question for sam the skunkman on the original haze

[JohnnyChicago]

as Sam the Skunkman often stated; “Haze makes everything else better”.

I am of another opinion.
For me "almost everything does make the Haze worse"
But it all depends of what you are looking for.


And regarding Nevil's work, I haven't followed everything, but I do think it was just luck that he found the legendary HazeA male.

And using the NL#5 was one of the best choices he made.

Destroyer x Original Haze

 

[kickarse]

Fuck I love this thread, its like days of ya life

well done everybody

 

[Sunshineinabag]

I am of another opinion.
For me "almost everything does make the Haze worse"
But it all depends of what you are looking for.


And regarding Nevil's work, I haven't followed everything, but I do think it was just luck that he found the legendary HazeA male.

And using the NL#5 was one of the best choices he made.

Destroyer x Original HazeView Image View Image

is that a whole plant dried?

 

[JohnnyChicago]

is that a whole plant dried?

Yes, it was just a small test plant, grown indoor and kept root bound in a small pot.

First pic is the same pheno, the other 4 pics is the other pheno, of only 2 seeds that I have tried.


All the people who smoked the Destroyer Haze, did tell me that it wears its name very well, especially pheno #2. The other one had much more clear high.

 

[Raho]

...

Sorta off topic...but...I was sitting here thinking that it would be nice to have a thread here on IC dedicated to all things Nevil Martin Schoenmakers. People could post their grow pics and share their stories with growing his varieties. Maybe @hempy would like to start it? As a caveat, it wouldn't be a place to rubbish his name or anything like that, but it could maybe be a place to share only the good things that he did and all the fine smoke that came out of his creations. You think that'd be a good idea or not, @hempy?

HB.

Great idea HB!
Great descriptions of Nevil's Haze effects too

I agree hempy should make the thread because he is active here on the forum. The person he is suggesting is (I assume) not even a member here now.
Hempy, if you do start the thread, make sure to state your goals and preferences for it right at the beginning. What Hemphrey described is great!

1) This thread was originally created to ask Sam questions about haze and it has morphed into something else, which isn't really fair to Sam or the original point of this thread.

HB.

This thread was started by BigHerb, not Sam.
If anyone's goals or interest in the thread should be respected, it should be BigHerb's I guess.

It has definitely evolved though. Other people have been quite insistent over the years about what this thread should and shouldn't be about. BigHerb doesn't seem too concerned about it but i may be wrong.

As far as Sam's interest here . . .
He's made 89 posts in a 12 year old thread of over 3400. I'd say he was less than active. Maybe he's said all he feels needs saying? I know we have goaded some good info out of him here that he otherwise probably never would have shared.

But . . . he said this last year:

So I don't think we need to worry too much about his preference for how the thread is used.

Still, 100% great idea about a "Nevil's Seeds" thread (or whatever the thread maker wants to call it.)
I just hope people spell his name right

 

[bigherb]

Mad Mac

What a beauty , some of the most slender elegant leaves I’ve ever seen

Great to see you posting , thanks for sharing your experiences and suggestions. It’s great to see and hear from someone with all this first hand

I’m patiently waiting for detailed reports of All your Haze Phenos

Your descriptions of effects excites me much for this new release from Todd


I hope this post turns a new leaf , As suggested I hope we can keep this thread OHaze based


1luvbigherb

 

[Hemphrey Bogart]

This thread was started by BigHerb, not Sam.
If anyone's goals or interest in the thread should be respected, it should be BigHerb's I guess.

It has definitely evolved though. Other people have been quite insistent over the years about what this thread should and shouldn't be about. BigHerb doesn't seem too concerned about it but i may be wrong.

As far as Sam's interest here . . .
He's made 89 posts in a 12 year old thread of over 3400. I'd say he was less than active. Maybe he's said all he feels needs saying? I know we have goaded some good info out of him here that he otherwise probably never would have shared.

But . . . he said this last year:
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So I don't think we need to worry too much about his preference for how the thread is used.

Still, 100% great idea about a "Nevil's Seeds" thread (or whatever the thread maker wants to call it.)
I just hope people spell his name right

Maybe I should have been clearer in my earlier post, but I'm well aware that Biggie started this thread and why. Sorry if I didn't make that obvious.

To be honest, I'm not particularly worried about Biggie or Sam's perference...I'm more concerned about having Nev's info buried in a thread that was originally addressed to Sam and his haze work. Sam and Nev are forever intertwined, but there are others that played a role in helping Nevil do what he did...like NL Greg, The Indian, S. Murphy, Herbie, etc...that are just as important to his legacy...perhaps more so in some ways.

Gotta say I'm glad you agree with having a thread dedicated to Nev, Raho. The only reason I asked this thread's participants what they thought about creating the thread is that I wanted to see how others felt about the idea. No one seems to be against it so far...now we just have to hope Hempy will somehow get the ball rolling in the right direction.

Having all of Nev's info in one place would serve all us well as it would maybe clear up some misconceptions regarding Nevil's life and work. I know I've gotten some things wrong...and it's mostly due to being misinformed/mislead and not thinking objectively about his life and what he did for cannabis in general.

HB.

 

[Elmer Bud]

Great idea HB!
Great descriptions of Nevil's Haze effects too

I agree hempy should make the thread because he is active here on the forum. The person he is suggesting is (I assume) not even a member here now.
Hempy, if you do start the thread, make sure to state your goals and preferences for it right at the beginning. What Hemphrey described is great!



This thread was started by BigHerb, not Sam.
If anyone's goals or interest in the thread should be respected, it should be BigHerb's I guess.

It has definitely evolved though. Other people have been quite insistent over the years about what this thread should and shouldn't be about. BigHerb doesn't seem too concerned about it but i may be wrong.

As far as Sam's interest here . . .
He's made 89 posts in a 12 year old thread of over 3400. I'd say he was less than active. Maybe he's said all he feels needs saying? I know we have goaded some good info out of him here that he otherwise probably never would have shared.

But . . . he said this last year:
View Image

So I don't think we need to worry too much about his preference for how the thread is used.

Still, 100% great idea about a "Nevil's Seeds" thread (or whatever the thread maker wants to call it.)
I just hope people spell his name right

G `day Capo

I think Hempy hosting a thread re Haze would give a very biased view .

Remember it was only a page or two back he reckoned Haze hybrids were like LSD that sent him on a 6 hour roller coaster ride .

I`ve smoked a lot of Haze hybrids . Never felt like LSD ,very rarely lasts 6 hours .

 

[bigherb]

Hb


It’s a great idea to do a Nevil dedication thread , I’ve made similar suggestions in the past .i think it’s important for history and would be better suited for members who are more interested in Haze hybrids and Soo much of strains today that contain the work of Nevil

Hempy would be a great candidate to start the thread

I believe all of Nevils post are still online , I have saved a whole thread worth of his post . I’d be interested in contributing as well. Hopefully direct quotes Of Nevil will help with some of the misinfo still being posted

I’ve asked kindly several times threw out the years to keep this thread About Original Haze and all her history , I’m thankful for all the Haze lovers contributing hybrids or pure . But I think it’s time to get back on track

1luvbigherb

 

[Morphote]

G `day Capo

I think Hempy hosting a thread re Haze would give a very biased view .

Remember it was only a page or two back he reckoned Haze hybrids were like LSD that sent him on a 6 hour roller coaster ride .

I`ve smoked a lot of Haze hybrids . Never felt like LSD ,very rarely lasts 6 hours .

I smoked some C13 in Amsterdam that was exactly like tripping LSD. I was totally out of my mind stupid high. Very disorienting for a seasoned smoker. Later on the same visit to Holland, I shared a pure Amnesia Haze joint with a Cannabis Castle employee who started hearing shit and yelling at people. He had to be escorted out and ended up taking his clothes off, disappearing into the crowd, and missing his shift! His coworkers wanted to see the bud and the joint because they thought I laced it with something. But ... 6 hours would be too much for me. Good to see you posting hempy.

M.

 

[@hempy]

I am of another opinion.
For me "almost everything does make the Haze worse"
But it all depends of what you are looking for.


And regarding Nevil's work, I haven't followed everything, but I do think it was just luck that he found the legendary HazeA male.

And using the NL#5 was one of the best choices he made.

Destroyer x Original Haze

Hi Johnny i posted what Todd has also said along with pictures of the haze plants Todd and Sam selected to make the OHaze Todd will be selling.I would of thought it was useful and of interest to people wanting to buy/order the seed.



Nev used both Haze A but Also Haze C in his work Neville's haze uses Haze C i would not call Neville's work a fluke mate.


NL5 Sk1 HP G13 were all good choices but crossing haze to any good plant would be a good choice.


The Meao Thai and a Mexican/Colombian cross to original haze looks nice again haze being out crossed to bring its magic as Neville and Sam has said to do.

 

[@hempy]

I smoked some C13 in Amsterdam that was exactly like tripping LSD. I was totally out of my mind stupid high. Very disorienting for a seasoned smoker. Later on the same visit to Holland, I shared a pure Amnesia Haze joint with a Cannabis Castle employee who started hearing shit and yelling at people. He had to be escorted out and ended up taking his clothes off, disappearing into the crowd, and missing his shift! His coworkers wanted to see the bud and the joint because they thought I laced it with something. But ... 6 hours would be too much for me. Good to see you posting hempy.

M.

Hiya mate good to see you also i find 3 types of affects from haze hybrids 1/ is a Euphoric 2/ is a Colombian type high 3/ is a trippy high you can also get from a good Thai.


The affect on a good haze hybrid is around 4 hours but have been high for close to 6 selections key and what i like others may not.
I took my first trip in 79 took many more in the 80s so i think i am in a position to know what a trippy high is and you can find that in a haze hybrid i have.


The Thai and some selected Haze hybrids can leave you hung over the next day well they do me but only one solution for that and that to jump back on the horse and go for a ride lol.

 

[herbgreen]

Nevil was more of a breeder than I thought once I read his posts on mr.nice you can tell hes put in some work

It wasnt just cross this to that its more like checking the reverse of this to that and then grow progeny

He seems to have done a lot of work not just a seed broker and collector

Now why only 6 seeds out of a kilo of haze seeds germinate? If not old seeds from way back or exposed to heat who knows?

These are questions and many others Im sure on both sides of the story that dont fit perfectly

Nevil for sure maximized on the few seeds he did have and checked the progeny And he picked the best and made them available worldwide

 

[leet]

Nevs Haze Yums Yums

 

[@hempy]

I dont think me starting a thread on Neville's work would be a good idea as it stands now i find my self defending any thing i post on the subject .There seams to be a set few hell bent on attacking and rubbishing Neville.I will try and see if i can get the person that was with Neville in Amsterdam before the Cannabis Castle days and was with Neville threw all the Haze work and other lines to join and Start a thread.

 

[Guest]

Nevs Haze Yums Yums


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nice, is this from your recent grow.

 

[Elmer Bud]

I smoked some C13 in Amsterdam that was exactly like tripping LSD. I was totally out of my mind stupid high. Very disorienting for a seasoned smoker. Later on the same visit to Holland, I shared a pure Amnesia Haze joint with a Cannabis Castle employee who started hearing shit and yelling at people. He had to be escorted out and ended up taking his clothes off, disappearing into the crowd, and missing his shift! His coworkers wanted to see the bud and the joint because they thought I laced it with something. But ... 6 hours would be too much for me. Good to see you posting hempy.

M.

Dunno what kinda acid you guys are takin , but it can`t be the good stuff if weed is just as strong .

How long was it between smokes when you had this LSD experience from ganja ?
Low tolerance then a fattie might get freaky , but trippin like LSD I find very hard to believe .

 

[Nexus7]

^^^
Perhaps it was laced with LSD or PCP?

You'd have to be pretty naive to think there's is 6 hour trip weed going about and no one bothered to save a cut.

Just saying',

N7

 

[TheForgotten]

I'd love a double-hit of Purple Microdot Haze....

 

[@hempy]

^^^
Perhaps it was laced with LSD or PCP?

You'd have to be pretty naive to think there's is 6 hour trip weed going about and no one bothered to save a cut.

Just saying',

N7

Have you ever taken LSD Nexus the high of LSD builds and build to a peek (Term peeking) comes from LSD can last 24 hours herd it can last up to 3 days from a mico dot.


The high i am talking about or referring to as a trippy high that is like a Trip goes like this.


You smoke it and you feel it build and it continues to build and build into a electric almost chem type high then it levels and you find it backs off a little then it comes at you again.Its like a roller coaster ride and hours later when you think its finally over it comes at you again.Peek settle peek settle if you had ever smoked pure sativas with these electric affects you would understand the similarity in affect.


Only laced weed n hash we ever saw was opinionated Thai and black hash.


I found all 3 types of highs in Haze hybrids not all are strong selection and luck is key so is sourcing good genetics.