ConceptOfSleep said:Yoooo Soulfly! whats up bro?
I havent been around in a while, but Im glad to see you still got these MKs up and runnin... I see you took a little hiatus like I did (Broken hand, didnt flower soon enough, got mites....starting over with clones lol) but Im about to get things up and runnin again myself.
Your grow is looking fantastic my friend...That one suspected male is exactly that man...You may wanna save some of the MK pollen if you can manage to give it just a few hours of sunlight from a window just to get it to drop some pollen. Could make for some good crosses in the future.
Can't wait to see how these develop man!!!
Be Well and Stay Safe
wishbone420 said:nice girls are gettin bigggggggg
HempKat said:Are those fluoros they're under? Looks to me like some are well over two feet and that's really just too tall for fluoros. HID which stands for High Intensity Discharge is what you need because fluoros don't eminate as much energy. They would be considered low intensity discharge. See plant's don't see light the way we do. They bath in the energy that radiates from a light. We rate light in terms of how it impacts our ability to see and this has evolved in what we call lumens which I believe 1 lumen equals the brightness of one candle, so if your light is say about 3000 lumens (roughly what a good 40W fluoro bulb puts out) then that's the same as if you hade 3000 candles burning in the same spot. This ability to see or brightness goes much further then the radient energy from the light that creates it. That radient energy is what the plant needs for growth the plant doesn't care at all about how well it can be seen though. So for us we need to learn to think differently about light that it's the brightness we see as well as the energy (which we feel as heat usually) that eminates from the light source. There is a term for this by the way, it's called PAR which I have no clue what PAR stands for. Problem is it's virtually impossible to know what the par is of a light from the manufacturer. The only real solution for getting that info reliably is to get a light meter that can measure PAR and measure it yourself.
Whatever you call it though, PAR, lumens, etc. it's energy and as such has to conform to the physics of energy which in the case of light the one to understand is known as the inverse squared rule or law. This law states that as the energy moves from the source it's strength will decrease exponentially as the distance from the source increases. What this means is as you move out from the bulb say a foot, the amount of energy at that point is a certain amount less let's us the 3000 lumens and say it's 300 lumens less at a foot which is a 10% loss. At two feet however you lose 4 times the energy which is 1200 lumens or about 40% on top of the 10% for a total loss of 50%. At 3 feet you would lose more energy then you have so you would actually be down to 0% energy radiating from the light. We can see the light beyond that but to the plants that is alien, they don't see.
Here's the thing with a low intensity discharge really you need to think in terms of inches rather then feet and that means if you want to grow with fluoros you need to either surround the plant with fluoros all just and inch or two, maybe three on CFL's because they get hotter then the long straight tubes. That's why people go with the High Intensity Discharge or HID light they have more energy at the start point so they can radiate further before dropping to 0%. In growing jargon we call this penetration, the light's ability to penetrate the canopy and affect lower growth. With a 1000W HID you have about 4 or 5 feet meaning once you plant is taller them that lower growth will do like what you describe is happening to your plants.
Now relating to your question if your plants get taller then the light can handle then it's advisable to try to remove that lower growth because it's not able to gather any energy since none of it is getting down where it is, this makes it a drain to the plant because it uses more energy then it creates. The plant will sense it and start killing it off but that takes time and it's believed by some that the sooner you cut it the sooner that energy can go to other buds. The leaves and all associate with this growth does bring in some energy so you have to develope a feel for what should go and what should stay. In my opinion it's best to try to avoid all that by growing them within your light's range. I prefer to just let the plant handle the killing off of leaves when/if they need to be killed off.
thatguy said:Hey there, dude! How are things?
Plants sure are looking good! Glad to see things have been going well for you and that you have good people like HKhere with you. He helped me a lot over at PG. Real stand-up guy. Killer photography skillz too! You should check his thread out at PG, man.
Anyways, I'm hoping to be done with all the work I've been doing up in my attic for the new grow I'm starting up, and hope to be much more active here soon! And I'll finally finish up my threads.
Also, sorry I never got back to you over at PG. I kind of forgot about my threads for a hot minute, I was so busy with shit.
All the best,
TG
thatguy said:Hey there, dude! How are things?
Plants sure are looking good! Glad to see things have been going well for you and that you have good people like HKhere with you. He helped me a lot over at PG. Real stand-up guy. Killer photography skillz too! You should check his thread out at PG, man.
Anyways, I'm hoping to be done with all the work I've been doing up in my attic for the new grow I'm starting up, and hope to be much more active here soon! And I'll finally finish up my threads.
Also, sorry I never got back to you over at PG. I kind of forgot about my threads for a hot minute, I was so busy with shit.
All the best,
TG
THCforus said:nice work Soulfly, good job w/ the recovery from the beginning, it's lookin' good in there, keep it up
thatguy said:Yeah, it's good to have the free time to sit in front of the computer and peck at the keys. Finally got the new thread up and the old ones finished, too!
Looking good in there, bro! Not long left now, huh?
Hk, the only real pains in the ass are the fact that my sloped ceiling and the railing for my stairway is about 2 1/2 ft from where the ceiling is only 4 ft tall, so it becomes a very tight space very quickly, and the fact that since I have no outside window, my temps go up with the temp outside and the amount of sun on the roof. Like for instance, yesterday the temp went up into the mid 60's and it was really sunny. When I set up my new 250W light and checked after a couple of hours, the temp was in the upper 80's! So I used a couple of extra fans to draw a shitload of the hot air out of there. Thankfully nothing's in flower, so no smell.
And that'll become less of a problem as we get closer to winter.
Anyhow, Soulfly, glad to things are still moving along smoothly! check out the new link in my sig for my new thread!
All the best,
TG
Grow Tech said:Always a joy to see crystals! Forgive me if you mentioned already but how long do you think these ladies will need to flower?
soulfly22583 said:Update - November 19, 2008
Day 54 of flower period
So I am scratching my head. Figured I would turn to you all and find out if you have any advice or ideas of what is causing my questions. The plants are now into the mid 50 day's range and they do not have a very distinguishable odor. When I walk into my op you can smell the plants, but it doesnt have that herb smell that I noticed on my first few grows.
I figure this could be a few things.
A - I could be dealing with a low-odor strain (especially as these are seeds off of hermied plants)
B - The plants are just not producing as much THC as they could be (say if they were not off a hermied plant)
Can you all give me some input or thoughts please? It would seem to ome that the plants should be having a much more distinguishable odor than what they are currently emitting.
The only real mess up I have had lately was missing a mid-week watering that dried the plants out and left almost all of my fan leafs dead. I have since caught up but yet cant help and think that this could have affected the plants. I was looking at the product description in the big book of buds 1 and it says the strain indoors can go 63 -71 days, if by day 65 the odor isnt really there should I maybe take it out longer?
Thanks!!