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LMFAO! And maybe I'll pee on my plants? LOL. No MG is not an option. This thread is just based on nutes I own. Not nutes I'm lookin to buy. And MG would still not be on my list.i dont see miracle grow on the list, wtf???
LMFAO! And maybe I'll pee on my plants? LOL. No MG is not an option. This thread is just based on nutes I own. Not nutes I'm lookin to buy. And MG would still not be on my list.i dont see miracle grow on the list, wtf???
I will be going with Ebb & Flow, for the first time on this go. I was thinking of doing 1 girl in DWC, But I'm gonna make this 1 easy! As I said I'm stuck between the FloraNova, and the Cutting Edge Solutions.Depends on the style of grow.
I dont like floranova for aeroponic applications, my vote goes to flora series. (or PBP)
DWC or E&F, Floranova is great. I find it more PH stable than flora series. And has alot of goodies in it like humics and fulvics.
Floranova is easiest. 3 part works good but you have to know what NPK ratio you are going for.
Thanks, I REALLY appreciate that. I started this in hopes that others would find useful info on here, as I am.great thread, this will come in handy for me a bit later!
LMFAO! Figured someone/people wouldn't read my 1st post, explaining what this thread is about. LOL. Still I have to thank u cause ur heart was in the right place. After all, U were trying to help. If your confused read my first post, at the beginning of this thread.House and Garden
You sir I tip my hat off to. Very good point that I will have to keep in mind. This might make me look stupid to some, but that point has not even crossed my mind and it was SO OBVIOUS and I didn't see it, nor had I taken that point into consideration. SO I thank u sir/maam. U brought a good point to the table, and NOW I will have to keep that in mind.I would definitely go with the GH for a reason that no one has mentioned yet, at least directly. Since so many people here have used GH in the same scenario you described you will have a much better resource here for when you run into problems. Chances are, if you posted a thread about coco problems with one of the first two brands you mentioned, there would be very few qualified to reply.
Lucas, Rez, and actually there's one there dude(Head) that's in that mix that is well known for "their" little tuning into ratios method. Quite honestly, I enjoy using some additives. I'm not a believer in spending the least amount of money. I do agree that A LOT/MOST of it has to do with genetics. BUT!!!!!! I also believe u get wat u pay for. So I'll spend a little more on a few additives, but their are put to use, and they do work. I wouldn't just throw my money away. So I probably wont be using the Res' or Lucas' Methods. I'm not ruling them completely out. But just for starters, I will be using (1)Hygrozyme, (2)Bud Candy and/or FloraNectar, (3)Gravity(week 4), and (4)Overdrive(week 6) along with watever recipe I choose. so that probably goes against their ratios, But if I use GH, I will use them as a guideline, pretty much.WHat aerohead said!! Thanks Lucus & Rez for all your findings. Saving $$$ my favorite, not wasting it on additives make me happy
Same here... though I currently am using the FloraNova with excellent results. I'm switching to MaxiBloom the next round for even more simplicity and money savings.#4 without any doubt at all, but go with the 2 part Lucas form... biggest bang for buck IMO
I have wasted thousands of dollars goofing around with fancy nutes and always went back to GH nutes, rapid reliable growth.
Hey someone throw some opinions my way. I wanna do a 50/50 mix of Hydroton/Coco. Anyone have experience with it? Let me know...... WATEVER about it. I already have the Coco(Bio-Bizz), and Hydroton. Keep this in mind. I am wanting to drip(they're in 2 gallon 7.5"x7.5"x9.25" square containers.) for a couple of weeks, till the roots are where I can flood the table. If anyone has experience with this method I am interested in doin, please shed some light on this matter to me. Especially how often should I drip, and what length of a time should I drip for(4 times a day, for 15 minutes?) Any info u can give me on this would be great. Also 1 of my hydro store guys strongly recommended that I cover the top of the coco/containers. Is that also ur recommendation. He should me all this Algae in his res, and said it could have been avoided had he covered his containers. Thanks for ur help.
Hey 311, I have used 60/40 coco/hydroton, in waterfarms, the past 4 grows now. Happy plants in general, with vigorous root growth. I over watered my first grow, and had to cull 5 ladies, due to root and stem issues from over watering. I was watering for 15 mins., 2 times a day, while vegging, and all was well. But I read a few threads with someone saying they started to water more as they got bigger, so I tried and KILLED my little ones.
So, now I just do it twice a day for mybe 10 mins. max. More for res circulation for me when I use the drippers, although I know the airstone in each res does keep things nice and alive down there! Just don't over water and you will never switch back. Hope this gives some insight, 311, good luck on your grow! potluvr1
P.S. I also use GH flora base nutes, using lucas method of just micro and bloom, and I am lucky as I never have to check the ph, and I run 5-6 waterfarms at once, so I used to have to check the ph 1-2 times a day, with my tap water and adding my nutes the ph stays in the 5.6-6.0 all the time now! I tossed my DM Gold and Hesi coco, because like all the experts say on here, IF IT AIN"T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.
First let me start by sayin thnk u, and I'm glad this thread seems to be found useful by many on here. So how many time a day, and how many minutes do u drip for. Just for the beginning, to try to establish roots so I can flood.
Once I start flooding, just do 10 minute flood twice a day? Keep in mind I will have an inch of Hydroton at the bottom of the pot.
Now let me ask u this. I have 2 couplings, before the filter coupling, on my drain fitting. Now keep this in mind, my containers are about 9 1/2" tall, and my drain level is at about 3" right now, should I put another coupling on there, and that would raise the drain level up to 4 1/2" instead? Or is the 3" flood sufficient for a container that tall?
Also how many airstones do u add to ur res, and how big are they? The biggest airstone I have is 15" I think. Would 2 airstones and a 30-60 gallon pump w/ dual outputs suffice? I also have these other airstones I love. They're cheap as hell($1.70ea), they're Fizz something. The airstone looks like a stone. I know they all do for the majority, LOL, but this one is real gritty. But it does wonders in my DWC. Lots of bubbles, makes my water boil heavy with smaller bubbles though. roots love these airstones in DWC. The drawback is they don't have them bigger than 6".
Now if I go with the GH 3 part, I might as well give Cutting Edge Solutions a try. They kind go by a "Lucas Formula" . Lucas' Formula is 0-8-16 right? CES ratio for bloom is 0-8-20, They're also from NoCal so that kinda helps also(IMO). Nutes for growers by growers, ya kno. And they don have much Additives. Here's their recipe for 5 gallons. Another thing is with this company ur not suppose to pH ur nutes. It will pH itself.
p.s. If I do GH I think it will be FloraNova this go around.
Micro: 40 mlBloom: 100 mlGrow: 0 mlPlant Amp: 50 mlUncle John's Blend: 50 mlMag Amped: 25 ml
Now........ I am intrigued to know ur reason to why u tossed ur Dutch Master Gold? Thanks Potlvr. U, just like everyone else on here, have been VERY helpful. Thanks again. 3-11, 3-3-11
So u guys using FloraNova Bloom. What do u guys do when u wanna drop ur (N) in flowering after a few weeks?
I will be going with Ebb & Flow, for the first time on this go. I was thinking of doing 1 girl in DWC, But I'm gonna make this 1 easy! As I said I'm stuck between the FloraNova, and the Cutting Edge Solutions.