What is the problem with recreational use?
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whiterasta
Oh I can Dongle. I have received basically the same sort of response whenever I have broached the subject over the last decade.
You will note the only answers do not come from those I am truly asking. In fact the OP of THIS post is pretty clever at cut and paste avoiding my query on his part.
To the poster who is assuming I am "butt hurt" in some way, well, first I do not know how he came to that conclusion unless he is only reading what the OP cut and pastes.
LOL@ this, Like some are drinkers,I am a stoner. This actually makes me feel superior when in the company of drinkers.My buzz is so much more....coherent than theirs.
Oh and ,
Drink- Drinker
Stoned-Stoner
Drunk-alcoholic
too stoned- asleep
WR
I am having a medical redbull right now, lol.
Oh I can Dongle. I have received basically the same sort of response whenever I have broached the subject over the last decade.
You will note the only answers do not come from those I am truly asking. In fact the OP of THIS post is pretty clever at cut and paste avoiding my query on his part.
To the poster who is assuming I am "butt hurt" in some way, well, first I do not know how he came to that conclusion unless he is only reading what the OP cut and pastes.
LOL@ this, Like some are drinkers,I am a stoner. This actually makes me feel superior when in the company of drinkers.My buzz is so much more....coherent than theirs.
Oh and ,
Drink- Drinker
Stoned-Stoner
Drunk-alcoholic
too stoned- asleep
WR
Please, show us all where a poster implied YOU were "butt hurt." [edit, I found it "hissy"]
Regarding your query; what do you not understand about what I posted previously?????? Following for you to read again.
Get it yet?
Have you considered that the ones you seek may not be here. I have been targeted as one by your speculation of inference at first and then quickly turned to directly.
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dongle69
This is weird.
Stoners aren't usually this uptight.
Stoners aren't usually this uptight.
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whiterasta
Having Bull something anyway
Let's just look at you C&P skilz
My post
Cut and edited to read like this with some cute emotions childishly flipping me off.
Yeah right I am takin' this asshole seriously.
At one time I would have used this poor little rich boy as a speed bag( ask Sportz). But any more fuck'em. Not worth the time.
WR
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Mr-B
This is my opinion, please don't hate! lol.
prop 215 was a ballot, the people voted for what they thought was medical marijuana for HIV and deathly ill patients right? Right.
When I got my rec (yea, I got cancer so don't talk shit) there were about 35 other peeps in the same doctors office.
None of them looked sick, in fact I would bet my life most weren't.
While I was filling out the paper work listing all my medical problems and so forth, I was listening to all these clowns laughing about putting foot fungus and stupid bullshit for the reasons they needed to get a script.
I felt like dirt being there. Really, it made me feel like trash being in the same room with these POS. Before being diagnosed, I hadn't smoked in 15 years. A few friends smoke but I gave it up years before.
I always looked at pot like the low level drug it is. Alcohol is much worse, that's why I don't drink either.
The doctors office, Scale to weigh patients? Nope, Blood pressure check? Nope. Interested in the bag of medicine or 4" thick envelope I brought with my medical records? Nope, Actually seen by a real doctor? Nope!
Keep in mind, this docs office was listed on the Cal norml site as one of the best. After everyone was escorted into a room one by one and asked a few different meaningless questions by what i assume was a medical assistant, we all gathered in a room next to the doctors office where we would actually be seen by the doctor... All of us at one time! WTF is that?
OK, the doc finally comes in with everyone's paperwork (script) and gives a little 5 minute speech about using pot and growing it. That was it. we were all legal to buy from the clubs.
I could give a shit who uses pot. I think it should be legal for anyone over 18. Just like buying cigarettes. However, when a law is passed for medical use and every dick head in the state is allowed to get a script from the jokers doctors then it makes the whole law and the use of medical pot a scam.
So, when California retracts the law and no longer allows medical use, all of those people who faked their medical conditions to get a script are to blame.
If you think it should be legal for anyone then I say go fight for your rights! those people who actually benefit from the use of MMJ will be the real losers.
I'm with you all, lets legalize pot for everyone and do it very soon. because at the rate the co-op's are opening and scrips are being handed out my feeling is something is gonna break.
let the flaming begin,
B
prop 215 was a ballot, the people voted for what they thought was medical marijuana for HIV and deathly ill patients right? Right.
When I got my rec (yea, I got cancer so don't talk shit) there were about 35 other peeps in the same doctors office.
None of them looked sick, in fact I would bet my life most weren't.
While I was filling out the paper work listing all my medical problems and so forth, I was listening to all these clowns laughing about putting foot fungus and stupid bullshit for the reasons they needed to get a script.
I felt like dirt being there. Really, it made me feel like trash being in the same room with these POS. Before being diagnosed, I hadn't smoked in 15 years. A few friends smoke but I gave it up years before.
I always looked at pot like the low level drug it is. Alcohol is much worse, that's why I don't drink either.
The doctors office, Scale to weigh patients? Nope, Blood pressure check? Nope. Interested in the bag of medicine or 4" thick envelope I brought with my medical records? Nope, Actually seen by a real doctor? Nope!
Keep in mind, this docs office was listed on the Cal norml site as one of the best. After everyone was escorted into a room one by one and asked a few different meaningless questions by what i assume was a medical assistant, we all gathered in a room next to the doctors office where we would actually be seen by the doctor... All of us at one time! WTF is that?
OK, the doc finally comes in with everyone's paperwork (script) and gives a little 5 minute speech about using pot and growing it. That was it. we were all legal to buy from the clubs.
I could give a shit who uses pot. I think it should be legal for anyone over 18. Just like buying cigarettes. However, when a law is passed for medical use and every dick head in the state is allowed to get a script from the jokers doctors then it makes the whole law and the use of medical pot a scam.
So, when California retracts the law and no longer allows medical use, all of those people who faked their medical conditions to get a script are to blame.
If you think it should be legal for anyone then I say go fight for your rights! those people who actually benefit from the use of MMJ will be the real losers.
I'm with you all, lets legalize pot for everyone and do it very soon. because at the rate the co-op's are opening and scrips are being handed out my feeling is something is gonna break.
let the flaming begin,
B
I'm not uptight. Rather the opposite. I take xanax. I, also, haven't medicated with MMJ in a very long time.
It's all good girl, don't let me ruffle any feathers. It's not intended. I frequent this forum for the shear intellectual exercise of debate. No animosities toward anyone here on my part.
JimBeamKush
Member
It is because they have not used enough of their medicine.
Or they are all drunk.
Why all the labels everyone? I say more power to you with whatever you wanna do. Hell if you wanna smoke 24/7 go for it. Wanna drink? Hell get drunk? I dont care what you are, So dont judge me either!
"Exactly the same as selling pot for a profit, is what's wrong with it"
What the hell is wrong with selling pot for profit? I mean growing it is not free and not everyone has time to grow their own, nor do they want too.
So if you grow some and charge to cover expenses and pay your bills I dont see anything wrong with it.
Dam everyone CHILL out
Or they are all drunk.
Why all the labels everyone? I say more power to you with whatever you wanna do. Hell if you wanna smoke 24/7 go for it. Wanna drink? Hell get drunk? I dont care what you are, So dont judge me either!
"Exactly the same as selling pot for a profit, is what's wrong with it"
What the hell is wrong with selling pot for profit? I mean growing it is not free and not everyone has time to grow their own, nor do they want too.
So if you grow some and charge to cover expenses and pay your bills I dont see anything wrong with it.
Dam everyone CHILL out
Having Bull something anyway
Let's just look at you C&P skilz
My post
Cut and edited to read like this with some cute emotions childishly flipping me off.
Yeah right I am takin' this asshole seriously.
At one time I would have used this poor little rich boy as a speed bag( ask Sportz). But any more fuck'em. Not worth the time.
WR
Let me help you out here. You have apparently mis-interpreted my post and let's show what you posted prior, shall we?
And the scared rabbit runs from the quick brown fox...again.
Then what is it that gives off that impression?
Also, you are mixing in ideological views into your points (argument). I'm not going there. I know how to separate them.
The little guy is hiding and the other little guy is saying no way. It is not the middle finger. Look at the smilies. It was in response to your sarcasm of the scared rabbit. I have not resorted to immaturity. Yet, you like sarcasm. Nearly the same boat. Get it?
You do realize the only way to overturn 215 is to put it on the ballot, right?
Absolute nonsense. There's no way to limit access to sick people under the current laws and with the Feds being so intransigent. Tell me, do you think it better that 9 healthy potheads 'get over' on the system so that 1 truly sick person can have safe, legal access? I try to keep my eyes on what's important. Remember, those skater punks you see laughing about their cards will just go down the street if you take their cards away. The truly worthy that you seem to think are affronted by the presence of those with no need may well be too sick to put forth the needed effort. Perhaps you have some way of tweaking Prop 215 so that it limits the access of those who aren't sick?
By the way, if I were in the waiting room that day I would have been one you would have sworn is healthy. My fused neck vertebrae require an x-ray to be observed. Though I admit I felt I needed a shower after visiting the last time to get my rec re-upped. But all of these things are simply untended consequences of prohibition, and the need to get medicine to those who are in need.
I feel you on that^^^. You are rubbing against the grain as I do, but you are already aware of that.
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whiterasta
Finally some one with a genuine view who can express it!
You have my deepest sympathy for the experience you had obtaining your recomendation. And I think I know something of your fears. But is this the fault of those who seek the rec or the Dr's who are making big bank handing them out? My Dr ( and i am in Or) was offered 12,000 a week writing recs!
When the chickens get out do you blame the chickens or who left the gate open?
As for some thing about to break I would have to say the amount of money being dangled in front of broke cities and states it will be prohibition which breaks. But my reassurances are irrelevant while your fears are and I am not about to discount your opinion when stated so succinctly and clear.I dislike drug scammers also and am very offended when I hear of someone I know getting Pain meds when I know they are doc shoppers. I live with constant severe pain and have the documentation of it and must practically grovel for codiene because of them.
I think I can see that when one is in need for a serious condition that one would become defensive of their remedy in the wake of percieved abusers.
I would like to PM you and discuss this a bit further Where public judgement is not a factor
thank you for your honest and thoughtful response.
WR
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alpinestar
I dont think it should be regarded/regulated as a med any more than tylenol or cough medicine are.
That's ^^^ a pretty good analogy with the whole MMJ scene. The only comment I have is that humans have a choice and the chickens, well they have chicken brains, LOL.
I agreed with the fella and felt him. I have been through similar situations. I myself look healthier than a horse. Over six foot tall, 220, muscular from the gym and tan. People are shocked when I tell them I am on Social Security Disability or when I go to a new doctor and hand them my Medicare card -- usually, only the elderly have Medicare.
this is obviously one of those "get away" threads. the original question is posted and then people "get away" from what the original topic with rants and getting at each other.
but like whiterasta said, everyone is posting and getting at each other, but i have yet to see a response from a med user myself, just people "getting at each other" in a "get away" thread.
IMO (IN MY OPINION) i think that the word stoner was a derogatory term used for the description of the rec user by those who really dont care for cannabis or any of its attributes or claims thereof.
now it can be understood why someone who has a legitimate reason to actually use cannabis for relief or ailments would take offense when being referred to as some one that is just "looking for a reason to smoke cannabis" by giving the reasoning that there are ailments that only cannabis alleviates for them.
although its true that cannabis works better for some people than regular pharmaceutical medications, cannabis also has and always has had recreational purpose and use as well
so i think that med users that get offended by being referred to as stoners shouldn't get angry at actual stoners but they should actually get angry at the people that are referring to them as stoners.
so in short to all med users that get angry at being referred to as a stoner i say: dont get mad at me for being a stoner, get mad at the ones who are calling you stoner and expalin to them that you are not a stoner but an actual med user.
and to be honest, the only idiot in all of this is the person that gets offended at being called a stoner. . . .. are you serious? with all that needs to be done towards legalization, this is something someone actually has time to be angry about? whoever this person is, is obviously not "medicated" enough!!
but like whiterasta said, everyone is posting and getting at each other, but i have yet to see a response from a med user myself, just people "getting at each other" in a "get away" thread.
IMO (IN MY OPINION) i think that the word stoner was a derogatory term used for the description of the rec user by those who really dont care for cannabis or any of its attributes or claims thereof.
now it can be understood why someone who has a legitimate reason to actually use cannabis for relief or ailments would take offense when being referred to as some one that is just "looking for a reason to smoke cannabis" by giving the reasoning that there are ailments that only cannabis alleviates for them.
although its true that cannabis works better for some people than regular pharmaceutical medications, cannabis also has and always has had recreational purpose and use as well
so i think that med users that get offended by being referred to as stoners shouldn't get angry at actual stoners but they should actually get angry at the people that are referring to them as stoners.
so in short to all med users that get angry at being referred to as a stoner i say: dont get mad at me for being a stoner, get mad at the ones who are calling you stoner and expalin to them that you are not a stoner but an actual med user.
and to be honest, the only idiot in all of this is the person that gets offended at being called a stoner. . . .. are you serious? with all that needs to be done towards legalization, this is something someone actually has time to be angry about? whoever this person is, is obviously not "medicated" enough!!
I did explain that I did not consider myself a "stoner" and that was all, but it kept going. Water under the bridge now. I don't get angry either. And I do not dislike stoners or recreational users as I have stated and re-posted my posts several times.
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JackTheGrower
I look at it from a point of view that only if the Citizen can grow all they want will sales can be in check.
That alone is what will control Cannabis market correctly in our society.
On The Medical side if the members of the club can draw on pounds in storage ( as we just found out they can ) then this will help bring the cost down ; for example.
On the Legalized for all side if anyone can have cannabis and share freely, like one shares tomatoes they grow, then the focus of control is shifted to those who want to, can and have the skill.. Just like brewing your own beer or wine. And just like wine and beer it must meet standards which in the very least would be no chemicals on it if you want to sell it.
The profit result is what we buy will be safe and the cost reasonable and more than likely the best of the best.
The Medical result will be stability for the members of the club.
So no limits works!
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JackTheGrower
