Top House Republican complaining that Obama administration is not fighting drug war h

[DiscoBiscuit]

floating perry masons..

interesting points.. i prefer the chewbacca strategy...

it just doesn't make sense..

Maybe because ol' chewbacci was no prosecutor, nor a defense attorney. He was figment of imagination. Even if Mason was fiction, he wasn't science fiction like the wook.

if you believe the police over the citizenry then a wookie would live on endor

You sound paranoid. I believe in the process. With your reasoning, I could break the law so long as my fellow citizens say it's okay. Where do you draw the line? You can't and you don't. That's why we have a process. Hopefully, the process leans away from prosecution in our mutual interest. Until then, I never said we have to like it.

but a wookie does not live on endor it does not make sense..

Neither does a cartoon analogy, at least in this case.

perry mason fucked the pope in a bathtub!

This is progress, folks..... here we've graduated from cartoons to the bizarre.

 

[dubwise]

I'm with gramps-I don't believe for one minute that either side of the isle really cares about the country. They may start out with ideals of change, but the way I see it, republicants and demoncats get votes and make promises while getting paid and finding loop holes as all of us get screwed.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Never mind the uber rich that buy these loopholes. Resisting personal payday isn't human. Only where we have working systems in place do we avoid bribery, extortion, cronyism, nepotism, patronage, graft, and embezzlement.

I don't care if you put Gandhi himself in a broken system. Eventually, he'll get paid too.

 

[dagnabit]

I believe in the process. With your reasoning, I could break the law so long as my fellow citizens say it's okay. Where do you draw the line? You can't and you don't. That's why we have a process. Hopefully, the process leans away from prosecution in our mutual interest. Until then, I never said we have to like it.

so you dont grow or smoke any illegal substances?

or are these moral applied selectively?

my original point stands..

there is no difference in the two ruling parties.

wookies fucking perry mason aside..

fucking absurd...

 

[prefersativas]

I know this is gonna irritate some folks here, sorry. Apologies in advance.
I don't know much about Mr. Smith, except that on this issue I disagree with him. It appears like some here are anti republican on an irrational level. Yes, as far as I know, repubs are more anti weed than dems. I did recently see where Barbara Boxer is an anti as well.
Politicians are elected to represent the opinions of the people in their congressional districts, not their own personal religious beliefs. Likely that is the problem here. Similar to congress critter Ellis from Michigan. Who is a black muslim and democrat. Google him and see what he believes. The folks that we as a nation need to elect are states rights libertarians. I know that there are some republicans, like Ron Paul who fit the bill. I am not aware of any democrats who are similar. Generally speaking, democrats seem to believe in a one size fits all system. It's why they think that they can MANDATE that you buy health insurance, with what they think is the proper coverage, or pay a fine. Continue your defiance and go to jail.
Some of us can rant about republicans, others will deplore democrats.
We should each of us, every single one, make a serious effort to find out what the critters running for office in YOUR district/state have actually voted for in the past. If no record exists, then vote 'em in. At least you know they aren't corrupted yet.
READ THE CONSTITUTION! You can get a free copy from the heritage foundation. Understand what it says. The Federal government has very limited powers, if we follow the Constitution. There is no Constitutional way that we can have federal laws on weed. Our system was designed so that almost all laws were state laws. If you didn't like the law or taxes ect..in your state, you could move to another. Always try to think locally when you vote. You can be much more effective on a local level, the pool of opposition is so much smaller. Try to affect things in your town/county/state, thats where we can win. California and the Northwest are our best current examples of this.
Thanks for reading my rant, hope I didn't smoke too much first

 

[dagnabit]

I know this is gonna irritate some folks here, sorry. Apologies in advance.
I don't know much about Mr. Smith, except that on this issue I disagree with him. It appears like some here are anti republican on an irrational level. Yes, as far as I know, repubs are more anti weed than dems. I did recently see where Barbara Boxer is an anti as well.
Politicians are elected to represent the opinions of the people in their congressional districts, not their own personal religious beliefs. Likely that is the problem here. Similar to congress critter Ellis from Michigan. Who is a black muslim and democrat. Google him and see what he believes. The folks that we as a nation need to elect are states rights libertarians. I know that there are some republicans, like Ron Paul who fit the bill. I am not aware of any democrats who are similar. Generally speaking, democrats seem to believe in a one size fits all system. It's why they think that they can MANDATE that you buy health insurance, with what they think is the proper coverage, or pay a fine. Continue your defiance and go to jail.
Some of us can rant about republicans, others will deplore democrats.
We should each of us, every single one, make a serious effort to find out what the critters running for office in YOUR district/state have actually voted for in the past. If no record exists, then vote 'em in. At least you know they aren't corrupted yet.
READ THE CONSTITUTION! You can get a free copy from the heritage foundation. Understand what it says. The Federal government has very limited powers, if we follow the Constitution. There is no Constitutional way that we can have federal laws on weed. Our system was designed so that almost all laws were state laws. If you didn't like the law or taxes ect..in your state, you could move to another. Always try to think locally when you vote. You can be much more effective on a local level, the pool of opposition is so much smaller. Try to affect things in your town/county/state, thats where we can win. California and the Northwest are our best current examples of this.
Thanks for reading my rant, hope I didn't smoke too much first

and you can find out 'bout them critters votes here

www.ontheissues.org

 

[prefersativas]

and you can find out 'bout them critters votes here

www.ontheissues.org

Thank you that link. I used it to check my state only, info for state/local was 2006. Still, it shows that I voted correctly.
If your congress person or senator voted for the stimulous/tarp or taking over 2/3rds of the American auto industry, common sense says you need to vote them out. Find the one who believes in limited government, and vote them in.

 

[Haps]

It is simple, all politicians are morally defective ego monsters, who would best serve us by falling on their swords, but they ain't gonna do that. So we have to act.

Do we move forward, or back? Evil men will be in charge either way. Republican'ts, who are the sith, will take us back toward bush, and they had their chance. Simply because the democraps will take us in a different direction, we have better chances. Even if they can only fall forward. And to vote green or independant is pissing in the wind, I have done it many times, all those votes wasted.

Prohibition will only end, nationaly, in the second term of a presidency, just that mathmatical reality shows us our only chance. We can only win freedom by electing democraps at all levels in the next two elections. Then if they do not do the right thing we throw them all out. The republicants had that much time, and failed everything. Our only hope is by completing the ying yang cycle.

H

 

[trichrider]

There is no saving the United States with the federal government acting as enforcers for the corporations. These corporations (and banks) have a firm grip on this countrys testicles and they make policy.

Anyone who runs for office claiming to be ’for the people’ is using you. Anyone running for office claiming they will legalize cannabis, or do any other great humanitarian feat, knows that their success depends on average Joe not knowing what time polls close.

The federal government is just another corporate department, allowed to exceed its budget with the implied requirement of some return come April 15. They make us pay them to fuck us over!

The very thought of less government is itself an oxymoron. When the Dems first had their balanced budgets in the Clinton administration it looked like change was occurring. In hindsight this was a simple parry to set us up for the bush knockdown.

How can anyone figure the current political system will pull us out of this morass?
Yes, R. Paul & Son seem to represent what I would deem a step in the right direction, but we all know how that is working out, and things in Washington are getting weirder.

The pharma is opposed to any cheap effective remedy that they do not control in some way, so they will direct the government to continue the war against cannabis. They own both sides of the street in this game, so they make money coming and going, it is all just a shell game to them.

‘Course this is just how I feel.

 

[StoneElemental]

So tired of the republican and democrat song and dance they mirror each other with slight difference. Tea party....sorry but IMO its a political fad like hannah montana clothes at your local walmart. I kinda like libertarians but hey I think they just hold common sense in the same category as gold or something. Puppets....puppets I say! they get paid behind closed doors by the 10% or less of the country who owns over 50% of the countries wealth... The sooner we stop acting like peons in the infrastructure they corrupted to their own benefit the sooner we as "common" folk stand for what we want. These politicians who are anti-cannabis are either too narcissistic to care or they don't know their asshole from a hole in the ground...can we actually become united states? states sovereign and not iron fisted by the feds?

-S.E.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

so you dont grow or smoke any illegal substances?

or are these moral applied selectively?

Nope. I look out for my better interests just like one of 320 million.

my original point stands..

there is no difference in the two ruling parties.

wookies fucking perry mason aside..

fucking absurd...

Whats absurd is you rolling the op into your topic of choice.

 

[TNJed]

Don't underestimate the stupidity of us Americans...

This.

 

[Neo 420]

Keep this shit on track. Tangent on top of tangent. This thread is about what a particular Republican will do if his party takes control. PERIOD. The man said it publicly. There s no distancing from it. So divided and that's what they want!! Sheeple I call you.. Sheeple......

 

[In~Plain~Site]

Keep this shit on track. Tangent on top of tangent. This thread is about what a particular Republican will do if his party takes control. PERIOD. The man said it publicly. There s no distancing from it. So divided and that's what they want!! Sheeple I call you.. Sheeple......

Still waitin' to hear your take on this 'progress'.

I guess Holder saying the feds wouldn't, and I quote,

"No," he said. "What the president said during the campaign, you'll be surprised to know, will be consistent with what we'll be doing in law enforcement. He was my boss during the campaign. He is formally and technically and by law my boss now. What he said during the campaign is now American policy."

Which was in reference to this:

Attorney General Eric Holder said at a press conference Wednesday that the Justice Department will no longer raid medical marijuana clubs that are established legally under state law. His declaration is a fulfillment of a campaign promise by President Barack Obama, and marks a major shift from the previous administration.

I guess that was just a figment, and coincidentally is more on-topic than anything you've posted in this thread.

Which I'm assuming was a misguided attempt by the OP to paint one party as some how more favorable than another on MMJ.

You'd be better served blowing smoke up your own ass on that one.

 

[SpasticGramps]

Personally, I'm no lover of politics but the idea of good government is everybody's right to envision.

You're right. I was just pissed and venting about the way I see the political landscape about to change. I was big on going to the Tea Parties trying hunt out people with pre-WWI conservative classically liberal ideas. You may find one, but most spout out their programmed narrative of hating Islam, waging war, and stopping the socialist.

I would sit there and think to myself "this is what Nazi Germany must have felt like in the 1930's". Calling it socialism when it's fascism and fighting the invisible boogie man to feed the monster MIC. They sit there and go and on about small government yet beg for a huge military. They beg for their demise. Half of them can't even spell philosophical paradox.

The grass roots was a nice try, but collectively it's a Neo-Con monster. If these people come to power, which they inevitably are, the drug war and war against our plant is going to get ratcheted up. Lamar is the tip of the iceberg.

You want to end the drug war and the corporatist death grip on this country? Get to the root of the problem IMO, end the Federal Reserve, destroy the corporate monopolies, and break the backs of the banking tyranny. Until then we will remain under siege from narcissists puppets like Lamar because they will be bought and paid for with endless fiat currency.

Will that happen? Not unless there is revolution. It starts by the states revolting against Federal authority. Just so happens our first big chance is coming up this November.

 

[Space Toker]

It is simple, all politicians are morally defective ego monsters, who would best serve us by falling on their swords, but they ain't gonna do that. So we have to act.

Do we move forward, or back? Evil men will be in charge either way. Republican'ts, who are the sith, will take us back toward bush, and they had their chance. Simply because the democraps will take us in a different direction, we have better chances. Even if they can only fall forward. And to vote green or independant is pissing in the wind, I have done it many times, all those votes wasted.

Prohibition will only end, nationaly, in the second term of a presidency, just that mathmatical reality shows us our only chance. We can only win freedom by electing democraps at all levels in the next two elections. Then if they do not do the right thing we throw them all out. The republicants had that much time, and failed everything. Our only hope is by completing the ying yang cycle.

H

HAHAHA
I think you are on to something! Just don't know what yet!
kidding
I agree, the Democrats are the only choice as they occasionally do the right thing on pure accident whereas the other side sets out to screw the common man every chance they get, and oh yeah especially weed users! That anyone would vote for the latter, especially after they dug us into such a big hole that we are still trying to get out of, is beyond ignorance, beyond stupidity, beyond retarded. I don't even have a word for it, it is so dumb!

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Still waitin' to hear your take on this 'progress'.

I guess Holder saying the feds wouldn't, and I quote,

Which was in reference to this:

I guess that was just a figment, and coincidentally is more on-topic than anything you've posted in this thread.

We already dealt with that one.

Which I'm assuming was a misguided attempt by the OP to paint one party as some how more favorable than another on MMJ. You'd be better served blowing smoke up your own ass on that one.

pay attention this time...

"We ought to be enforcing our drug laws, not backing away from them," said Smith,

You never touched on the article, because there's nothing you can say.

 

[In~Plain~Site]

You never touched on the article, because there's nothing you can say.

You're missing the point, Lamar is irrelevant.He's not the one making/enforcing policy on MMJ on a national level.


The POTUS & Head of L.E. are the ones you should be upset with, not some numbskull who has no bearing, and won't have, any bearing on policy making...except in Texas maybe.

You goin' there anytime soon? I'm not and I'd rather have the fed do the things they're SUPPOSE to do(like they said they would) besides squandering my hard-earned dollars on nanny-state programs.

Really not that difficult to follow, unless you're dellusional.

Try to stay in the here and now, along with what was promised.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Lol, I'm not upset with anybody.

 

[Neo 420]

You're missing the point, Lamar is irrelevant.He's not the one making/enforcing policy on MMJ on a national level.

You are missing the point. If the repubs take control, he will have influence on MMJ policy and we all know his position. Now on the current situation, Do you truly believe the MMJ movemgnt has gone backward in the current administration from the former administration? If you do, please explain or just continue to shine with your unsubstantiated bias.

The POTUS & Head of L.E. are the ones you should be upset with, not some numbskull who has no bearing, and won't have, any bearing on policy making...except in Texas maybe.

There are some people so satisfied with the current medical situation in CA that they do not even want prop 19 to pass. Mhhh.. I wonder why???

You goin' there anytime soon? I'm not and I'd rather have the fed do the things they're SUPPOSE to do(like they said they would) besides squandering my hard-earned dollars on nanny-state programs.

Kinda wandering off topic again. Happens a lot with you. This isn't about how the feds squander their budget on "Nanny State" programs.

Really not that difficult to follow, unless you're dellusional.
Try to stay in the here and now, along with what was promised.

What was promised, was delivered on this one... Prove it wrong...