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top of the heap to third world status in one generation

CosmicGiggle

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In the 70's, lots of hippies were able to live very well off the grid but they financed their trip with welfare which was very easy to get at that time.
 

bigtacofarmer

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I would rather the government pay to feed lazy hippy than them pay for any more destruction.

It is still lame to get hand outs from the system you drop out of.
 

Gry

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In the 70's, lots of hippies were able to live very well off the grid but they financed their trip with welfare which was very easy to get at that time.

That largess has actually increased on a massive scale, it simply goes to corporations now.
Which is the very reason the nature of our country has changed so drastically over the course of our lives.
 

MJPassion

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Pretty hard to find any food that resembles something that comes off a plant in most low income areas. Not quite the same but probably kills more people than guns do when you add it all up.


This plus the lack of educational resources in those neighborhoods fall hand in hand with the ultimate end goal of the folks in charge.


If ya want to know what they want...
read the Georgia Guide Stones...
That shit is no joke!
 
Worldwide:

Approximately 2.6 billion people around the world lack any sanitation whatsoever.

2.1 billion people lack safe drinking water at home.

1.2 billion people lack electricity.

3.5 billion people go without basic, essential health services.

793 million are starving, one million children under the age of five die from malnourishment each year.


America used to be the leader in helping these conditions improve,
as a healthy world population is a happy one.

Perhaps there is more profit in misery than prosperity.
As of fiscal year 2017, foreign aid between the U.S. State Department and USAID totaled $50.1 billion, or just over 1% of the budget.[8]

But at least we bomb them with democracy
 
I believe that if people were taught how to grow their own food, and raise livestock people would be much better off in natural disasters. They would be better off in general. You will need staples such as flour, salt, spices, coffee. Medical services will be needed on occasion.
if we have specialized placed/people who produce food for the rest of the world we dont need to have people trying to grow food in a disaster area, we just need to transport it
"growing your own food" cannot feed the world.
 
Just being the most popular doesn't really mean it's the best. Like who the fuck thinks field hockey is better than ice hokey?? Do they really have professional field hockey? And cricket, I've never seen a cricket game on TV I have seen rugby, still no idea what cricket is. I will admit baseball is pretty stupid though fun to play.

But of course soccer is the most popular sport damn sure not the best sport, but it's great for little kids. Nobody wants to see a 7 year old with a concussion from playing grown ups football. :biggrin:

Shame boxing doesn't make the list I swear it was bigger than soccer at one point.
football isnt about the football,

its about the fighting
 

packerfan79

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if we have specialized placed/people who produce food for the rest of the world we dont need to have people trying to grow food in a disaster area, we just need to transport it
"growing your own food" cannot feed the world.

I am not trying to feed the world. I am worried about keeping me and my family safe and fed. They are called farms, and farmers. Specialized place/people is a strange way to refer it. Have you ever met a farmer?

It's also about being prepared for the disaster. If you grow and can your own food, it's easier to maintain a supply that will last without refrigeration. Fresh food doesn't last long when their is no refrigeration. Look at the mess in Venezuela, people wait all day for a few groceries, obviously it's more than just a matter of getting food to the people.
 

Gry

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] ..."obviously it's more than just a matter of getting food to the people."[/FONT]
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Gry

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Johnny Cash, Hurt



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A little goes a long way...
 

Brother Nature

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Interesting article I came across this morning.

Interesting article I came across this morning.

Interesting article regarding this topic.



Peter Temin: why the middle class is vanishing in the US

Total wealth held last year in the United States was almost $US63 trillion, almost treble the second richest nation - China with $US23 trillion.


Despite that, one highly regarded economist says the US has regressed to "developing nation" status.


Professor Peter Temin applies a well-known economic model to outline a two-track economy - one part educated people with good jobs, and another much larger sector where people are burdened with debt, anxious about their job - if they have one - and poorly paid.


In between is the middle class which, he says, is disappearing.
His latest book The Vanishing Middle Class - Prejudice and Power in a Dual Economy has been named one of the 10 best economics books of 2017.



Prof Temin, the Gray Professor Emeritus of Economics at MIT, Cambridge, Massachusetts says he wrote it before the election of Donald Trump, and the situation in the US is now much graver.
"The Republican Party which seems to go along with everything Donald Trump suggests had a tradition of fiscal responsibility, but they abandoned that to pass a tax cut that will cost the economy close to $US 2 trillion over the next ten years."


The two-track model comes from a theory devised by economist Arthur Lewis in the 1950s to analyse post-colonial countries. Lewis' theory was that in developing nations the capitalist sector grows by taking labour away from subsistence activities and paying low wages.


"In modern terms I call the capitalist sector the FTE (finance, technology and electronics) sector and the other the low wage sector."


Prof Temin's analysis of the US economy is tied closely to race and the politics of racism.


"The FTE sector is not interested in hiring very many of these low-wage people and so it keeps its power by condemning black and brown people to low wages."


Prof Temin says the Jim Crow laws of the south that kept blacks out of civil life still operate today under the guise of mass incarceration.


"We can see that in the racist policies that the government runs, the notion that Trump ran on Making America Great Again is an easy-to-parse motto of Make America White Again."
He says the middle class (or lower middle class) in America has been squeezed for the last 50 years .

Well paid manufacturing work is largely a thing of the past in the US.


"For approximately 50 years people have been losing jobs, that process is a slow process and so what you have today is people who are still doing okay but their children are having trouble finding jobs.


"The American experience that people had since the Second World War - that their children would have a better life than they had - is being negated in this 80 percent of the population."
Social mobility has all but stalled, he says.


"Most people are locked in, there are exceptional people who do well … but for most people, they can't.


He says in the modern world, education is the way out.
"But that is very hard, and the Trump government is trying to destroy the public school system to make it even harder."
Lewis described capitalists in developing nations in the mid-20th century as imperialists, and Prof Temin says the modern Republican Party is acting in a similar fashion.


"Imperialists didn't give a fig about what happened to the natives and this is the same kind of thing. What they [Republicans] like is very little government, they're really kind of anarchists at this point following the dictates of a Nobel prize winning economist James Buchanan who in 1973 wrote an article that said government was corrupt and so you either needed to have anarchy or dictatorship and so that's what these people are pursuing."


He says neglect of the US infrastructure is tearing up the nation's social capital.


"Putting people in jail, neglecting the educational system, having a lack of investment, destroying the social capital which brings people together while you're destroying the human capital by not [funding] the schools that alone will lead us to becoming a poor society, which the people at the top won't notice.


"The FTE sector are trying to reduce support for the American poor, so people in poverty in the US will tend to get poorer rather than getting better. That increases the difficulty of getting out of that situation into a higher and better life."
Professor Peter Temin's book The Vanishing Middle Class - Prejudice and Power in a Dual Economy is published by MIT Press.
 

Gry

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Our media does a stunning job of ignoring, lying about, and concealing this sort of material.
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[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"2 trillion over the next ten years."
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Was told that works out to 1.4 billion a day. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Imagine what that could have done had it been applied to health care or infrastructure.
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If one adds that to what was spent bailing out 'FTE types' after their last meltdown...[/FONT]
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MJPassion

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FTE is banking on mechanization and automation to reduce the number of poor folks they have to hire.


Automation is slowly taking all of the skilled jobs from We the People making us poorer and poorer.
 

bigtacofarmer

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FTE is banking on mechanization and automation to reduce the number of poor folks they have to hire.


Automation is slowly taking all of the skilled jobs from We the People making us poorer and poorer.

Not like we needed skills to be obedient consumers.
 

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