zaprjaques
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had something similar looking pretty much a year ago, floral, dry, almost a slight bit sour and minty with soft stony effects.
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Potency, what is considered potent weed today?
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CharlesU Farley
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I connected up surfers I knew in Miami with people who worked for this guy, (if you dealt large quantities in NYC, you probably know who he is:sold tons of this in New York 1970's not very pretty but it did stone you
...who was staying at the hotel I worked at and it didn't look nothing like that shit.
It was a very valuable connection that I profited from, even though I never sold a fucking thing. When ever I needed to score, I got it at cost.
Edit: Dequilo, didn't mean to sound like a holier than thou dick about emphasizing that I didn't sell anything, no disrespect towards you whatsoever. Hopefully, you know me well enough by now in this forum that I ain't like that.
I made the decision never to sell anything cuz I didn't want to go to jail. Got hammered into my brain by my old man, "if you can't do the time, don't commit the crime". He was an abusive asshole but he was so correct on that point.
That's why I'm kind of proud of that point, considering how much I was involved and how much knowledge I had of smugglers back in the late '60s early '70s in Miami.
I could have been a very rich man, but just as easily I could have been in jail for 30+ years or deader than a motherfucker. I'm pretty happy where I am now.
Again, no disrespect.
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I would have to jump on this bandwagon as well. Sure some "brickweed" deserved the memory most people have of it but not all of it was bad. Sure, it wasn't as pretty as what most people expect their weed to look like now but a lot of it was pretty decent for what it was. I think a lot of people confuse "brickweed" with what many used to call "dirt weed" and to be fair there was "brickweed" that deserved to be look at as "dirt weed" but people need to remember "brickweed" was just the result of what the cartels did in order to smuggle it into other countries. Back then you didn't have as many of the "Pot Snobs" that are around now. Back then the "Pot Snobs" mostly existed in just California and Hawaii. The rest of us had to deal with a lot of "brickweed" but if your connections were good it wasn't something you dreaded.
If that guy asked you to 'do a hit'...... he wouldn't be handing you a bongI connected up surfers I knew in Miami with people who worked for this guy, (if you dealt large quantities in NYC, you probably know who he is:
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...who was staying at the hotel I worked at and it didn't look nothing like that shit.
It was a very valuable connection that I profited from, even though I never sold a fucking thing. When ever I needed to score, I got it at cost.
Edit: Dequilo, didn't mean to sound like a holier than thou dick about emphasizing that I didn't sell anything, no disrespect towards you whatsoever. Hopefully, you know me well enough by now in this forum that I ain't like that.
I made the decision never to sell anything cuz I didn't want to go to jail. Got hammered into my brain by my old man, "if you can't do the time, don't commit the crime". He was an abusive asshole but he was so correct on that point.
That's why I'm kind of proud of that point, considering how much I was involved and how much knowledge I had of smugglers back in the late '60s early '70s in Miami.
I could have been a very rich man, but just as easily I could have been in jail for 30+ years or deader than a motherfucker. I'm pretty happy where I am now.
Again, no disrespect.
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Here's the archive.org link: https://archive.org/details/howplantsaretrai07burbrich
Same homie, if my library were analog I would need those dope rolling library ladders. All for everyone if anyone needs anything, shoot me a pm. This one is available at the library of congress website for free, so idk if it's pirated or not tbh.I wondered about having links to "borrowed" /pirated books on ICM. I'm like a OG internet pirate and have been _stealing_ highly _overpriced_ software and media since the mid-90s.
Sorry, I wasn't going to pay for a copy of a CSNY tune in mp3 format when I've already paid for the LP, 8-track, and cassette. Fuck a lot of paying for a CD and/or streaming just to hear the _same_ tunes in non-scratchy vinyl format.
I digress. (One of Owsley Stanley's sayings to break up _his_ Wall of Words on thebear.org)
If there's ever any cannabis books that you all can't find, or that are overpriced, or you just plain don't want to pay for, let me know and I can hook you up
Here's the archive.org link: https://archive.org/details/howplantsaretrai07burbrich
I would like to collect antique books but don't have the money
Same. but my vagabond lifestyle prohibits it. I had hundrends when I had a house, but gifted them to a friend when I left the states. I used to scour library discard sales and garage sales.
PoweredByLove
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To me potency is how long the high lasts. That's it. Different weed gets you different kind of high. The important part is will I need to smoke again in 30 minutes or 4 hours?
PoweredByLove
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I'll tell you the secret but don't tell cookie fam...
You ready? Here it comes.
Short flowering plants have a shorter high. Long flowering plants have a longer high. That's why Gelato strains are a 30 minute high and the sativa lasts hours.
56 days is hardly enough time for the plants to develop any meaningful... chemicals.
I am of the opinion those thc numbers are meaningless. Case in point...32% thc weed is a short high whereas you're not gone be smoking too. Many bowls of diesel before you're done.
For me any Chems. Diesels, Skunks, or anything similar in chemotype gets me higher than the fruity, candy varieties do. Anything potent will make my face sweat. I do not pay attention to THC%.
Nextgeneration73
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Would using odor eliminators or air refresherners in any way hinder those developing terpenes and cannabinoids in the plant or would it keep them the same meaning untouched?
I wrote a whole nother article here about the different strain types here in my own country but I erased it because it was just too long....
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Are you talking about like Glades air fresheners that you place in an area and they release aromatic fragrance chemicals? I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't place them in the flower room for the simple fact that in order for you to smell that, it means that not-small amounts of compounds are being released into the air and make contact with your nose. They'll make contact with your buds too, and stick there.
Now this is just stoned spitballing, but these hydrocarbons should be in the general shape as the aromatic hydrocarbons present in ganja just due to the fact that we can smell them. I know nothing about olfactory science mostly so please correct me if this makes no sense. Now as to whether that would cause them to interfere with the processes which produce them in the plant. No idea.
What's your home country? I'd be interesting in reading what you've compiled if you still have it. I love that kinda stuff.
BumSplodgeBrownPants
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Ah man, you just gave me a slight scare...
I saw the picture on that post and it had my email address on it, and I nearly pooped my pants thinking you'd hacked me somehow!
Then it dawned on me, it was a drive link not a picture and I'm signed in.
Ahaaaaaa!Ah man, you just gave me a slight scare...
I saw the picture on that post and it had my email address on it, and I nearly pooped my pants thinking you'd hacked me somehow!
Then it dawned on me, it was a drive link not a picture and I'm signed in.
Budshine
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Top Trumps!! Love a bit of top trumps …currently seeing if Wizard Tree Zoap will trump “The” Candy Rain both cards are colourfulGreat thread and very interesting to consider potency and quality and also our reasons and expectations in consuming the herb.
I supose nowadays potency is mainly thc% cbg cbd on a printout with a pie chart
it's like top trumps
Potency and quality is hard to define as we all partake for different reasons. Maybe one person wants a strong painkiller, another a sleep aid, another something to help workout.
i personally define potency as if it changes my perception markedly and does it in one spliff.
it also has to build nicely and have no limit
i'm impatient so it has to start doing all of this before i finish the spliff
Quality is more the nuances within that potency. Is it good, bad, does it make me more chatty, more philosophical more spiritual or more argumentative, does it give me energy or make me want to lie down?
Nextgeneration73
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I have a thread but where I live it's still under strict laws, with half of the people (both in power, and citizens) all for legalization and the other half conservatives (again older ones in power and older citizens) who do a lot in their power to take down any potheads or used to years back, I'd rather not say the country, but for just one joint it used to be more than several years in horrendous prisons if anyone was caught.... Now CBD products are legal with minimal THC which is a big step forward l... But the conservatives in power (the older ones) still are heavily against the herb because they know that it'll destroy their illegal businesses, meanwhile there are those who just simply believe that it's worse than alcohol and cigarettes who still live in the stone age era, but drink a s**t ton (usually folk who are in their 50's and up and are normally very materialistic people... It's actually really tragic .... Anyways yeah I do have a thread... I sometimes spray but away from the plant and I do hang those things you talked about, with an open window blowing in lots of fresh air and all of them being fruit like or floral smells, some have real essential oils, others I'm not sure.... I don't know what it does to my Killer a5 Haze plant, it's actually my first grow of ganja or even any plant ever.... Even though I worked long long years in gardens before.... This is my first project with actually looking after a living being starting from a seed....
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That really is tragic, one because a group of people perhaps a minority (if you factor in those who've yet to reach voting age) are blocking what a similar size group of people once and who won't be around much longer. Two because there's probably a large portion of them who could beneit from it medicinally. Oh well hopefully in time things will change as it has in mmany other countries.
laszlokovacs
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I dont have half the wealth of experience most of you do but in my eyes its roughly that potency is a function of duration and intensity. And yes these are in many ways subjective.
Who are you concerned with? This post and others suggest a desire to create more uniform standards for cannabis. Totally worthwhile in my opinion but how do you gauge a baseline? Is the user/consumer your average person or your average icmag user? Because for a lot of people in the USA anything beyond the lowest of the low tier weed in a dispensary is gonna be considered potent, maybe even too much so.
I view potency as the extent to which something makes it impossible for me to function high. If I'm constantly telling myself holy shit im high, eyelids getting like lead, vision getting all warm with more saturation of colors that gleen subtly, constant sensations of heavy body, and I'm suspiciously comfortable to the extent thats all I'm noticing, I would say I'm too high to operate normally. Yes these are largely hallmarks of worked modern hybrids and indicas, but that is also what dictates much of the modern recreational markets. So back to my point about your question: Today, potency is dictated by the lowest common denominator smoker/user. In the eyes of the many potency is simply the degree to which a lot of these indica effects are felt.
I know a lot of you preach the gospel of the pure sativa and I understand the appeal. But across all potent weed that I've encountered the common factor I notice is how long and noticeable the feeling in and around my eyes is. Maybe others will know what I mean but under the influence of "high-potency" weed, things just look different, more golden and softer to me. The more I'm constantly aware of this, the higher I find the potency.
Whenever I find stuff thats truly special in my opinion its almost all in my eyes (no pun intended). But again the issue of tolerance can never be discounted. The more you use cannabis the more exacting your criteria. I dont mean to be a downer but youre never going to be able to recreate the effects or intensity of the first few times you smoked or used real potent weed. This site is filled with posts about peoples nostalgia about the weed they smoked 20+ years ago and theyve been chasing that variety ever since. Again no disrespect to those of you who are old enough to be my grandparents and who have forgotten more about growing than I will ever know, but how do you figure potency into this equation? The weed you smoke now is undoubtedly "more potent" however you define it so what does one make of attmepts to reach these same highs that inevitably is asymptotic?
I dont think this post is meant to ask for a specific cut or genetics as an answer to the question. Moreso about qualities that relate to a high. I think the dj short video is pretty great as to personal opinons and how to evaluate flower yourself.
Again, how does potency begin to be quantified and standardized? Are we only concerned about smoking or edibles too. I've been doing sublingual oils exclusively for a little bit now but the quality of high and psychoactivity is vastly different. I'd hesitate to say its worse, but it is the same exact material that produces a different effect so whats real? If you read the threads of people who love chewing on fermented cobs you can hear them discuss a change in effects, but you also see some discussing an adjustment peoriod before they are able to really feel the effects. Im of the opinion that your preffered ROA does a fair amount to shape your perceptions of potency. But I get higher off .25g THC inhaled vs .25g ingested which is not at all normal.
TL;DR: Its subjective, good weed makes my eyes feel funny
Who are you concerned with? This post and others suggest a desire to create more uniform standards for cannabis. Totally worthwhile in my opinion but how do you gauge a baseline? Is the user/consumer your average person or your average icmag user? Because for a lot of people in the USA anything beyond the lowest of the low tier weed in a dispensary is gonna be considered potent, maybe even too much so.
I view potency as the extent to which something makes it impossible for me to function high. If I'm constantly telling myself holy shit im high, eyelids getting like lead, vision getting all warm with more saturation of colors that gleen subtly, constant sensations of heavy body, and I'm suspiciously comfortable to the extent thats all I'm noticing, I would say I'm too high to operate normally. Yes these are largely hallmarks of worked modern hybrids and indicas, but that is also what dictates much of the modern recreational markets. So back to my point about your question: Today, potency is dictated by the lowest common denominator smoker/user. In the eyes of the many potency is simply the degree to which a lot of these indica effects are felt.
I know a lot of you preach the gospel of the pure sativa and I understand the appeal. But across all potent weed that I've encountered the common factor I notice is how long and noticeable the feeling in and around my eyes is. Maybe others will know what I mean but under the influence of "high-potency" weed, things just look different, more golden and softer to me. The more I'm constantly aware of this, the higher I find the potency.
Whenever I find stuff thats truly special in my opinion its almost all in my eyes (no pun intended). But again the issue of tolerance can never be discounted. The more you use cannabis the more exacting your criteria. I dont mean to be a downer but youre never going to be able to recreate the effects or intensity of the first few times you smoked or used real potent weed. This site is filled with posts about peoples nostalgia about the weed they smoked 20+ years ago and theyve been chasing that variety ever since. Again no disrespect to those of you who are old enough to be my grandparents and who have forgotten more about growing than I will ever know, but how do you figure potency into this equation? The weed you smoke now is undoubtedly "more potent" however you define it so what does one make of attmepts to reach these same highs that inevitably is asymptotic?
I dont think this post is meant to ask for a specific cut or genetics as an answer to the question. Moreso about qualities that relate to a high. I think the dj short video is pretty great as to personal opinons and how to evaluate flower yourself.
Again, how does potency begin to be quantified and standardized? Are we only concerned about smoking or edibles too. I've been doing sublingual oils exclusively for a little bit now but the quality of high and psychoactivity is vastly different. I'd hesitate to say its worse, but it is the same exact material that produces a different effect so whats real? If you read the threads of people who love chewing on fermented cobs you can hear them discuss a change in effects, but you also see some discussing an adjustment peoriod before they are able to really feel the effects. Im of the opinion that your preffered ROA does a fair amount to shape your perceptions of potency. But I get higher off .25g THC inhaled vs .25g ingested which is not at all normal.
TL;DR: Its subjective, good weed makes my eyes feel funny
