The Not So Solventless Clear Concentrate From Harborside!
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Proof?
http://www.clearconcentrate.org/#!test-results/c1cu7
the NWBA results have residual solvent analysis
the NWBA results have residual solvent analysis
UNREGISTRD
Active member
Ive seen hundreds of tests that say NO residual solvents tested!..
So that means nothing to any of us!!
analogcricket
Member
anyone have pics of these "terpenes" that they are adding to the "clear"??
Ive seen hundreds of tests that say NO residual solvents tested!..
So that means nothing to any of us!!
Right on bro, thanks for the positive convo
Of course you have, we've all seen NTL residual results, thats not the point........you asked for proof, thats proof. How else would you like me to prove that it is consistently and reliably the cleanest and most potent product on market?
Why is everyone so against this process/product. Refining shitty oil into a safe usable product is a great thing for this industry. If you have a 3k-4k pound of food grade oil and spend another 12-15$ per gram having it refined, the high price is quickly justified.
There are copious amounts of cannabinoids being wasted due to the fact that they are either unsafe or unpresentable. The fact that these could be refined into a safe medicinal option is great! The Raw is a great idea, may be overpriced now but that will change. Yes for all the dab connoisseurs this is less than desirable, but think beyond dabbing.
I love how misleading some of these cats were to those of us who actually had the right idea from the jump lol. People are funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBZT73ytRjw&feature=youtu.be
Farmer joe at 8:20 explains how its made and yes, those of us who originally though steam distillation were correct.
Fractional Steam Distillation for the win.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBZT73ytRjw&feature=youtu.be
Farmer joe at 8:20 explains how its made and yes, those of us who originally though steam distillation were correct.
Fractional Steam Distillation for the win.
@ 6:48 he says that (after the steam volatiles have been stripped from BHO) cannabis terpenes are added, not blackberry terpenes. @ 8:10 he says they add blackberry terpenes. Which is it?
Doesn't seem worth the little trouble. The remaining lipids are probably more of a concern than removed butane residue.
HighStateToke
Member
Gotta remember that he's talking about his solventfree, not The Clear's.
the terps added back are "blackberry" profile from cannaroma. The attempts to mimic true cannabis profiles fall short. If product is polished before fractional distillation then lipids are of minimal concern.
Exactly. Gotta remember how much $ rides on these guys misdirecting the masses...if everyone can make it, the price goes way down.
Did someone say that the cannabinoids are fractionally distilled and that there is "polishing"? And if there is no "polishing" and no fractional distillation? He didn't really say that anything other than terpenes and solvents are distilled with the steam. Just boiling enough water with BHO in a still would give a monoterpene and solvent-free product. You could do it on the stove in a pan if you're careful with the heat - are you sure that's not what they're doing?
HighStateToke
Member
Yes but without steam.
HighStateToke
Member
"The NEOS-GR is the result of a partnership between Milestone and the Université d’Avignon et des Pays
de Vaucluse, France, which lead to the grant of the European patent EP 1 955 749 A1.
The NEOS-GR is based on the MHG technology (Microwave Hydrodiff usion and Gravity) a new and green
technique for the extraction of essential oils from diff erent kinds of aromatic plants." -http://www.milestonesci.com/mktg/neosgr.pdf
Microwave Hydrodiffusion and Gravity
I can't find it now..but The Clear tagged an IG picture with "NuClear"
Nuclear. Microwave hydrodiffusion. Hmm. I might be off, but it seems pretty clear to me what the main part of their procedure is. Obviously there are more steps, but "Solvent-Free Microwave Extraction (SFME) Technology" seems to be the basis of The Clear.
de Vaucluse, France, which lead to the grant of the European patent EP 1 955 749 A1.
The NEOS-GR is based on the MHG technology (Microwave Hydrodiff usion and Gravity) a new and green
technique for the extraction of essential oils from diff erent kinds of aromatic plants." -http://www.milestonesci.com/mktg/neosgr.pdf
Microwave Hydrodiffusion and Gravity
I can't find it now..but The Clear tagged an IG picture with "NuClear"
Nuclear. Microwave hydrodiffusion. Hmm. I might be off, but it seems pretty clear to me what the main part of their procedure is. Obviously there are more steps, but "Solvent-Free Microwave Extraction (SFME) Technology" seems to be the basis of The Clear.
They swear it's not. Lol. Riiiight.
They are polishing prior to the proprietary process, fractional distillation of some sort
DeMacho Labs
Member
So are they winterizing food grade bho with ethanol and then fractionally steam distilling the bho so the cannabinoids evaporate then recondense into a receiving flask, thus leaving all the other nasty shit that got through winterization? It seems like if they aren't using a NEOS, it has to be some sort of steam because the final product is decarboxylated and they are heating it to the point of evaporating all the terps away as well. Any thoughts from those who are experimenting?
The main thought is that the boiling point of cannabinoids at 1 mm pressure is above 180(C), and 200-210 should not be passed at any pressure. Their steam will have to be unusually hot and/or under much vacuum.
It's more likely that it's the cannabinoids that are being left behind, or that there is more to their story. It's difficult to wrap my head around this story that the cannabinoids come over with the terpenes in steam, when the one fact that is given is that the terpenes and other volatiles are separated from the cannabinoids by the process.
