nice looking flowers!ok here we go for the update: 55 days in.. here are some pics of my NCDG. my ak99 snapped in half at 4 1/2 weeks, it was even tied up but I don't think i tied it the right place. It was a lot of heavy top weight.. thinking it'd be awsome for sog.
All my strains in here go no more than 60 days so I'll be chopping soon. I've been giving them water only for the past 5 days. (no runoff) This NCDG smells soooo sweet and will be a breeze to trim. It was the smalellest plant in the garden and it still looks like it will yield well. With propper veg I think this could be great for vertical.
I've done a run with coco with no runoff and I hold true to the statement that runoff isn't necessary.
However, be aware that with no runoff, there is less room for mistake. I've encountered N toxicity problems but this is due to missing a day of watering and letting it dry a tad bit.
If you're a no runoff kind of guy, always keep it wet! Even one day can be devastating with the salt build up. You can see pics in my gallery of the infamous rams claw leaves.
I noticed this because I ran a grow with runoff, and even if it did dry a bit, the plants would still be hungry. Also, I find feeding every other watering gives the plants exactly enough. And a simple ph water feed between feedings makes them happy.
thats crazy, why would you cull a high yielding high potencey plant just because it needs more water? shit my grom from greyskull needs water more than any strain I have seen and I will be damned if I cull her just because she's thirsty.have run coco w/ no run-off ever being dumped. un-dumped run-off gets wicked up to media in upper bucket, via nylon rope. plant will never be in desire for moisture. no need to create drought, as long as water is delivered to bottom of container, and/or spread in media.
have also ran simple maidrubber tub/tote w/ absolutely no drainage holes. judged watering by weight of tub.
never observed a single day of no watering causing devastating damage. if a plant cannot w/stand a day w/ out water, is eliminated from garden as non-drought-resistant. they should be able to go @ least 3 days, in any system; or not worth having genetics or system.
keeping water available 24/7 is desirable. fail-safe can be wicks, but selecting for genetics that can thrive under adverse conditions is best for any garden method. eliminate all others.
enjoy your garden!
why would inferior genetics be culled? do seed runs periodically, so have many cultivars to select from. many variations, lines, etc. actually enjoy variation; but have p1+f1 so no issue re-getting pheno(s).thats crazy, why would you cull a high yielding high potencey plant just because it needs more water? shit my grom from greyskull needs water more than any strain I have seen and I will be damned if I cull her just because she's thirsty.
TwinTurboGuy said:Even one day can be devastating with the salt build up.
there's been a couple of times where i couldnt water every day, so the coco dried up a good bit. I did not see any negative signs from the plants when this happened. I resumed watering as normal. I have a couple of strains that are also pretty sensitive to nitrogen and they haven't showed any negative signs once, this whole grow.
I've been watering with the h3ad/rez recipe and they have handled it very well all the way through the grow. It handled the kool bloom very well, also. The only thing about doing a no-runoff with coco is that you have to flush longer. say 2 weeks of water only. You also should probably drop the nitrogen after week 4-5 if you dont already, at least in half.
I don't think you should water with water only ever so often either. (like once weekly, etc) Only time i give straight water is at the end when flushing.
They've handled daily waterings with full strength h3ad/rez recipie perfectly fine. No reason it shouldn't work for others that are interested.
My room temp is always a nice 70-80f. If you experience nitrogen toicity from a no run-off grow it's because your plants are too small, your temps are too cool, and/or your nutrients are too strong for a no-runoff grow.
i've been looking around, i cant go hydro b/c my ambient temps are just too high and budget just too tight. so i'm thinking some simple coco setup - and i'm really enjoying this thread with a few others, muchly inspirational. any recommends for teh newbie? [8-10 inch clones 2-5 inches roots 400hps {horti} 175mh]
LOL! So fuckin true.Selective genetics has some benefits. Humans should have tried it long ago. Need some proof? Just stroll thru WalMart.
Selective genetics has some benefits. Humans should have tried it long ago. Need some proof? Just stroll thru WalMart.