I'm also thinking about just buying a little bit of a fixer upper with maybe 8+ acres under 350k.... enough land to not have neighbors messing with me with me and my wife having med cards I wonder if 20-30 outdoor plants would raise any flags? Coming from Texas I will have some she'll shock but I'll leave the AR15's 50 bmg's and all the ammo back in texas. I will be happy with just a few shotguns scattered around the house. Can I bring my shotguns from home? Or do I have to do something retarded like transfer it through an ffl in Florida when I come in? Lol
 

SeedsOfFreedom

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If Canada is an option, we certainly get away with growing a lot of trees up here! BC is the best for lax enforcement, east is best for high selling prices. Medical system is easy enough to navigate, and recreational legalization in around the corner.
 

Mukind

Member
Hmmmm, uh hum.

Central Valley/Sac/Gold Country is my area...

It's affordable and livable. Plus 2hrs either direction and you have beaches or mountains. Urban delights or extreme mountain wilderness (7000ft -14,000).

Unless 2A is a consideration. Welcome to NorCal

Sorry I was losing internet connection when I responded to you. Looking back at the post it became disjointed.

Send me a link to you or your affiliates website. I'll take a peek. Hopefully find some basements. (I don't remember the rules, not sure what links are allowed)

From a quick google search 2A is firearms? No big deal, I've always operated without a gun. I have a blade on my hip most of the time but I've never had the need to pull it.

If I'm going to be in my house there are many very lethal alternatives if I wanted to use them.
 

Mukind

Member
If Canada is an option, we certainly get away with growing a lot of trees up here! BC is the best for lax enforcement, east is best for high selling prices. Medical system is easy enough to navigate, and recreational legalization in around the corner.

Assuming your government would let me in. If I got caught wouldn't they deport me?

That would be embarrassing

The legal penalties are pretty humane though, I don't like how they throw around the term "mandatory minimum". But it seems to be as long as you keep it under 200 plants you're only getting 6 months.

And the penalties for moving weight aren't all that different from cali. Certainly much better than most of our states.

I hadn't ever really ever considered Canada...My dad grew up on the border in Minnesota. People just walking across the border for a 4th of july party they had. Getting the shit home is probably doable. But being brown they'll call me a terrorist if I'm moving drugs across international borders
 

SeedsOfFreedom

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Assuming your government would let me in. If I got caught wouldn't they deport me?

That would be embarrassing

The legal penalties are pretty humane though, I don't like how they throw around the term "mandatory minimum". But it seems to be as long as you keep it under 200 plants you're only getting 6 months.

And the penalties for moving weight aren't all that different from cali. Certainly much better than most of our states.

I hadn't ever really ever considered Canada...My dad grew up on the border in Minnesota. People just walking across the border for a 4th of july party they had. Getting the shit home is probably doable. But being brown they'll call me a terrorist if I'm moving drugs across international borders

Mandatory minimums have been struck down by our courts. Judges here have been very lenient with cannabis lately in Canada.

As for your talk of moving things over borders, I don't recommend that, we have lots of dispensaries and such. If you grow here, sell here. Brown or not, the customs people will enforce your US federal law on you, and those laws are not to be trifled with.
 

Mukind

Member
Mandatory minimums have been struck down by our courts. Judges here have been very lenient with cannabis lately in Canada.

As for your talk of moving things over borders, I don't recommend that, we have lots of dispensaries and such. If you grow here, sell here. Brown or not, the customs people will enforce your US federal law on you, and those laws are not to be trifled with.

Same thing could be said about moving cannabis from california to any other state.

No real difference beyond now i'm an INTERNATIONAL trafficker terrorist extraordinaire instead of a stoner from illinois who moved to cali

It's small potatoes and even the most ardent prohibitionists know it now, you'd ahve to be born under a bad star to get the feds knocking on your door for a few pounds of herb
 
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armedoldhippy

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Uruguay, Spain, or Portugal...at least we get an idea of what Trump & his dick-licking lapdog Sessions are going to do. does TRUMP even know what he is going to do? or is he like a cat with an electronic training collar around his neck that goes off at random intervals & makes him leap in various directions?:biggrin:
 

p0opstlnksal0t

Active member
What are the best counties or cities in cali for say 20-30 outdoor plants with a greenhouse for winter grow? I can generally pull 4lbs off of one plant. I see good deals on 10-40 acre home sites I'd love to buy up and get started.
 

matt11

Member
Maine! Come on home bro. We have a HUGE network of cannabis cultivation enthusiast and professionals. Also top notch genetics and strains found nowhere else.
 

igrowone

Well-known member
Veteran
i can see where california does still allow for non-connected growers to come in and grow more legally than other states
essentially the mmj rules have been grandfathered in, as a card holder you can maximize poundage
the down side is your in a business market where everyone else has the same option
you can grow more, but will you make more?
that's not so clear, low risk = low reward
 

Mukind

Member
i can see where california does still allow for non-connected growers to come in and grow more legally than other states
essentially the mmj rules have been grandfathered in, as a card holder you can maximize poundage
the down side is your in a business market where everyone else has the same option
you can grow more, but will you make more?
that's not so clear, low risk = low reward

While I agree with your statement, the risks are very low and the rewards are at worst half of the alternatives. You're underselling it a bit

So you're facing maybe 1/10th the risk from a criminal law perspective. But receiving half the profit at absolute worst.

And that's assuming your alternatives have reasonable laws and a less competitive market. Oregon seems to be about as competitive as cali, while having a much larger risk profile if you're working in teh grey.

Just relieving the stress of felonies having over your head will extend your life and reduce medical bills...Unless you're one of those few blessed souls who can live life without a care until it fucks them. That alone is worth so much
 

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