closed4fishing
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Hey bud. I tried to PM you but not sure if it went through. Can you please PM me if you don't get it? Looking for possible IPM consultation for recently licensed i502 Tier 2 facility.
Root Aphids in 2500 plant LEGAL Washington Grow
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i know your not asking me but here is a lady that may be able to help.
Bug Lady Consulting
http://www.bugladyconsulting.com/
peace
If you indeed have Gnats the easiest way I combat them is using a 2 inch layer of regular Sand on top of the soil medium. The gnats and many other forms of flying insects can't lay their eggs on the sand as it is to dry and hot for them to live on. Hope this helps anyone in any way.
wtf
spraying all this shit
just feed your plants through the leaf with high nutrient dense food.
no wonder were getting super bugs, everyone wants to treat the problem instead of figuring out how to grow crop that CANT have bug/mold/mildew issues
You might have a blah blah blah degree from a babylon university, but if your into spraying cides and chems and shit..you dont know your ass from the hole in the ground...at least when it comes to cannabis
im feelin hella bad for the smokers up there and all over who have to puff bullshit flowers sprayed with hell crap cides.
spraying all this shit
just feed your plants through the leaf with high nutrient dense food.
no wonder were getting super bugs, everyone wants to treat the problem instead of figuring out how to grow crop that CANT have bug/mold/mildew issues
You might have a blah blah blah degree from a babylon university, but if your into spraying cides and chems and shit..you dont know your ass from the hole in the ground...at least when it comes to cannabis
im feelin hella bad for the smokers up there and all over who have to puff bullshit flowers sprayed with hell crap cides.
Bongstar420
Member
Are you saying WA doesn't do pesticide lab analysis?
Here in Oregon, just about any effective pesticide is screened plus a bunch of non-effective stuff as well.
Which is better:
1. No lab work; trust growers to report pesticides honestly and hardly ever test anything
2. Lab work; trust growers to report, but test product anyways throw growers product away when it tests dirty
?????????????????????????
Oregon is #2
Spray what ever you want, it gets screened. You risk your product going into the trash bin if you drop the ball on your pesticide application skills.
If all product isn't screened all the time, we are guaranteed to have spray on the shelf. Same goes for any thing that is testable. Also, allowing untestable claims like "organic" is inviting deceit.
RA spread through a winged phase and also a walker stage sometimes depending on species...or in your recycled media
Good luck "staying medical." Eventually, people won't be willing to jump them hoops for a marginally cheaper high.
Also, ever consider letting the ownership earn their own profits? You let them profit from your value contribution instead
Here in Oregon, just about any effective pesticide is screened plus a bunch of non-effective stuff as well.
Which is better:
1. No lab work; trust growers to report pesticides honestly and hardly ever test anything
2. Lab work; trust growers to report, but test product anyways throw growers product away when it tests dirty
?????????????????????????
Oregon is #2
Spray what ever you want, it gets screened. You risk your product going into the trash bin if you drop the ball on your pesticide application skills.
If all product isn't screened all the time, we are guaranteed to have spray on the shelf. Same goes for any thing that is testable. Also, allowing untestable claims like "organic" is inviting deceit.
RA spread through a winged phase and also a walker stage sometimes depending on species...or in your recycled media
Good luck "staying medical." Eventually, people won't be willing to jump them hoops for a marginally cheaper high.
Also, ever consider letting the ownership earn their own profits? You let them profit from your value contribution instead
Going over this thread one only has to wonder lol ,, Wow first of all 2500 plants or 10 plants one should be aware of issues one of the first investments any one should look at is one of these common sense really its big money and big investment , make dam sure your soil is sterilized or clones are quarantined so no outbreak will happen anything entering or leaving the area is sterilized these are the first things any operation including botianic gardens address we do not even allow smoking anywhere on the property every station has sanitation room where you change or wash your hands
most stations only allow certain staff the rest are not allowed
Only then you can be assure of possible out breaks not happening
Not hard to sterilize soils and re introduce lving organisms
most stations only allow certain staff the rest are not allowed
Only then you can be assure of possible out breaks not happening
Not hard to sterilize soils and re introduce lving organisms
Slipnot.........
Look at the thread date. You re-opened a thread from 2 years ago.
If you meant to...then thats that. If you didnt realize.....well, now you know.
Look at the thread date. You re-opened a thread from 2 years ago.
If you meant to...then thats that. If you didnt realize.....well, now you know.
SirStynkalot
Member
Holy shit raising the dead. But I love me some pesticide talk so I'm goin with it.
No, WA didn't have mandatory pesticide testing back then. It still doesn't. Washington is bass ackwards on their regulations. But I'd suggest you look at which pesticides OR is regulating. I promise you I could find something really dangerous that wasn't on their list. I'm not sure but I don't think DDT is required testing in OR, for instance.
And Slipknot, pesticides are a reality of large scale cultivation. You know what kind of discount is involved in getting dirt wholesale? Or what kind of work is involved in innoculating three pallets of soil per room? Knowing how to apply pesticides properly is a job requirement for anyone running ten lights or more. Period. It's one of the first steps into the big leagues and you either learn it or you use the most toxic shit you can find in a state of panic that twenty grand or more is about to go up in webs.
If you want to figure out how to do it, check out UC Davis's Integrated Pest Management strategies for your targeted pests. It's the standard for all of CA's commercial ag and most of what they say to do is permitted on cannabis. I would recommend starting at level 3 treatment regardless of the pest for cannabis due to the value of the crop, just make sure it's permitted first. Most of their recommendations are super low toxicity since the whole point of the state making that kind of program available is to get farmers to use less toxic shit for the same price and with the same results in order to protect from runoff. Great resource meant to protect CA's water supply.
No, WA didn't have mandatory pesticide testing back then. It still doesn't. Washington is bass ackwards on their regulations. But I'd suggest you look at which pesticides OR is regulating. I promise you I could find something really dangerous that wasn't on their list. I'm not sure but I don't think DDT is required testing in OR, for instance.
And Slipknot, pesticides are a reality of large scale cultivation. You know what kind of discount is involved in getting dirt wholesale? Or what kind of work is involved in innoculating three pallets of soil per room? Knowing how to apply pesticides properly is a job requirement for anyone running ten lights or more. Period. It's one of the first steps into the big leagues and you either learn it or you use the most toxic shit you can find in a state of panic that twenty grand or more is about to go up in webs.
If you want to figure out how to do it, check out UC Davis's Integrated Pest Management strategies for your targeted pests. It's the standard for all of CA's commercial ag and most of what they say to do is permitted on cannabis. I would recommend starting at level 3 treatment regardless of the pest for cannabis due to the value of the crop, just make sure it's permitted first. Most of their recommendations are super low toxicity since the whole point of the state making that kind of program available is to get farmers to use less toxic shit for the same price and with the same results in order to protect from runoff. Great resource meant to protect CA's water supply.
Meanwhile here in the northeast can't even get a reputable lab to test for residual solvents, let alone pesticides.
This thread fascinates me though. I wonder how much residual pesticides I have smoked in my lifetime. Although with growing my own for the last 7 years, have atleast mitigated the problem.
This thread fascinates me though. I wonder how much residual pesticides I have smoked in my lifetime. Although with growing my own for the last 7 years, have atleast mitigated the problem.
SirStynkalot
Member
Steep Hill is opening up in Maryland with their implementation. First lab chain in the country based out of CA and they do a good job. NY and Massachusetts should be good too. Most of the rest are way behind the west from what I understand.
And probably a lot. Most of the easy stuff to get is meant for veggies but you don't smoke lettuce. It gets in you off of cannabis.
And probably a lot. Most of the easy stuff to get is meant for veggies but you don't smoke lettuce. It gets in you off of cannabis.
Bongstar420
Member
Awwww shucks.. Heres a gimmie!
http://www.oregon.gov/oha/mmj/Docum...07-0400-and-0410-exhibit-A-tables-3-and-4.pdf
These are the revised tolerance levels. The first version was all 0.1 ppm. Oregon State made this list not so forth coming to find. The one that pops up first is a list of a bunch of not so effective "organic" stuff.
Also, if you ask me, the solvent tolerances are way too high.
Notice they are all much lower than the food tolerance levels you find in food research. Its because smoking doesn't usually destroy much pesticide and you absorb it much better through your lungs vs intestines.
You should assume your more likely to get some dirty product on the black market. Those growers don't get tested and are less likely to be competent. There was even some news about a sample in our tested dispensaries turning up with Raid in it.
http://www.oregon.gov/oha/mmj/Docum...07-0400-and-0410-exhibit-A-tables-3-and-4.pdf
These are the revised tolerance levels. The first version was all 0.1 ppm. Oregon State made this list not so forth coming to find. The one that pops up first is a list of a bunch of not so effective "organic" stuff.
Also, if you ask me, the solvent tolerances are way too high.
Notice they are all much lower than the food tolerance levels you find in food research. Its because smoking doesn't usually destroy much pesticide and you absorb it much better through your lungs vs intestines.
You should assume your more likely to get some dirty product on the black market. Those growers don't get tested and are less likely to be competent. There was even some news about a sample in our tested dispensaries turning up with Raid in it.
SirStynkalot
Member
Oh yeah, those were from the recent rulemaking, right? I'm reading through OR's rec laws right now. Would you be up for a PM chat about your thoughts on OR?
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