From what I've seen you can never change someones views by arguing with them though. We seem to wake up on our own time.
that's for damn sure. but that doesn't mean that others don't benefit from the argument... I am not waiting for this guy to agree with me, I'm waiting for him to say something that actually could be considered an argument for his opinion. I'm even open to what might be right about it... but the guy is 99% wind.
disco: if you agree with me, we'll be accused of being ball gargling leftists involved in a circle jerk. lol. i disagree with you about the classroom. I think that our universities are a cesspool of mainstream thought and corporate/pentagon control of research. Not to mention the disgusting social side of it... I am not saying that there is nothing to be learned, but blanket support of the US academy is not my thing.
I'm into guerrilla learning.