FWIW
Mr. Klean is 12 years old and still kicking afaik
Angolese (f) x Meao Thai (m)...F2 seeds by Mustafunk
and grown guerrilla style by me lol...harvested last November...not cured yet 
Pure Thai Sativas
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FWIW
Mr. Klean is 12 years old and still kicking afaik
Angolese (f) x Meao Thai (m)...F2 seeds by Mustafunk
and grown guerrilla style by me lol...harvested last November...not cured yet
Raco,
One again you post pictures of buds that make me drool. That Angola x Mr. Clean looks like the pure Sativa I smoked so much in my youth. I literally can't stop staring at it.
Is the male named Mr. Clean for the high of it's daughters, the aroma, both, or something else?
Thanks,
ThaiBliss
One again you post pictures of buds that make me drool. That Angola x Mr. Clean looks like the pure Sativa I smoked so much in my youth. I literally can't stop staring at it.
Is the male named Mr. Clean for the high of it's daughters, the aroma, both, or something else?
Thanks,
ThaiBliss
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tropicannayeah
Satva wrote
"Destroyer smoke report ~ 17 week phenotype smell in jar is similar to Frankincense Cedar/Pine/Lemon/Sweet Spice/Sage, the smell of the smoke is Sage / Herbal / Pine.
Clear, energetic, cerebral ~ connoisseur high. 9 month of curing. For months during the curing the smell was of Sage/Straw, now the smell - in the jar- is Frankincense ~ Sweet Spice/Cedar/Pine wood/Lemon. This pheno-type is my favorite smoke. That concludes the straight commentary. Now for the smoke report.
I'm floating at bit, as the energy is uplifting, spiraling, and light. Energy is flowing from the upper part of my brain, light energy flowing all around at the level of my eyes. My heart rate and energy increased from the upper chest. The effect is more energetic than euphoric. Euphoria is felt as floating and uplifting - a characteristic of Highland Thai. By contrast - euphoria from Highland Mexicans are more grounded and connected to the earth with good feeling. Thai phenotype is very clear - clearer than Highland Mexican phenotypes
The spiraling energy flow around eye level of the head is psychedelic, The upper part of your brain is active, so the effect is uplifting. The high is clear, in the head. The body effect is contracting and a bit tight. Other than that - first class connoisseur high."
The effects of the high you described so well is exactly the type of high I reach for every time too.
and Chock Dee to all the growers out there with a garden full of Thai girls. I grew nothing but Thais for ten years but haven't grown them for ages so it's great to check out threads like this.
One thing is for sure, Thais are the most challenging of strains to grow, every other strain is easier in every way...but growing Thais can also be rewarding too. If you can grow Thais, you can grow any other strain with ease.
"Destroyer smoke report ~ 17 week phenotype smell in jar is similar to Frankincense Cedar/Pine/Lemon/Sweet Spice/Sage, the smell of the smoke is Sage / Herbal / Pine.
Clear, energetic, cerebral ~ connoisseur high. 9 month of curing. For months during the curing the smell was of Sage/Straw, now the smell - in the jar- is Frankincense ~ Sweet Spice/Cedar/Pine wood/Lemon. This pheno-type is my favorite smoke. That concludes the straight commentary. Now for the smoke report.
I'm floating at bit, as the energy is uplifting, spiraling, and light. Energy is flowing from the upper part of my brain, light energy flowing all around at the level of my eyes. My heart rate and energy increased from the upper chest. The effect is more energetic than euphoric. Euphoria is felt as floating and uplifting - a characteristic of Highland Thai. By contrast - euphoria from Highland Mexicans are more grounded and connected to the earth with good feeling. Thai phenotype is very clear - clearer than Highland Mexican phenotypes
The spiraling energy flow around eye level of the head is psychedelic, The upper part of your brain is active, so the effect is uplifting. The high is clear, in the head. The body effect is contracting and a bit tight. Other than that - first class connoisseur high."
The effects of the high you described so well is exactly the type of high I reach for every time too.
and Chock Dee to all the growers out there with a garden full of Thai girls. I grew nothing but Thais for ten years but haven't grown them for ages so it's great to check out threads like this.
One thing is for sure, Thais are the most challenging of strains to grow, every other strain is easier in every way...but growing Thais can also be rewarding too. If you can grow Thais, you can grow any other strain with ease.
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tropicannayeah
and as wonderful as the highs are from the best examples of Thai strains...sky high, long duration, trippy. etc...the dry sifted resin made from the same buds is a huge step higher. Nothing beats the resin from a gentle first sift of well grown, carefully handled, several months old Thai bud...if the high from the bud gives you a nice almost trippy high, then very clean dry sifted resin from the same bud will be a highlight for sure. The problem is that once you start smoking dry sifted resin, bud from the same plant won't get you very high, the good news is you will breathe better as you will be smoking way less tar.
a huge step higher, from dry sift.
You can grind your best buds, do a rough sift and then vaporize on low medium temperature. The early resins taken at the lowest vaporization temperature are the sweetest / most sativa, stop vaporizing when you get the slightest smell of coffee. When you remove the sifted marijuana the color should be light / medium brown. Taking the early vapors off your best fine grind Thailand buds is fairly close to the effect of fresh dry sifted resin shaken from flower-tops after 3 months of cure.
The longer you vaporize at higher temperatures, the darker the dis-guarded marijuana, the effect of vaporizing becomes closer to smoking. Vaporizing, (compared to smoking) IMO has a cleaner and calmer effect especially at lower vaporization temperatures.
You can grind your best buds, do a rough sift and then vaporize on low medium temperature. The early resins taken at the lowest vaporization temperature are the sweetest / most sativa, stop vaporizing when you get the slightest smell of coffee. When you remove the sifted marijuana the color should be light / medium brown. Taking the early vapors off your best fine grind Thailand buds is fairly close to the effect of fresh dry sifted resin shaken from flower-tops after 3 months of cure.
The longer you vaporize at higher temperatures, the darker the dis-guarded marijuana, the effect of vaporizing becomes closer to smoking. Vaporizing, (compared to smoking) IMO has a cleaner and calmer effect especially at lower vaporization temperatures.
FWIW
Mr. Klean is 12 years old and still kicking afaik
Angolese (f) x Meao Thai (m)...F2 seeds by Mustafunk
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Raco, how long do you typically cure? do you use a set time or do you cure until it tests out to what you're looking for?
Got pictures of that Red Thai?
I was going through Elevatorman's classic Thai stick thread and found these pictures, I hope ojd doesn't mind me posting them here.
Looks like a stereotypical Thai plant to me but I wasn't around in the 60's so how could I know for sure. This is what the original seeds looked like. There were some well made arguments about those sticks actually being from Laos or Cambodia..
I'm sure we've all heard the story of how middle eastern genetics were imported to Thailand in the 70's by cartels. The neighbouring countries are supposedly somewhat less affected by these genetics but is there anything to back this up? Where are these hashplant genetics now? I know there are hybrids grown in Thailand and Cambodia but apart from the obvious modern hybrid plants has anyone observed a trend towards hashplants in Thai strains? Anyone ever see a plant that looked even distantly Pakistani influenced? The whole Myanmar/China thing I think complicates things further..
I'm popping some SE Asian seeds, that's why I ask. Unfortunately none of them Thai but Laos and Cambodia hit close enough I think. I'm trying my luck with some Mekong Hazes, they've got some obvious germination issues. I don't have any fancy stuff like fulvic acid so it has to be very basic.. I manually cracked open some seeds and placed them in warm water 37-40c? The water was boiled earlier to kill any microbial life. I soaked the seeds overnight and kept the temps in the 30-35c range, today the one seed that I had brutally cracked with my teeth was looking swollen and I could actually see the tap root! That might not mean a thing but I'll try to follow the tips I was given and we'll see what comes out of it. It's almost pee-my-pants exciting at this point! 
I'm taking a microbe phobic approach with these, I even soaked the coco in boiling water before transplanting as to kill any fungi that might take an interest in my precious seeds. Any tips are welcome of course.
I was going through Elevatorman's classic Thai stick thread and found these pictures, I hope ojd doesn't mind me posting them here.
Looks like a stereotypical Thai plant to me but I wasn't around in the 60's so how could I know for sure. This is what the original seeds looked like. There were some well made arguments about those sticks actually being from Laos or Cambodia..
I'm sure we've all heard the story of how middle eastern genetics were imported to Thailand in the 70's by cartels. The neighbouring countries are supposedly somewhat less affected by these genetics but is there anything to back this up? Where are these hashplant genetics now? I know there are hybrids grown in Thailand and Cambodia but apart from the obvious modern hybrid plants has anyone observed a trend towards hashplants in Thai strains? Anyone ever see a plant that looked even distantly Pakistani influenced? The whole Myanmar/China thing I think complicates things further..
I'm popping some SE Asian seeds, that's why I ask. Unfortunately none of them Thai
but Laos and Cambodia hit close enough I think. I'm trying my luck with some Mekong Hazes, they've got some obvious germination issues. I don't have any fancy stuff like fulvic acid so it has to be very basic.. I manually cracked open some seeds and placed them in warm water 37-40c? The water was boiled earlier to kill any microbial life. I soaked the seeds overnight and kept the temps in the 30-35c range, today the one seed that I had brutally cracked with my teeth was looking swollen and I could actually see the tap root! That might not mean a thing but I'll try to follow the tips I was given and we'll see what comes out of it. It's almost pee-my-pants exciting at this point! I'm taking a microbe phobic approach with these, I even soaked the coco in boiling water before transplanting as to kill any fungi that might take an interest in my precious seeds. Any tips are welcome of course.
FWIW
Mr. Klean is 12 years old and still kicking afaik
Angolese (f) x Meao Thai (m)...F2 seeds by Mustafunk
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how long do you cure?
Siever
What is your opinion on Greenhouse seeds? I hear so many mixed reviews! Some say they suck, others say they are quite good. I only know that IMHO Franco is an exagerator. Always when they have found some "magic" landrace plantation from which they smoke, he is alwys like: oh my god I'm so fucking stoned, while they smoke every day all day. I did the same for more than 10 years and when I smoked the best weed the Holland coffeshops had to offer, 1 joint could barely made me high/stoned. He just needed just a couple puffs. WTF?
On the other hand, no matter where they go, they always have found the real deal; pure genuine local landrace. I once heard the story of , I think it was Serious Simon (a man who definately gets my thrust), in which he claimed he went to I can't remember, where he did an awfull lot of effort, but went back with empty hands.
Siever
Got pictures of that Red Thai?
I was going through Elevatorman's classic Thai stick thread and found these pictures, I hope ojd doesn't mind me posting them here.
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Looks like a stereotypical Thai plant to me but I wasn't around in the 60's so how could I know for sure. This is what the original seeds looked like. There were some well made arguments about those sticks actually being from Laos or Cambodia..
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I'm sure we've all heard the story of how middle eastern genetics were imported to Thailand in the 70's by cartels. The neighbouring countries are supposedly somewhat less affected by these genetics but is there anything to back this up? Where are these hashplant genetics now? I know there are hybrids grown in Thailand and Cambodia but apart from the obvious modern hybrid plants has anyone observed a trend towards hashplants in Thai strains? Anyone ever see a plant that looked even distantly Pakistani influenced? The whole Myanmar/China thing I think complicates things further..
I'm popping some SE Asian seeds, that's why I ask. Unfortunately none of them Thai
I'm taking a microbe phobic approach with these, I even soaked the coco in boiling water before transplanting as to kill any fungi that might take an interest in my precious seeds. Any tips are welcome of course.
I wouldn't crack the seeds myself if I were you. Just put them in soil/rockwool/whatever & be patient. IMO it's to dangerous to waste seeds that way.
Siever
These old seeds are notorious for not popping, I already wasted 7 seeds by not pre cracking them. According to Ed Borg the last person to succeed with these did just that.
Hi everybody
Siever, excuse me because it is not my business. But I wouldn't buy anything to people who travel around the world giving to the farmers Dutch hybrid seeds with the purpose to destroy the original landrace genetics.
The videos of their travels are very entertaining. But I cannot find any Colombian, Malawi, Indian, Jamaican or Moroccan strain or even hybrids of them in their web. Only fancy feminized Dutch polyhybrids.
About Thai and other SE Asian strains I look for something like this:
Siever, excuse me because it is not my business. But I wouldn't buy anything to people who travel around the world giving to the farmers Dutch hybrid seeds with the purpose to destroy the original landrace genetics.
The videos of their travels are very entertaining. But I cannot find any Colombian, Malawi, Indian, Jamaican or Moroccan strain or even hybrids of them in their web. Only fancy feminized Dutch polyhybrids.
About Thai and other SE Asian strains I look for something like this:
Not only that, they also claim that Mango Biche is the same as limon verde which is a Mexican strain according to what I know; Of course I don't know everything.
About this not being your business; this is a forum in which everybody has the right to share his thoughts and share information.
I'm very happy you showed interest.
Siever
Treating annual seeds with Red light can improve germination rates. Also soaking the seeds in an ammonium nitrate solution can work as well. Utilizing both methods to improve seed germ would be ideal than one or the other.
M
Mullum
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